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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 11:29:44
June 25 2013 11:29 GMT
#1141
Tongfu just gave Navi some good stomping.
Play your best
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
June 25 2013 11:29 GMT
#1142
easiest rares of my life :D
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
June 25 2013 11:30 GMT
#1143
Navi is an excellent team
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allen_ami
Profile Joined December 2010
China1392 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 11:32:00
June 25 2013 11:30 GMT
#1144
On June 25 2013 20:28 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Just got home. People were saying shit about TF and 6.78 Magnus, now see what happened.


magnus barely has any impact on the game tbh...

and hao's buy back during teamfight near mid tier 1 still shows his lack of maturity
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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
June 25 2013 11:31 GMT
#1145
I actually expected NaVi to lose 0-2 to TongFu so, I'm really not that surprised.

That tier 1 fight utterly messed them up. I don't like it when Puppey choose line-ups that telegraph what they do. 1 Doom pick-up, hard countered 2 of their heros straight off.

My fanboy wishes Na'Vi is still adjusting, but I know for certain that was just a line-up problem. 1 core vs a 4 core lol. Ouch.
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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 11:44:04
June 25 2013 11:32 GMT
#1146
i usually hate linkens but it seems like it couldve been decent on naga/storm in that game
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
June 25 2013 11:32 GMT
#1147
Purge observing t.t
BuLba
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1585 Posts
June 25 2013 11:32 GMT
#1148
i thought they needed to go drums on naga and force fights with sleep+jakiro ice path early on but they didn't
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 25 2013 11:32 GMT
#1149
Magnus by virtue of existing has an impact on the game.
WriterXiao8~~
allen_ami
Profile Joined December 2010
China1392 Posts
June 25 2013 11:33 GMT
#1150
On June 25 2013 20:32 Kraznaya wrote:
i usually hit linkens but it seems like it couldve been decent on naga/storm in that game


no damage mid game, late game tf crush navi's lineup
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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 25 2013 11:33 GMT
#1151
Has Na'Vi ever split pushed successfully before? I don't remember them doing it a lot and I think it is the go to strategy for this version vs. line ups ie Tongfu's, which are built for 5 man. I also feel that was Alliance's one trump card over all other teams in G-1 - knowing when / how to split push.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 11:35:03
June 25 2013 11:34 GMT
#1152
On June 25 2013 20:33 Azarkon wrote:
Has Na'Vi ever split pushed successfully before? I don't remember them doing it a lot and I think it is the go to strategy for this version vs. line ups ie Tongfu's, which are built for 5 man. I also feel that was Alliance's one trump card over all other teams in G-1 - knowing when / how to split push.

Naga was not meant for splitpushing this game

How are you going to do that when you know Doom and DK both have lothars, carry a gem?

Naga was meant for teamfights to set up Vacuum Wall Ice Path Macropyre

but then XBOCT went full XBOCT.
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Sparvy
Profile Joined April 2013
785 Posts
June 25 2013 11:34 GMT
#1153
Jakiro always waited till after song to drop icepath though, it was like they don't realize that as long as you turn off song while it's up people get stunned. Shocking that they pick the combo and perform it so badly.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 25 2013 11:36 GMT
#1154
On June 25 2013 20:34 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 20:33 Azarkon wrote:
Has Na'Vi ever split pushed successfully before? I don't remember them doing it a lot and I think it is the go to strategy for this version vs. line ups ie Tongfu's, which are built for 5 man. I also feel that was Alliance's one trump card over all other teams in G-1 - knowing when / how to split push.

Naga was not meant for splitpushing this game

How are you going to do that when you know Doom and DK both have lothars, carry a gem?


I know. I was just asking about their other games.

I feel that going 5 man vs. the Chinese is just asking for it.
BuLba
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1585 Posts
June 25 2013 11:37 GMT
#1155
i also felt that lineup was way too dignitas-like
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
June 25 2013 11:38 GMT
#1156
On June 25 2013 20:34 Sparvy wrote:
Jakiro always waited till after song to drop icepath though, it was like they don't realize that as long as you turn off song while it's up people get stunned. Shocking that they pick the combo and perform it so badly.



I think that was a misjudgement actually. Funn1k might have panicked when he got Shadow Posioned so he threw all of his combos with Kuro when Havost was still in the river. Funn1k and Kuro did it good but Havost messed it up by singing during it, pretty much killing half of the combo dmg right away. That was the closest they had to win a team fight when they were very clearly down on farm already.

Teams who now choose Naga, almost always has another hard carry, Gyro especially. NaVi were completely dependent on Naga, when Dendi cannot really do much because he'll get Doomed. And with Dendi unable to do anything at all, Naga cannot kill DK, Gyro, Doom herself after Kuro and Funn1k blows there cooldowns.

They had to straight up kill them in a team fight, or they will get chased down and get killed. That's what happened over and over.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 25 2013 11:38 GMT
#1157
The problem really did come down to the early game. Such a greedy lineup completely unpunished. Not just that but they warded like 3 of chen's camps and they only dewarded 1. Could say it was unfortunate he got a satyr, but again, he only had 1 big camp to work with. Na`vi didn't really make a move on them till doom hit level 6.
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
June 25 2013 11:39 GMT
#1158
Has Navi ever ran the Naga that well? They were great at countering it at TI2 when it was still in favor but I don't really recall any time period where NaVi were consistently running Naga for themselves.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 25 2013 11:40 GMT
#1159
On June 25 2013 20:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:
The problem really did come down to the early game. Such a greedy lineup completely unpunished. Not just that but they warded like 3 of chen's camps and they only dewarded 1. Could say it was unfortunate he got a satyr, but again, he only had 1 big camp to work with. Na`vi didn't really make a move on them till doom hit level 6.

i was laughing at the ridiculous jungle luck that happened that game, especially for doom. ridiculous.
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Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
June 25 2013 11:41 GMT
#1160
On June 25 2013 20:39 wuhan_clan wrote:
Has Navi ever ran the Naga that well? They were great at countering it at TI2 when it was still in favor but I don't really recall any time period where NaVi were consistently running Naga for themselves.



Sort of, but it's the way they run it that's the problem. They usually don't run it the way other teams do. They do this wombo combo style that's TI2 and it's... pretty much hit or miss now a days because teams know how to deal with it.
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