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pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
August 09 2013 01:46 GMT
#5621
Why rotk is going BKB? I mean, probably will not matter, but I think would be better make a more agressive build when you have a spectre on the team.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
August 09 2013 01:46 GMT
#5622
This game is so over for iG... meh. LB still exists, I hope they can win their bo1 way to finals.
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RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:46:54
August 09 2013 01:46 GMT
#5623
On August 09 2013 10:46 Comeh wrote:
Pretty sure DK has this game, unless sick darkseer plays happen.

It probably doesn't matter with empower. A RP steal will be better.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:47:46
August 09 2013 01:47 GMT
#5624
That's one sick Spectre.

I can't see DK losing this.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 09 2013 01:47 GMT
#5625
On August 09 2013 10:44 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:39 ImmortalTofu wrote:
sry, league player. Unless a team was super behind, they would never give up a "baron" (Similar to roshan), for free like that. Why would DK not try to contest that, especially given their teamfight potential that I've seen up til now?


Roshan is arguably a lot less influential then baron.

Baron gives a huge damage and regen boost to the entire team, and combining that with how much damage all heroes on a LoL team tend to do, (mid top ad and often jungle generally have relatively high damage potential) it can often let you win fights you really shouldn't have.

Compare that to dota, where all you get is a single use guardian angel (with a 5s delay on the respawn) and while it can be big, often if the carry is holding the aegis and dies, all his supports can die before he respawns and then he just gets exploded.

Combined with how many heroes are very cooldown limited in dota, (many heroes rely on abilities with 30s+ ulties/skills to be effective) and this Guardian angel isn't even that useful on a lot of heroes.

It gives you an advantage, but it's hardly a situation where you can just start shoving towers and taking fights.

Roshan's value goes up considerably once he spawns with cheese (third death and after) to the point where his influence can't really be ignored.
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
August 09 2013 01:47 GMT
#5626
On August 09 2013 10:46 pedrlz wrote:
Why rotk is going BKB? I mean, probably will not matter, but I think would be better make a more agressive build when you have a spectre on the team.

Why? Long drawn out fights is better when you have a radiance, so staying alive is a bigger priority
I speak fluent sarcasm.
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
August 09 2013 01:47 GMT
#5627
GG....IG are done. They are playing horrendous.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
August 09 2013 01:47 GMT
#5628
On August 09 2013 10:46 739 wrote:
This game is so over for iG... meh. LB still exists, I hope they can win their bo1 way to finals.


Hopefully they manage to rest up, having them drop to vp/zenith just because they're still tired from that game would kind of suck.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 01:48:20
August 09 2013 01:47 GMT
#5629
On August 09 2013 10:46 pedrlz wrote:
Why rotk is going BKB? I mean, probably will not matter, but I think would be better make a more agressive build when you have a spectre on the team.


He can die in one DK stun though. Doesn't need to go aggressive with spec, just has to stay alive to help dish out damage. Extended fights are what favour DK

This game feels a lot like last game. Just this time iG has no way to go full rat dota and DK has far superior late game. Smart drafting by DK really.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 09 2013 01:47 GMT
#5630
Hoo 3% of max health regen per second is huge it's like the old heart iirc.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
August 09 2013 01:47 GMT
#5631
Burning about to get heart then finish off IG.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
August 09 2013 01:48 GMT
#5632
On August 09 2013 10:47 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:44 killerdog wrote:
On August 09 2013 10:39 ImmortalTofu wrote:
sry, league player. Unless a team was super behind, they would never give up a "baron" (Similar to roshan), for free like that. Why would DK not try to contest that, especially given their teamfight potential that I've seen up til now?


Roshan is arguably a lot less influential then baron.

Baron gives a huge damage and regen boost to the entire team, and combining that with how much damage all heroes on a LoL team tend to do, (mid top ad and often jungle generally have relatively high damage potential) it can often let you win fights you really shouldn't have.

Compare that to dota, where all you get is a single use guardian angel (with a 5s delay on the respawn) and while it can be big, often if the carry is holding the aegis and dies, all his supports can die before he respawns and then he just gets exploded.

Combined with how many heroes are very cooldown limited in dota, (many heroes rely on abilities with 30s+ ulties/skills to be effective) and this Guardian angel isn't even that useful on a lot of heroes.

It gives you an advantage, but it's hardly a situation where you can just start shoving towers and taking fights.

Roshan's value goes up considerably once he spawns with cheese (third death and after) to the point where his influence can't really be ignored.

It's not like Rosh is useless (duh) it's just less influential compared to Baron. Think of it like free heart+relic for everyone on your team for a certain amount of time. =D
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
jigga
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1141 Posts
August 09 2013 01:48 GMT
#5633
On August 09 2013 10:46 pedrlz wrote:
Why rotk is going BKB? I mean, probably will not matter, but I think would be better make a more agressive build when you have a spectre on the team.


He needs some survivability item and BKB is cheaper than linkens. If dragon knight stuns him or rubick lifts him then he is dead. BKB makes it so he can dish out tons of dps in the fight without having to worry about his own survivability.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 09 2013 01:48 GMT
#5634
That 3 man RP mid was where it was GG. Can't believe they got caught by something like that.
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
August 09 2013 01:49 GMT
#5635
those rp's are beautiful
SnowfaLL
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada730 Posts
August 09 2013 01:49 GMT
#5636
On August 09 2013 10:22 1nobody wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 10:20 SnowfaLL wrote:
I think the issue is its taking like an hour between every game.. That is what makes these playoffs so long. 6 hours for 4 games?? The games themselves, were no more than 3.5 hours. Thats wayy too long between games.


Get recruited by a team and then play in tourney with no downtime, no pause between games to let your mind drift away and rest for a while. Then come back and well see


I disagree; every other tournament including the Prelims have had about half the time between games.. so why is the playoffs so different?? Not to mention, these teams play 1 series today, not 6 series like the Prelims which took less than 15 minutes between each game. Stop white-knighting things that are obviously an issue. You don't see this BS in OSL/GSL or even D2L/G-1/etc (not including lag/server issues, but obviously thats not an excuse at TI3)
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 09 2013 01:49 GMT
#5637
gg
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
August 09 2013 01:49 GMT
#5638
That engagement seals it for iG.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
August 09 2013 01:49 GMT
#5639
sick RP
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
August 09 2013 01:49 GMT
#5640
Super with an amazing RP is just the icing on the cake.
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