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Tarot
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada440 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7321
On August 12 2013 11:17 Fleuria wrote:
I think the fact puppey is banning all akkes supports and naga is pure genius, alliance look so lost with out them.

Anyway still think Alliance will win with some rat doto now.

Ya this seems by far the best way to play vs Alliance. Eastern teams couldn't really afford to do this before they were so scared vs Wisp and LD but Navi showing they're not afraid
Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7322
On August 12 2013 11:18 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:16 Slakkoo wrote:
Doesnt upper bracket help you at all?

Nope, it was like that last 2 TIs, but not this one for some odd reason.


Navi didnt get a 1-0 lead last year....it was only for the first TI.
"Did you know that in the original batman movie they casted nestea as joker but when batman threw him into the acid he was fine so they had to recast it with Jack Nicholson......it's a true fact" -Artosis
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7323
On August 12 2013 11:17 Firebolt145 wrote:
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On August 12 2013 11:17 superstartran wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:15 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Everybody always says Xboct is the weakest link but he's carried them so hard through both these games. He played so extremely well this game, being n01 farm with 3 alliance following him, so all the pressure was on him. He's a top carry without a doubt.



Hvost almost caused them to lose. I don't see how anyone can say that Hvost was the reason why they won when KKY the last game was the one catching S4 twice in key moments.

Kuroky probably made the clutch plays that won Na`Vi the game at the end but XBOCT definitely played well this game.


Kuroky makes things happen with so little, it's really amazing to watch.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7324
On August 12 2013 11:17 xyzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:16 Jehct wrote:
it seems like na'vi have figured out they can ban out egm/akke's playmakers and then just pile on pressure until s4 crumbles

finals stress might be getting to him. there's no big break for him to pull something out like dreamhack right?

Yup. Akke is the most important guy on that team and he's not getting his heroes. Any of them.

And they used to say that Admiralbulldog had the smallest heropool in Alliance.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7325
Is Na'Vi truly the kings of DotA?
Zizy
Profile Joined August 2012
Croatia684 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7326
On August 12 2013 11:17 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
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On August 12 2013 11:16 Jehct wrote:
it seems like na'vi have figured out they can ban out egm/akke's playmakers and then just pile on pressure until s4 crumbles

finals stress might be getting to him. there's no big break for him to pull something out like dreamhack right?

Loda gets the hero he can't carry with - that's the problem.
There was no need to go Mirana that game at all.


I think they thought Na'Vi would get Mirana so they took for itself. Also they have played it before.
xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7327
On August 12 2013 11:18 Woxbc wrote:
Does Na'Vi have to win two bo5s to take it or is there no winners bracket advantage?

No advantage, because this tournament is the strangest 'double elimination' tournament ever. You can lose the tournament by losing only one series.
broodmann
Profile Joined December 2011
604 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7328
On August 12 2013 11:17 pyro19 wrote:
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On August 12 2013 11:16 broodmann wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:15 Targe wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:14 broodmann wrote:
I don't get why they went for Mirana, she did almost nothing the entire game

She threw some sick spears, saved people with ulti and ended people with starfall, she did pretty good.


She did very little another carry couldnt have done


they were expecting him to Stay in his lane against Xboct and keep on harassing him.But that wisp relocate completely destroyed that lane and gave Alch free farm


Makes you wonder why they didnt expect that, they already knew whisp was going to be played
Sevre
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland619 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7329
On August 12 2013 11:17 Mataza wrote:
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On August 12 2013 11:16 Sevre wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:13 Nocticate wrote:
On August 12 2013 11:11 Saryph wrote:
Shortest possession of a newly purchased rapier ever?

I think that actually might go to Iceiceice. He kept his rapier on weaver for all of 15 seconds.


Aui_2000 lasted 10 in the Dignitas v LGD tiebreaker iirc.

I really need to rewatch that.
Is there a short youtube clip of that that i can watch inbetween drafts?


There are full VODs of it on youtube, but no clips as far as I can tell from my 15 seconds of searching.
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7330
On August 12 2013 11:18 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:17 Fleuria wrote:
I think the fact puppey is banning all akkes supports and naga is pure genius, alliance look so lost with out them.

Anyway still think Alliance will win with some rat doto now.


I wouldn't say lost, but i hope Na'Vi keeps banning Naga and Chen.


Actually they might do something funky with KotL, since Alliance could pick KotL/PL in the second pick phase....
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Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7331
For thje horde!
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7332
On August 12 2013 11:17 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:16 Jehct wrote:
it seems like na'vi have figured out they can ban out egm/akke's playmakers and then just pile on pressure until s4 crumbles

finals stress might be getting to him. there's no big break for him to pull something out like dreamhack right?

Loda gets the hero he can't carry with - that's the problem.
There was no need to go Mirana that game at all.

if I'm remembering right that's a theme with their lone druid play. Loda's put on a utility farmer while bulldog gets all the attention; otherwise they end up spread too thin
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
spacer
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2786 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7333
Mastermind Puppey has [A] figured out
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7334
On August 12 2013 11:18 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:14 Blackrobe wrote:


Still relevant.

Hahaha

Sorry, EG, but I only have place for 3 Swedish teams in my heart

Sean William Scott's secret CS career?
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7335
So are there statistics on how many heros have been played in the prelims+main tournament? Interested to know. I know Mushi played like 19.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7336
On August 12 2013 11:17 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:15 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Everybody always says Xboct is the weakest link but he's carried them so hard through both these games. He played so extremely well this game, being n01 farm with 3 alliance following him, so all the pressure was on him. He's a top carry without a doubt.


not really. he gets bailed out by his team mates for over aggressive play all the time. the only reason he didn't drop as much during that last game was because of the wisp play.

It's a team game. Xboct relies on his team. Seems like good play to me.

Xboct has played the best carry of the tournament probably.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7337
On August 12 2013 11:18 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:16 Slakkoo wrote:
Doesnt upper bracket help you at all?

Nope, it was like that last 2 TIs, but not this one for some odd reason.

While an upper bracket advantage may be fairer in for the teams, having a completely neutral start is a better spectacle for the fans, rather than having a huge amount of hype for what could be just two games. Valve also greatly increased the percentage of the prizepool that second place receives which sort of balances it out.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7338
On August 12 2013 11:14 FuzzyJAM wrote:
I guess Alliance are just crumbling under the pressure here.


More like brain fart. In the biggest tournament of their lives let alone prize money.. you just don't draft that way in game 2. By no means. It made absolutely no sense.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 12 2013 02:19 GMT
#7339
game 2 throw gonna bite them in the [A]ss
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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
August 12 2013 02:20 GMT
#7340
On August 12 2013 11:17 superstartran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:15 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Everybody always says Xboct is the weakest link but he's carried them so hard through both these games. He played so extremely well this game, being n01 farm with 3 alliance following him, so all the pressure was on him. He's a top carry without a doubt.



Hvost almost caused them to lose. I don't see how anyone can say that Hvost was the reason why they won when KKY the last game was the one catching S4 twice in key moments.

What? True Kuroky made some sick plays, but Xboct didn't make any mistakes except to be caught out at the Rosh fight, and that was clearly a team decision to go into the pit.
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