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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 28 2013 18:42 GMT
#1261
no
mss dicked around bot lane and did nothing to the base while alliance just walked up and took tower and barracks and came to the fight late
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
October 28 2013 18:43 GMT
#1262
single core lineups versus doom is just a loss
even with their snowball ns just doesn't contribute much late game.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 28 2013 18:43 GMT
#1263
someday fear will have a proper team. i cant believe he still builds teams like this, player skills++, team building skills--.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
broodmann
Profile Joined December 2011
604 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 18:44:35
October 28 2013 18:43 GMT
#1264
Great play for EG (comapred to what we're used to), you can really see the difference with this new lineup. Alliance playing superbly lategame though and their picks where so good.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 28 2013 18:44 GMT
#1265
So i was sitting in class. Was this a full EG throw, less, or an EG throw to the next level beyond what was initially thought possible?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 28 2013 18:45 GMT
#1266
also dk is just bad when tc is so popular right now aura counters him so hard
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 28 2013 18:46 GMT
#1267
It remembers me a lot of pubgames in fact, one team leading on kills but never achieving any objective while the other team takes a tower or rosh every time they kill one or two ennemye heroe. Obviously there were tons of skill in this game too.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
October 28 2013 18:46 GMT
#1268
On October 29 2013 03:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
So i was sitting in class. Was this a full EG throw, less, or an EG throw to the next level beyond what was initially thought possible?


it was more like EG having a lead early with the more aggressive early game lineup but failing to transition into the mid and late game. Fearshaker saved EG quite a few times to extend the game but in the end it was the same old, same old. Jeyo in stupid positions, chaotic team fights and Alliance just being better.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 18:47:11
October 28 2013 18:46 GMT
#1269
On October 29 2013 03:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
So i was sitting in class. Was this a full EG throw, less, or an EG throw to the next level beyond what was initially thought possible?
It wasn't a throw at all.

They were never all that far ahead early game.
Once you Goblak...
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
October 28 2013 18:46 GMT
#1270
On October 29 2013 03:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
So i was sitting in class. Was this a full EG throw, less, or an EG throw to the next level beyond what was initially thought possible?


they got ahead, didnt farm as good as alliance did, lost lategame to a better draft, that is how i felt the game went.
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
October 28 2013 18:47 GMT
#1271
On October 29 2013 03:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
So i was sitting in class. Was this a full EG throw, less, or an EG throw to the next level beyond what was initially thought possible?

EG had a 3k gold lead at about 20-30 min into the game and Alliance turned it around. So not really a throw but twitch chat will tell you otherwise.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 28 2013 18:47 GMT
#1272
On October 29 2013 03:44 Two_DoWn wrote:
So i was sitting in class. Was this a full EG throw, less, or an EG throw to the next level beyond what was initially thought possible?


Wasn't really a throw. Alliance's lineup scaled amazingly well late-game, whereas EG's didn't.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
October 28 2013 18:48 GMT
#1273
On October 29 2013 03:41 AwfuL_ wrote:
Ehm, the main reason A is winning is because their heroes simply scale a ton better

Lategame isn't decided entirely by who scales better. I think EG should have been favored lategame since Clockwerk and DK are pretty natural counters to Lifestealer, who was the solo carry for his team. I think Alliance just had better decision making and superior micro during the fights.
Dodge arrows
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 28 2013 18:48 GMT
#1274
Yeah, MSS missed a lot of hooks too when they had opportunities to abuse their pickoff potential. They got a few picks midgame but not really enough.

Alliance still have the best map-sense in dota right now.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
October 28 2013 18:48 GMT
#1275
Ya 3k at 20-30 isnt much. I wasnt watching closely so all i saw was eg winning then losing.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Noya
Profile Joined April 2013
Uruguay11223 Posts
October 28 2013 18:49 GMT
#1276
Well wasn't the key to defeat Alliance to just shutdown s4 hard in lane? If you let him have a Blink on Mag by min 11 you better get a good trade... Loda and Bulldog will surely find their farm if s4 is creating space for them.
Colston
Profile Joined November 2012
Norway279 Posts
October 28 2013 18:51 GMT
#1277
It's obviously not a throw, Alliance draft just better late game, that's all.
He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious. - Sun Tzu | TaeJa | Jjakji | Jaedong
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
October 28 2013 18:52 GMT
#1278
On October 29 2013 03:48 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 03:41 AwfuL_ wrote:
Ehm, the main reason A is winning is because their heroes simply scale a ton better

Lategame isn't decided entirely by who scales better. I think EG should have been favored lategame since Clockwerk and DK are pretty natural counters to Lifestealer, who was the solo carry for his team. I think Alliance just had better decision making and superior micro during the fights.


Alliance's teamfight is super easy to pull off compared to EG's though. Their single concern is to make sure Magnus isn't picked off, so he can counterinitiate with ulti. EG had to somehow find Magnus, hit him with hookshot, stun him through BKB using Abyssal, actually kill him off during the Abyssal stun (else he'll just ulti or skewer out).
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 28 2013 18:54 GMT
#1279
Dont forget that EGM and Bulldog both had forcestaffs to save anybody who got hooked (I mean, so did S4 but you can't forcestaff while stunned).
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AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
October 28 2013 18:54 GMT
#1280
Meanwhile people are shitting on everyone but Fear while probably the biggest reason EG lost is his draft that ultimately didn't hold up in the lategame
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