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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
October 23 2013 10:28 GMT
#4341
On October 23 2013 19:26 Lucumo wrote:
Booh, rat dota. Would have been awesome if DK won that.

TongFu's strat was pretty much as far from "rat dota" as it could possibly be, I don't know what you're talking about.
super gg
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 23 2013 10:28 GMT
#4342
On October 23 2013 19:27 yrt123 wrote:
Did necro books have a big impact? Only managed to catch abit of the second game.

it forced lycan to get a diffusal blade
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mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 10:29:06
October 23 2013 10:28 GMT
#4343
On October 23 2013 19:26 Lucumo wrote:
Booh, rat dota. Would have been awesome if DK won that.

You keep saying that word, I don't think you know what it means.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
October 23 2013 10:28 GMT
#4344
On October 23 2013 19:27 yrt123 wrote:
Did necro books have a big impact? Only managed to catch abit of the second game.

tbh to me it looked more like the draft played a big role. having pugna and np to push as fast as possible. they certainly helped breaching the highground thou
FTD
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
October 23 2013 10:30 GMT
#4345
Godz + Winter best casting duo!
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fascistfromhell
Profile Joined September 2012
1689 Posts
October 23 2013 10:33 GMT
#4346
On October 23 2013 19:30 Lachrymose wrote:
Godz + Winter best casting duo!

They are the dream team alongside Draskyl for me. That trio would be so good.
Rebuild TL Dota.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
October 23 2013 10:34 GMT
#4347
On October 23 2013 19:22 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 19:08 mnesthes wrote:
On October 23 2013 19:04 Lucumo wrote:
On October 23 2013 18:20 lprk wrote:
On October 23 2013 18:19 Lucumo wrote:
Stupid 6.79 patch =(

Also, Luna glaive bounce is just lame.


Luna galive bounce is bugfix, it worked like that in WC3 DotA.

I played DotA and I don't remember that being the case.

Read up on it, you need a high enough attack speed for units+depends on some other things, buildings always work.

In dota 1 moon glaive can bounce back at a target it has passed through, due to the way it's coded.
In dota 2 moon glaive didn't work like that before, now it's fixed.

Like I said, just under certain circumstances, not by default.
Nope, pretty sure it's by default in dota 1, as it is hardcoded behavior.
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
October 23 2013 10:35 GMT
#4348
On October 23 2013 19:21 Jetaap wrote:
rofl
I'm pretty sure throne is not supposed to have backdoor protection, it's still a bug

No it was legitimized some time ago in a patch, there was a patch note saying something like "fixed Throne not having backdoor protection". This was for DotA of course. One of those things that clearly shows that Dota 2 is the higher priority game these days for IceFrog.
tsiisus
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland854 Posts
October 23 2013 10:35 GMT
#4349
On October 23 2013 19:27 Asha` wrote:
That was fun! Going to be interesting to see what people choose to do to deal with these strats.

LGD.int vs VG next eh. Wonder if we'll see the return of some of the old lgd luna 5 man

In theory you could go omniknight as a core in a pushing lineup of your own and go for "trades" when you have aghanim's on him (global and affects buildings as well). I said trades for lack of a better word but they wouldn't really be trades as you could push down a tower or barracks and still get to defend yours in time. With rank 1 aghanim's ulti you would have 10 seconds of building invulnerability with glyph and 12 seconds at rank 3.
Wake up sheeple!
Snakesneaks
Profile Joined February 2013
Italy2652 Posts
October 23 2013 10:36 GMT
#4350
The rise of micon means the rise of omniknight as well ?
Otacon : Snake, Snake, Snaaaaakkkkeeeeeeeeeee..............
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
October 23 2013 10:53 GMT
#4351
Can you infest into Necrobook creeps? That would make Lifestealer seem really good against this kind of push. Even if he can't, he still doesn't have to worry about the netherward (but decrep can really help save allies that the LS is targeting).
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
October 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#4352
On October 23 2013 19:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
Can you infest into Necrobook creeps? That would make Lifestealer seem really good against this kind of push. Even if he can't, he still doesn't have to worry about the netherward (but decrep can really help save allies that the LS is targeting).

I don't think spending your Naix bomb just to kill one Necro creep is efficient to be honest
lprk
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2249 Posts
October 23 2013 11:03 GMT
#4353
On October 23 2013 19:58 iv~nk~j wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 19:53 wuhan_clan wrote:
Can you infest into Necrobook creeps? That would make Lifestealer seem really good against this kind of push. Even if he can't, he still doesn't have to worry about the netherward (but decrep can really help save allies that the LS is targeting).

I don't think spending your Naix bomb just to kill one Necro creep is efficient to be honest


Also you still take damage when you kill melee unit, so it's much better to kill it with few hits while raged.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 11:14:50
October 23 2013 11:14 GMT
#4354
DK seemed to be struggling a bit in this patch, even Mushi is asking for suggestion for B/P at his QQ Weibo. Black also have a QQ apparently, http://t.qq.com/BlackWeiboDota2
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 11:21:09
October 23 2013 11:16 GMT
#4355
On October 23 2013 20:14 RiZu wrote:
DK seemed to be struggling a bit in this patch, even Mushi is asking for suggestion for B/P at his QQ Weibo. Black also have a QQ apparently, http://t.qq.com/BlackWeiboDota2

I can see the patch being really bad for DK, who tend to play with a lot of finesse, given how much it encourages what is effectively face rushing.

Good for Na'Vi though.

On October 23 2013 19:28 CorsairHero wrote:
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On October 23 2013 19:27 yrt123 wrote:
Did necro books have a big impact? Only managed to catch abit of the second game.

it forced lycan to get a diffusal blade

Unless I saw it wrong he still took the pure damage when he purged the necro warrior, so I'd say it's iffy at best as a counter.

Does the dispel on Primal Split purge necro units?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 23 2013 11:20 GMT
#4356
Tongfu executed this draft very well. DK lineup was very ulti and bkb dependent. You can see ever time they tried to engage, tongfu would just retreat and engage after the duration. Tongfu lineup had much stronger 'small spells'.

One thing I wanna point out though is that sf shouldn't have gotten blink. That gold should have been used to make his DPS more significant. DK threw all their eggs into a big wombo combo. He needed to make his right clicks more relevant especially with Lucan getting kited constantly.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
October 23 2013 11:24 GMT
#4357
On October 23 2013 19:28 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 19:26 Lucumo wrote:
Booh, rat dota. Would have been awesome if DK won that.

You keep saying that word, I don't think you know what it means.

What kinda drugs did you take? Considering that I barely post here, it's either my first or second time saying that.

On October 23 2013 19:28 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 19:26 Lucumo wrote:
Booh, rat dota. Would have been awesome if DK won that.

TongFu's strat was pretty much as far from "rat dota" as it could possibly be, I don't know what you're talking about.

I never said it was the strategy. The end was like it though.

On October 23 2013 19:34 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 19:22 Lucumo wrote:
On October 23 2013 19:08 mnesthes wrote:
On October 23 2013 19:04 Lucumo wrote:
On October 23 2013 18:20 lprk wrote:
On October 23 2013 18:19 Lucumo wrote:
Stupid 6.79 patch =(

Also, Luna glaive bounce is just lame.


Luna galive bounce is bugfix, it worked like that in WC3 DotA.

I played DotA and I don't remember that being the case.

Read up on it, you need a high enough attack speed for units+depends on some other things, buildings always work.

In dota 1 moon glaive can bounce back at a target it has passed through, due to the way it's coded.
In dota 2 moon glaive didn't work like that before, now it's fixed.

Like I said, just under certain circumstances, not by default.
Nope, pretty sure it's by default in dota 1, as it is hardcoded behavior.

Play some DotA then or watch replays.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 23 2013 11:25 GMT
#4358
let's see what crazy drafts come out of this
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juff
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4659 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 11:26:38
October 23 2013 11:25 GMT
#4359
On October 23 2013 20:16 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 20:14 RiZu wrote:
DK seemed to be struggling a bit in this patch, even Mushi is asking for suggestion for B/P at his QQ Weibo. Black also have a QQ apparently, http://t.qq.com/BlackWeiboDota2

I can see the patch being really bad for DK, who tend to play with a lot of finesse, given how much it encourages what is effectively face rushing.

Good for Na'Vi though.

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 19:28 CorsairHero wrote:
On October 23 2013 19:27 yrt123 wrote:
Did necro books have a big impact? Only managed to catch abit of the second game.

it forced lycan to get a diffusal blade

Unless I saw it wrong he still took the pure damage when he purged the necro warrior, so I'd say it's iffy at best as a counter.

Does the dispel on Primal Split purge necro units?


Yes, but it only does 200 damage. A more interesting way would be to control the small satyr, which does 400 damage with its purge.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 23 2013 11:26 GMT
#4360
Those Mushi stats o,O
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