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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 10 2013 09:38 GMT
#7981
On August 10 2013 18:35 opterown wrote:
i don't know if it was because i was so tired or the teams were tired but today's games really dropped off at the end of the day

By the life of me I couldn't stay awake during the later games. It's a 13 hours twitch broadcast too, 1-2 hours longer then the previous days.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
duckmaster
Profile Joined August 2011
687 Posts
August 10 2013 09:52 GMT
#7982
I feel so sorry for TongFu, they clearly were the better team over NaVi, and on top of that I lost 70 euros betting on TongFu only to get robbed by fucking fountain hooking bastards. Consider me mad.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 10 2013 09:55 GMT
#7983
i wouldn't say they were the clearly better team, they looked evenly matched throughout the series. i would love to see a rematch between them
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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 10:01:00
August 10 2013 09:59 GMT
#7984
This whole fountain hooking thing is quite funny, I don't think it should be fixed because there's slightly more that went into that game than just the hooks winning it, that and the planets aligned for every comeback avenue possible to be taken by Na'vi successfully. The Gyro Aegis was the big one but I put that back on Hao for trying to steamroll through the enemy jungle blindly while they've seen what can happen.
That wasn't a move that turned a won game into a lost one though

But aren't these bugs the things that make games what they are? There were bugged things in BW that became staples of the game.

Also the fact its the biggest crowd pleaser you'll ever see

The only thing I'm disappointed about it, is for the next few days every pub I play will be filled with some silly 2 stack thinking they're dendi and puppey missing every fountain hook they ever throw.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#7985
On August 10 2013 18:59 Denzil wrote:
This whole fountain hooking thing is quite funny, I don't think it should be fixed because there's slightly more that went into that game than just the hooks winning it, that and the planets aligned for every comeback avenue possible to be taken by Na'vi successfully. The Gyro Aegis was the big one but I put that back on Hao for trying to steamroll through the enemy jungle blindly while they've seen what can happen.
That wasn't a move that turned a won game into a lost one though

But aren't these bugs the things that make games what they are? There were bugged things in BW that became staples of the game.

Also the fact its the biggest crowd pleaser you'll ever see

The only thing I'm disappointed about it, is for the next few days every pub I play will be filled with some silly 2 stack thinking they're dendi and puppey missing every fountain hook they ever throw.



Puppet disagrees with you.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 10 2013 10:03 GMT
#7986
On August 10 2013 18:59 Denzil wrote:
This whole fountain hooking thing is quite funny, I don't think it should be fixed because there's slightly more that went into that game than just the hooks winning it, that and the planets aligned for every comeback avenue possible to be taken by Na'vi successfully. The Gyro Aegis was the big one but I put that back on Hao for trying to steamroll through the enemy jungle blindly while they've seen what can happen.
That wasn't a move that turned a won game into a lost one though

But aren't these bugs the things that make games what they are? There were bugged things in BW that became staples of the game.

Also the fact its the biggest crowd pleaser you'll ever see

The only thing I'm disappointed about it, is for the next few days every pub I play will be filled with some silly 2 stack thinking they're dendi and puppey missing every fountain hook they ever throw.



Puppey disagrees with you.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
August 10 2013 10:35 GMT
#7987
Do they upload the vids to YouTube or are there only twitch vods?
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 10 2013 10:42 GMT
#7988
On August 10 2013 17:16 opterown wrote:
youtube VODs are here

http://www.youtube.com/user/dota2

ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
August 10 2013 10:52 GMT
#7989
On August 10 2013 18:59 Denzil wrote:
This whole fountain hooking thing is quite funny, I don't think it should be fixed because there's slightly more that went into that game than just the hooks winning it, that and the planets aligned for every comeback avenue possible to be taken by Na'vi successfully. The Gyro Aegis was the big one but I put that back on Hao for trying to steamroll through the enemy jungle blindly while they've seen what can happen.
That wasn't a move that turned a won game into a lost one though

But aren't these bugs the things that make games what they are? There were bugged things in BW that became staples of the game.

Also the fact its the biggest crowd pleaser you'll ever see

The only thing I'm disappointed about it, is for the next few days every pub I play will be filled with some silly 2 stack thinking they're dendi and puppey missing every fountain hook they ever throw.

I feel like Maelk, it was funny and amazing that they could make a comeback from this, but seems so wrong.

I mean, what are you supposed to do? If you can fountain hook, why you can't forcestaff+hook like in dota 1? Why you can't use blink dagger in pudge/venge? These are mechanics that require skills but aren't totally not fun for a competitive game. Remember when you could blink with Lasso. Why would you removes that and not fountain hook?

Tongfu didn't play their best, but isn't a signal that the combo isn't overpower. Imagine trying to push highground against it.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 10 2013 10:58 GMT
#7990
On August 10 2013 17:38 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 17:32 Seraphic wrote:
On August 10 2013 17:20 pyro19 wrote:
Holy shit that Na'vi - Tongfu game 3
Na'vi had no Right to win that..Their teamfight execution is just Out of this World


Ya some mad fan boys here on the forums were crying about it but at the end it was TongFu's fault for not pressuring a bit harder.

TongFu knew it was coming and instead of pressuring to stop it, they fell back and allowed NaVi to let them set it up more and more. It was really a mental mistake on TongFu's part, as it was NaVi's only way to get back into the game.

I heard that Loda told a chinese interviewer about dendi fountain hooks ”This is the most imbalanced thing I ever seen in dota2. It's fucking stupid. It's fucking ridiculous.“

Sounds to me like he already fears to travel for free with the dendi express. Incoming respect ban in the WB finals.

Loda is very quick to call things the most imbalanced thing in the world. Like when he called PL the most imbalanced thing in the world and PL proceeded to fade into a situational pick.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
August 10 2013 11:22 GMT
#7991
the na'vi 3rd game is unbelievable

totally recommend to watch it again :D
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
August 10 2013 11:23 GMT
#7992
Really enjoying seeing all the tears in this thread from Navi haters. Keep it up guys!
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
August 10 2013 11:29 GMT
#7993
On August 10 2013 18:55 opterown wrote:
i wouldn't say they were the clearly better team, they looked evenly matched throughout the series. i would love to see a rematch between them



Yeah that would be awesome, wonder if tong fu will ban out the pudge..or maybe just the chen the next time, and what sort of state of mind they would be in. Would make for a really good match.
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
August 10 2013 11:29 GMT
#7994
On August 10 2013 18:52 duckmaster wrote:
I feel so sorry for TongFu, they clearly were the better team over NaVi, and on top of that I lost 70 euros betting on TongFu only to get robbed by fucking fountain hooking bastards. Consider me mad.


I agree with you.

If it gets fixed, we know who to blame
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
August 10 2013 11:32 GMT
#7995
On August 10 2013 19:58 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 17:38 Mataza wrote:
On August 10 2013 17:32 Seraphic wrote:
On August 10 2013 17:20 pyro19 wrote:
Holy shit that Na'vi - Tongfu game 3
Na'vi had no Right to win that..Their teamfight execution is just Out of this World


Ya some mad fan boys here on the forums were crying about it but at the end it was TongFu's fault for not pressuring a bit harder.

TongFu knew it was coming and instead of pressuring to stop it, they fell back and allowed NaVi to let them set it up more and more. It was really a mental mistake on TongFu's part, as it was NaVi's only way to get back into the game.

I heard that Loda told a chinese interviewer about dendi fountain hooks ”This is the most imbalanced thing I ever seen in dota2. It's fucking stupid. It's fucking ridiculous.“

Sounds to me like he already fears to travel for free with the dendi express. Incoming respect ban in the WB finals.

Loda is very quick to call things the most imbalanced thing in the world. Like when he called PL the most imbalanced thing in the world and PL proceeded to fade into a situational pick.
Puppey does the exact same thing.
Once you Goblak...
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
August 10 2013 11:34 GMT
#7996
Complaining about fountain hook is kinda similar to armlet. Nobody really use it except 1 player/1 team until everybody abuses it until it is fix.

But of course, how many teams actually run pudge/chen atm?

Not to mention, the combo is actually pretty damn hard to hit but for Dendi to hit most of it, that deserved praise too.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 11:39:27
August 10 2013 11:35 GMT
#7997
Dendi's Hook Compilation

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crc
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia256 Posts
August 10 2013 11:37 GMT
#7998
Why aren't these haters crying when fountain hook was used before? EG had one game where they really tried to make that work, and it resulted in their own demise.

Really what the haters are highlighting with all their whinging, is how innovative Navi has been, discovering this high risk, high skill, exciting (source: the crowd at TI3) new combo that people have always known about, but didn't know how to get right. Also remember, Tongfu, for the longest time, had 3 heroes in the top 4 most farmed heroes list. Even if they fought 4v4, even if one of their carries got hooked back (they have 2 cores remember, doom was leading the farm early on), they still have a great chance if they just kept calm and pressed their massive advantage.

If a bug is really easily abusable and unfair, it would not be left in the game for this long (2 years). If a bug is really abusable situationally, then kudos to the first guy to discover this innovative new strat.
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
August 10 2013 11:39 GMT
#7999
On August 10 2013 20:37 crc wrote:
Why aren't these haters crying when fountain hook was used before? EG had one game where they really tried to make that work, and it resulted in their own demise.

Really what the haters are highlighting with all their whinging, is how innovative Navi has been, discovering this high risk, high skill, exciting (source: the crowd at TI3) new combo that people have always known about, but didn't know how to get right. Also remember, Tongfu, for the longest time, had 3 heroes in the top 4 most farmed heroes list. Even if they fought 4v4, even if one of their carries got hooked back (they have 2 cores remember, doom was leading the farm early on), they still have a great chance if they just kept calm and pressed their massive advantage.

If a bug is really easily abusable and unfair, it would not be left in the game for this long (2 years). If a bug is really abusable situationally, then kudos to the first guy to discover this innovative new strat.


It's done in a fucking high stakes game, that's the problem.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 10 2013 11:40 GMT
#8000
Opterown on the hunt for the rare 2nd star.
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