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On October 27 2013 22:38 FreakyDroid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 22:26 Gevna wrote:
I don't know yet if the patch really is as awful as people tends to make it sound, or if people (just like in every other game's communities) are blindly whining out of few games cuz their standard confort zone has been shaked up.
Anyway only time will tell, even if I'm not against the idea to have supports have a lot more impact. Its definitely not that. Dota has been over 4 major overhauls in the past (when icefrog stepped in, the blink dagger era, farming era and the push/rat era) and there was nothing but praise from the community. When i saw the changelog for this patch, I thought it would be stupid, but decided to reserve my opinion until after I see the changes in action, but after seeing the games from both the east and the west, I'm starting to think I was right with my initial thoughts. Not to mention, playing this patch is just fucking awful.
you cannot compare that stuff. nowadays dota has a larger audience in the west AND it has alot of competitive matches the second a patch gets online
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In this thread I read today's games were casted by LD and Godz, but the vods from BTS itself are not casted by them. wtf
well lgd vs tf is
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On October 27 2013 22:30 iv~nk~j wrote:
So because we get a few boring games the new patch must be the one guilty for it? Are we going to conveniently ignore all the awesome and entertaining games we've seen so far in 6.79 like the Alliance vs. NaVi series?
Na'vi Alliance in the 6.78 era was Awesome
The Latest 6.79 game was pretty meh
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On October 27 2013 22:47 TRAP[yoo] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 22:38 FreakyDroid wrote:On October 27 2013 22:26 Gevna wrote:
I don't know yet if the patch really is as awful as people tends to make it sound, or if people (just like in every other game's communities) are blindly whining out of few games cuz their standard confort zone has been shaked up.
Anyway only time will tell, even if I'm not against the idea to have supports have a lot more impact. Its definitely not that. Dota has been over 4 major overhauls in the past (when icefrog stepped in, the blink dagger era, farming era and the push/rat era) and there was nothing but praise from the community. When i saw the changelog for this patch, I thought it would be stupid, but decided to reserve my opinion until after I see the changes in action, but after seeing the games from both the east and the west, I'm starting to think I was right with my initial thoughts. Not to mention, playing this patch is just fucking awful. you cannot compare that stuff. nowadays dota has a larger audience in the west AND it has alot of competitive matches the second a patch gets online
I fail to see your point or how that negates mine.
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On October 27 2013 23:10 FreakyDroid wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 22:47 TRAP[yoo] wrote:On October 27 2013 22:38 FreakyDroid wrote:On October 27 2013 22:26 Gevna wrote:
I don't know yet if the patch really is as awful as people tends to make it sound, or if people (just like in every other game's communities) are blindly whining out of few games cuz their standard confort zone has been shaked up.
Anyway only time will tell, even if I'm not against the idea to have supports have a lot more impact. Its definitely not that. Dota has been over 4 major overhauls in the past (when icefrog stepped in, the blink dagger era, farming era and the push/rat era) and there was nothing but praise from the community. When i saw the changelog for this patch, I thought it would be stupid, but decided to reserve my opinion until after I see the changes in action, but after seeing the games from both the east and the west, I'm starting to think I was right with my initial thoughts. Not to mention, playing this patch is just fucking awful. you cannot compare that stuff. nowadays dota has a larger audience in the west AND it has alot of competitive matches the second a patch gets online I fail to see your point or how that negates mine.
first of all there is no way that there has ONLY been praise after changing certain fundemental ideas like the dagger. there will always be people that dont like change and they dont understand it so they hate on new stuff. back in the day you had very few competitive games after big changes took place (think about mym prime) and teams had time to adapt before trying out certain style. now they dont. one hour after a patch is live there is one tournament in which teams just try stuff out (tongfus mu said in an interview that it was his first time playing pugna in an official match). hence you have alot of stupid games cause it takes time for strategies to evolve...
and how can you know that games will go like this? you knew that midas would be abused like this?
anyways i would just give it some time and we will see what happens. one thing is sure thou...this version will stay with us for some time
and i dont understand why playing it would be "fucking awful"....its quite enjoyable in my opinion
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
most of this hate is just bandwagoning complainers who were already dissatisfied with the patch. outside of mass necro books, which is an easy fix, the patch has been very good.
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I've realized you can still buyback to use Midas because it gives reliable gold :D
Let's see if this trend will continue with another teams :/
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I personally don't see anything wrong with getting Midas on heroes that aren't typical hard carries/Furion.
What is wrong about wanting to get XP bonus? Isn't that what this patch encouraged, people get online early and fight early?
Even LD's being annoying by saying "dota's rotten now that even bh and veno get midas" what is rotten about players finding the most efficiency in their games?
The community asked for less split push, and one way or another, Icefrog delivered it. We reap what we sow.
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Rising Stars getting a dose of how broken dual mid with Lich is.
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On October 27 2013 23:23 TRAP[yoo] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2013 23:10 FreakyDroid wrote:On October 27 2013 22:47 TRAP[yoo] wrote:On October 27 2013 22:38 FreakyDroid wrote:On October 27 2013 22:26 Gevna wrote:
I don't know yet if the patch really is as awful as people tends to make it sound, or if people (just like in every other game's communities) are blindly whining out of few games cuz their standard confort zone has been shaked up.
Anyway only time will tell, even if I'm not against the idea to have supports have a lot more impact. Its definitely not that. Dota has been over 4 major overhauls in the past (when icefrog stepped in, the blink dagger era, farming era and the push/rat era) and there was nothing but praise from the community. When i saw the changelog for this patch, I thought it would be stupid, but decided to reserve my opinion until after I see the changes in action, but after seeing the games from both the east and the west, I'm starting to think I was right with my initial thoughts. Not to mention, playing this patch is just fucking awful. you cannot compare that stuff. nowadays dota has a larger audience in the west AND it has alot of competitive matches the second a patch gets online I fail to see your point or how that negates mine. first of all there is no way that there has ONLY been praise after changing certain fundemental ideas like the dagger. there will always be people that dont like change and they dont understand it so they hate on new stuff. back in the day you had very few competitive games after big changes took place (think about mym prime) and teams had time to adapt before trying out certain style. now they dont. one hour after a patch is live there is one tournament in which teams just try stuff out (tongfus mu said in an interview that it was his first time playing pugna in an official match). hence you have alot of stupid games cause it takes time for strategies to evolve... and how can you know that games will go like this? you knew that midas would be abused like this? anyways i would just give it some time and we will see what happens. one thing is sure thou...this version will stay with us for some time and i dont understand why playing it would be "fucking awful"....its quite enjoyable in my opinion
I see, those are valid points, however I was alluding more to the fact that this patch encourages 5 man doto and push much earlier, it takes away the skill required from supports and offlaners because its much easier now with the extra gold and xp range. Its awful because in pubs supports are more encouraged to farm and wait for items instead of actually supporting. Pro level is different, they can utilize the gold for the benefit of the team, but pub supporting has become much worse than before.
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Min 19 Midas on CM for QQQ.
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so wait how the fuck did both teams draw last night?
and why do they do a best of 2 if they can tie why not a bo3
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Because a bo2 is significantly easier to run on schedule than a bo3.
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Australia54784 Posts
something is really stuffed with TL's twitch streams ;s
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United Kingdom38257 Posts
Not to suggest that they were the ones actually responsible for the strategy, but why don't Rattlesnake ever get mentioned for running Midas CM in competitive first lol. Sag did it literally the series before Misery did.
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United Kingdom38257 Posts
Crouching Maiden, Hidden Naga.
Freedom hiding in the trees to turn the gank around completely with song heh
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Midas Gaming not dead yet. T_T
As good a place as any to mention that RattleSnake just lost 0-2 to an amateur team (DoubleTwo) during the G-League qualifiers.
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Why is everyone building midas lately? Not like the item got a buff in the lastest patch..
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why does china keep trying to make this work
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