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Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
April 15 2013 13:32 GMT
#1161
If Ddos attacks an IP...can't they just reset their router and get a new one? Then not use skype(that is how these people are finding the IP?)
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
April 15 2013 13:32 GMT
#1162
On April 15 2013 22:31 Azurues wrote:
wow by postponing doesn't it mean unfair for EG technically?

EG was behind and down one game already.
Dignitas is ahead and series just started.

Different scenario entirely.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
tekos44
Profile Joined June 2011
France280 Posts
April 15 2013 13:32 GMT
#1163
On April 15 2013 22:31 Wintex wrote:
Valve should hire assassins to eliminate the DDOSers.


Just send Nyx
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
April 15 2013 13:33 GMT
#1164
On April 15 2013 22:29 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:27 hfglgg wrote:
g1-league should consider playing those game at a different time and only show the recordings of them.
at least until valve is back again and can do some magic.

If it's a DDOS issue then valve can't do anything about it really. I hope it doesn't come to replays because they suck !!


pah they just use their rare valve magic wand and darkseers pointy hat and everything is fine again.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 15 2013 13:33 GMT
#1165
On April 15 2013 22:32 tekos44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:31 Wintex wrote:
Valve should hire assassins to eliminate the DDOSers.


Just send Nyx


What if there is more than one dossers? Too long CD on vendetta. :<
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 13:35:11
April 15 2013 13:33 GMT
#1166
On April 15 2013 22:31 Jackle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:27 icystorage wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


braggers are actually getting banned in 4chan right now (since they are claiming they initiated the DDOS)


o_O

guess the hypothesis was right


Yup, one anonymous post on 4Chan proves that there's major betting on DotA2. On top of the endless motives people may have, there is also the possibility it's just trolls. Some people just like to watch the world burn.


nah, I doubt it.

It doesn't prove anything, you're right, but I don't think people will DDOS multiple different teams for no particular reason whatsoever. There has to be a motive behind it IMO.

e: also dunno if you've actually visited D2L or not but there IS item betting for money there. Some people multiaccount to bet lots of items.

NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
April 15 2013 13:34 GMT
#1167
On April 15 2013 22:31 icystorage wrote:
R1CH! protect TL :<

R1CH and TheGunrun must unite to save us all !!!
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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
April 15 2013 13:35 GMT
#1168
On April 15 2013 22:32 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:31 Azurues wrote:
wow by postponing doesn't it mean unfair for EG technically?

EG was behind and down one game already.
Dignitas is ahead and series just started.

Different scenario entirely.


Well, not really. EG didn't get a chance to come back in the game, just like there was no chance to find a decisive winner in this game. If anything, they should get a chance to either reload or remake again if the Dignitas/QPAD match is handled that way.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
April 15 2013 13:35 GMT
#1169
Eh... G-1 might just decide do away with whole western qualifier at this rate.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 13:36:33
April 15 2013 13:35 GMT
#1170
On April 15 2013 22:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:31 Jackle wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:27 icystorage wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


braggers are actually getting banned in 4chan right now (since they are claiming they initiated the DDOS)


o_O

guess the hypothesis was right


Yup, one anonymous post on 4Chan proves that there's major betting on DotA2. On top of the endless motives people may have, there is also the possibility it's just trolls. Some people just like to watch the world burn.


nah, I doubt it.

It doesn't prove anything, you're right, but I don't think people will DDOS multiple different teams for no particular reason whatsoever. There has to be a motive behind it IMO.

e: also dunno if you've actually visited D2L or not but there IS item betting for money there. Some people multiaccount to bet lots of items.

History proves that there's rarely motive for DDoS, it's just kids.
Once you Goblak...
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
April 15 2013 13:36 GMT
#1171
On April 15 2013 22:33 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:32 tekos44 wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:31 Wintex wrote:
Valve should hire assassins to eliminate the DDOSers.


Just send Nyx


What if there is more than one dossers? Too long CD on vendetta. :<


The situation calls for OD ulti. Their int can't be too high.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 13:37:06
April 15 2013 13:36 GMT
#1172
On April 15 2013 22:36 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:33 Grettin wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:32 tekos44 wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:31 Wintex wrote:
Valve should hire assassins to eliminate the DDOSers.


Just send Nyx


What if there is more than one dossers? Too long CD on vendetta. :<


The situation calls for OD ulti. Their int can't be too high.


snap. (True tho!)
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
April 15 2013 13:39 GMT
#1173
On April 15 2013 22:35 teapoted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:31 Jackle wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:27 icystorage wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


braggers are actually getting banned in 4chan right now (since they are claiming they initiated the DDOS)


o_O

guess the hypothesis was right


Yup, one anonymous post on 4Chan proves that there's major betting on DotA2. On top of the endless motives people may have, there is also the possibility it's just trolls. Some people just like to watch the world burn.


nah, I doubt it.

It doesn't prove anything, you're right, but I don't think people will DDOS multiple different teams for no particular reason whatsoever. There has to be a motive behind it IMO.

e: also dunno if you've actually visited D2L or not but there IS item betting for money there. Some people multiaccount to bet lots of items.

History proves that there's rarely motive for DDoS, it's just kids.


I don't think that's true.

You don't see just anyone getting DDOSed randomly, it's usually specific players, for grudge reasons or whatever.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
April 15 2013 13:41 GMT
#1174
On April 15 2013 22:36 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:33 Grettin wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:32 tekos44 wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:31 Wintex wrote:
Valve should hire assassins to eliminate the DDOSers.


Just send Nyx


What if there is more than one dossers? Too long CD on vendetta. :<


The situation calls for OD ulti. Their int can't be too high.

There is always one underestimated person.

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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 13:43:33
April 15 2013 13:42 GMT
#1175
It isn't random. Majority of the time it isn't. Either they hate the team/person, or they have something on the line and simply wants to make sure that they will lose no matter what. So they go after that team/person.

This happens to every esports game, not just DotA 2. It's more prevalent in DotA 2 currently because this is the first time that it happened in the middle of large tournament. G-1 is no joke, it is a privilege to be in it.

Maybe that is why this is happening.
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 13:45:16
April 15 2013 13:43 GMT
#1176
On April 15 2013 22:35 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:32 Unleashing wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:31 Azurues wrote:
wow by postponing doesn't it mean unfair for EG technically?

EG was behind and down one game already.
Dignitas is ahead and series just started.

Different scenario entirely.


Well, not really. EG didn't get a chance to come back in the game, just like there was no chance to find a decisive winner in this game. If anything, they should get a chance to either reload or remake again if the Dignitas/QPAD match is handled that way.


in each case the team with no issues got the better end of the situation, which is fair in my book.

al was ahead by a big margin and got the def win. (eg had issues)
kp was ahead by a big margin and had to play with 4 players (kp had issues)
dignitas was ahead by a small and the game is probably remade (dignitas had issues)

edit:
Eh... G-1 might just decide do away with whole western qualifier at this rate.


well the viewernumbers arent that bad even with all those disconnects
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 13:46:48
April 15 2013 13:46 GMT
#1177
On April 15 2013 22:43 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:35 ketomai wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:32 Unleashing wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:31 Azurues wrote:
wow by postponing doesn't it mean unfair for EG technically?

EG was behind and down one game already.
Dignitas is ahead and series just started.

Different scenario entirely.


Well, not really. EG didn't get a chance to come back in the game, just like there was no chance to find a decisive winner in this game. If anything, they should get a chance to either reload or remake again if the Dignitas/QPAD match is handled that way.


in each case the team with no issues got the better end of the situation, which is fair in my book.

al was ahead by a big margin and got the def win. (eg had issues)
kp was ahead by a big margin and had to play with 4 players (kp had issues)
dignitas was ahead by a small and the game is probably remade (dignitas had issues)

who has issues is completely arbitrary/determined by some random guy on the internet, though. Even fogged had done destiny's anti-ddos shit and he still dropped, right?

It's pretty ridiculous to say the issues are either teams fault, in this case =/

I mean, if fucking ayesee is getting ddos'd, how are you placing any blame on any team? -_-
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
April 15 2013 13:46 GMT
#1178
On April 15 2013 22:43 hfglgg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:35 ketomai wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:32 Unleashing wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:31 Azurues wrote:
wow by postponing doesn't it mean unfair for EG technically?

EG was behind and down one game already.
Dignitas is ahead and series just started.

Different scenario entirely.


Well, not really. EG didn't get a chance to come back in the game, just like there was no chance to find a decisive winner in this game. If anything, they should get a chance to either reload or remake again if the Dignitas/QPAD match is handled that way.


in each case the team with no issues got the better end of the situation, which is fair in my book.

al was ahead by a big margin and got the def win. (eg had issues)
kp was ahead by a big margin and had to play with 4 players (kp had issues)
dignitas was ahead by a small and the game is probably remade (dignitas had issues)


It's been established that the issue has nothing to do with the teams though. The issue has become bigger; it's a league-wide issue. It's in control of "DDoS'ers". It doesn't matter who had the issues anymore; the game is ruined regardless of who gets DDoS'd. So to be completely fair, either dignitas would get the win (which is dumb in context of what's happened the last couple of days; not so dumb sounding back when it was just EG) or they both get to reload/remake (which is fairer, IMO).
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-15 13:48:11
April 15 2013 13:46 GMT
#1179
On April 15 2013 22:46 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:43 hfglgg wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:35 ketomai wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:32 Unleashing wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:31 Azurues wrote:
wow by postponing doesn't it mean unfair for EG technically?

EG was behind and down one game already.
Dignitas is ahead and series just started.

Different scenario entirely.


Well, not really. EG didn't get a chance to come back in the game, just like there was no chance to find a decisive winner in this game. If anything, they should get a chance to either reload or remake again if the Dignitas/QPAD match is handled that way.


in each case the team with no issues got the better end of the situation, which is fair in my book.

al was ahead by a big margin and got the def win. (eg had issues)
kp was ahead by a big margin and had to play with 4 players (kp had issues)
dignitas was ahead by a small and the game is probably remade (dignitas had issues)

who has issues is completely arbitrary/determined by some random guy on the internet, though. Even fogged had done destiny's anti-ddos shit and he still dropped, right?

It's pretty ridiculous to say the issues are either teams fault, in this case =/


You just have to be the underdog duh.

Replays are pretty much the only solution at this point.
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
April 15 2013 13:48 GMT
#1180
On April 15 2013 22:46 SpiZe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2013 22:46 Jehct wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:43 hfglgg wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:35 ketomai wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:32 Unleashing wrote:
On April 15 2013 22:31 Azurues wrote:
wow by postponing doesn't it mean unfair for EG technically?

EG was behind and down one game already.
Dignitas is ahead and series just started.

Different scenario entirely.


Well, not really. EG didn't get a chance to come back in the game, just like there was no chance to find a decisive winner in this game. If anything, they should get a chance to either reload or remake again if the Dignitas/QPAD match is handled that way.


in each case the team with no issues got the better end of the situation, which is fair in my book.

al was ahead by a big margin and got the def win. (eg had issues)
kp was ahead by a big margin and had to play with 4 players (kp had issues)
dignitas was ahead by a small and the game is probably remade (dignitas had issues)

who has issues is completely arbitrary/determined by some random guy on the internet, though. Even fogged had done destiny's anti-ddos shit and he still dropped, right?

It's pretty ridiculous to say the issues are either teams fault, in this case =/


You just have to be the underdog duh.

and god help you if you have an EG tag apparently, regardless of personal reputation. Cheating in games since 1999, amirite? lmfao
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
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