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Sparvy
Profile Joined April 2013
785 Posts
May 12 2013 19:49 GMT
#3021
On May 13 2013 04:46 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:40 teapoted wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:33 eieio wrote:
I'd be very surprised if EG could pull out a win from here

I'm not sure what happened to Alliance a few months ago but they're indisputably the best in the west now. I can't believe how consistent they've been.

yeah sick RP from demon there but it's just not enough.
They changed roster.

Yeah I mean they didn't start dominating right after kicking Envy but I suppose that's just cause it took them a bit of time to adapt to the new lineup. Switching Envy for EGM was clearly the right choice.


The loss to mouz at EMS seems to have lit a fire under them as well, they haven't lost a series since. They were at the top of the EU scene since starladder, I think, but up until the last few weeks they at least looked human
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 19:52:13
May 12 2013 19:50 GMT
#3022
On May 13 2013 04:47 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:44 teapoted wrote:
All games are today. bo3 lower bracket final and then bo5 final.


I was about to ask that, but now I have a different question: considering ALL the delays we've been having on stream, are the finals still scheduled for today, or is there a possibility they will be postponed?
They've said they will still do them.

On May 13 2013 04:46 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:40 teapoted wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:33 eieio wrote:
I'd be very surprised if EG could pull out a win from here

I'm not sure what happened to Alliance a few months ago but they're indisputably the best in the west now. I can't believe how consistent they've been.

yeah sick RP from demon there but it's just not enough.
They changed roster.

Yeah I mean they didn't start dominating right after kicking Envy but I suppose that's just cause it took them a bit of time to adapt to the new lineup. Switching Envy for EGM was clearly the right choice.
I don't agree. They did pretty much start dominating right after kicking Envy. Of course they dropped a game here and there more than they do now, but they've maintained like an 80% win-rate ever since.

I remember trying to convince people on here after they played like 5-10 games they were a completely different team but people would have none of it.
Once you Goblak...
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
May 12 2013 19:53 GMT
#3023
That BTS intro with the Clockwerk is awesome.
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
May 12 2013 19:55 GMT
#3024
On May 13 2013 04:50 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:47 Latham wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:44 teapoted wrote:
All games are today. bo3 lower bracket final and then bo5 final.


I was about to ask that, but now I have a different question: considering ALL the delays we've been having on stream, are the finals still scheduled for today, or is there a possibility they will be postponed?
They've said they will still do them.

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:46 eieio wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:40 teapoted wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:33 eieio wrote:
I'd be very surprised if EG could pull out a win from here

I'm not sure what happened to Alliance a few months ago but they're indisputably the best in the west now. I can't believe how consistent they've been.

yeah sick RP from demon there but it's just not enough.
They changed roster.

Yeah I mean they didn't start dominating right after kicking Envy but I suppose that's just cause it took them a bit of time to adapt to the new lineup. Switching Envy for EGM was clearly the right choice.
I don't agree. They did pretty much start dominating right after kicking Envy. Of course they dropped a game here and there more than they do now, but they've maintained like an 80% win-rate ever since.

I remember trying to convince people on here after they played like 5-10 games they were a completely different team but people would have none of it.

It's funny - right when they kicked Envy I was kinda unsure how they'd do. Then they proceeded to do alright, but no real big change. Then after a week or two they just began winning. And winning. They're in my mind without any doubt the best western team right now, and their execution is looking scary - I think they can contend some of the Chinese teams at TI3 if they keep this up.
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Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
May 12 2013 19:56 GMT
#3025
Ursa banned.

LOL
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 19:56:39
May 12 2013 19:56 GMT
#3026
Haha will Na'vi go ursa again? Oh banned nvm
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
May 12 2013 19:57 GMT
#3027
EG are fast to adopt the all-melee-heroes new metagame.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
May 12 2013 19:58 GMT
#3028
On May 13 2013 04:55 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:50 teapoted wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:47 Latham wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:44 teapoted wrote:
All games are today. bo3 lower bracket final and then bo5 final.


I was about to ask that, but now I have a different question: considering ALL the delays we've been having on stream, are the finals still scheduled for today, or is there a possibility they will be postponed?
They've said they will still do them.

On May 13 2013 04:46 eieio wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:40 teapoted wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:33 eieio wrote:
I'd be very surprised if EG could pull out a win from here

I'm not sure what happened to Alliance a few months ago but they're indisputably the best in the west now. I can't believe how consistent they've been.

yeah sick RP from demon there but it's just not enough.
They changed roster.

Yeah I mean they didn't start dominating right after kicking Envy but I suppose that's just cause it took them a bit of time to adapt to the new lineup. Switching Envy for EGM was clearly the right choice.
I don't agree. They did pretty much start dominating right after kicking Envy. Of course they dropped a game here and there more than they do now, but they've maintained like an 80% win-rate ever since.

I remember trying to convince people on here after they played like 5-10 games they were a completely different team but people would have none of it.

It's funny - right when they kicked Envy I was kinda unsure how they'd do. Then they proceeded to do alright, but no real big change. Then after a week or two they just began winning. And winning. They're in my mind without any doubt the best western team right now, and their execution is looking scary - I think they can contend some of the Chinese teams at TI3 if they keep this up.
They've gone through a lot of changes through-out though without really losing their momentum.

Like right at the start they were drafting iG style facerush line-ups. Then they got into all this chen/jugg mid-game pushing stuff. Now they actually feel like a complete team that can pull out just about anything.
Once you Goblak...
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 12 2013 19:59 GMT
#3029
Anyone else feel teams play Nyx on an excessively support-y manner? They usually end up with a really underleveled Nyx that can be easily picked off in the mid-late game
Notfragile
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece713 Posts
May 12 2013 20:00 GMT
#3030
On May 13 2013 04:47 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:39 FakeDeath wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:38 Fatalize wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:37 mordk wrote:
On May 13 2013 04:36 Fatalize wrote:
I dont get why casters act like Luna is a good carry late game, when she's not

She'd do pretty well in this game if it weren't for BM though


If you compare her to PL, Void, PA, Morphling, etc she's way worse


Luna is a good late game carry.

Just can't stand up to Cancer+KotL.

luna is a meh lategame carry, low range, no lategame dps skill, she is a great midgame pusher though


Moon Glaive: Deals a grand total of 70/119/153/194% extra physical damage assuming max bounces per level.

This is a permanent God's Strength, in theory (Of course, cleave on top of God's Strength makes Sven a beast).
But Luna, while still not the hardest of carries, can be really dangerous from the moment she gets a bkb/drums/tranquil. Of course it cannot stand against PL but EG bet on a better midgame that would allow a fairly more farmed luna to carry them.

And that could have happened if they won midgame harder. Void/PA/Morph are a liability early game and even they cannot stand against a PL at equal farm. So both Luna and Gyro, the 2 "chemo heroes" rely on them having at least 5k more net worth than the PL, coming from a really stronger midgame.

(Also the casters underplayed the role of BM-Naix combo, that was shutting Luna down in the mid-game and early late-game. That was the whole purpose, to keep Luna within PL's reach, item wise.)
"The art of war is of vital importance to the state" || MVP.Keen fan since the day he stole my heart with a double 2rax. http://i.imgur.com/A82cl.gif
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
May 12 2013 20:01 GMT
#3031
On May 13 2013 04:59 mordk wrote:
Anyone else feel teams play Nyx on an excessively support-y manner? They usually end up with a really underleveled Nyx that can be easily picked off in the mid-late game

because that's the right way to play him.
setting up ganks for his teammates especially paired with naix. this isn't some pub where nyx needs to solokill.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 20:03:59
May 12 2013 20:02 GMT
#3032
Hmmm.. I don't like the PA pick here, there's a lot of strong disables, and storm can initiate right on top of her
On May 13 2013 05:01 fleeze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 04:59 mordk wrote:
Anyone else feel teams play Nyx on an excessively support-y manner? They usually end up with a really underleveled Nyx that can be easily picked off in the mid-late game

because that's the right way to play him.
setting up ganks for his teammates especially paired with naix. this isn't some pub where nyx needs to solokill.

But in the mid-late game, and underlevelled Nyx can't even gank effectively, sometimes you can't even pull the combo off. With faster levels, mana burn becomes a real threat, in both damage and mana burning potential.
fleeze
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany895 Posts
May 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#3033
On May 13 2013 05:02 mordk wrote:
Hmmm.. I don't like the PA pick here, there's a lot of strong disables, and storm can initiate right on top of her

and then die to bat
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#3034
Not sure how I feel about PA but it's pretty funny to see Puppey Chen, Funn1k Bat, Kuroky Rubick, AND Dendi TA...
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 20:04:33
May 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#3035
On May 13 2013 05:02 mordk wrote:
Hmmm.. I don't like the PA pick here, there's a lot of strong disables, and storm can initiate right on top of her
I don't know if a single impale and storm pull is what I'd classify as a lot of strong disables.

A lot of slows but no bkb disables and PA has blink-strike.
Once you Goblak...
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#3036
I want some EG throw doto please.
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HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
May 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#3037
XBOCT pa, there's something I haven't seen in quite a while. I hope it works!
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mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 20:05:31
May 12 2013 20:04 GMT
#3038
On May 13 2013 05:03 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 05:02 mordk wrote:
Hmmm.. I don't like the PA pick here, there's a lot of strong disables, and storm can initiate right on top of her
I don't know if a single impale and storm pull is what I'd classify as a lot of strong disables.

Paired with naix it should be enough to shut down a PA for a long part of the game, there's bat to help though, and Hand of God too
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 12 2013 20:04 GMT
#3039
giving funn1k bat is not a good idea at all.
Velz
Profile Joined February 2012
Ukraine24 Posts
May 12 2013 20:05 GMT
#3040
nice fb, nice bat
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