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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
November 25 2013 01:48 GMT
#3961
Tbh, I wouldn't have banned the LD. I don't think Burning plays him *that* well.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3962
On November 25 2013 10:47 Nocticate wrote:
Icefrog has been attempting for a while now to get teams to embrace all-out aggression and they always seem to find a way to play even safer and greedier than before. Kinda sucks. Although, it does make for some interesting things like very farmed supports in the mid and lategame.
The game is more aggressive this patch than it was last. And last patch was more aggressive than the one before.

Stop judging the game based on a tiny sample size.
Once you Goblak...
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3963
On November 25 2013 10:48 Hassybaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:47 konadora wrote:
wow i went to sleep 7 hours ago and the grand finals are going on... LOL

(not to mention it seems like DK won in an epic way?)


Refresher blink slam kona. You'll be so happy when you watch the replay

;_; that's my boys DK

cant wait for VOD

game 2!!!!!!!!!!!
POGGERS
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3964
On November 25 2013 10:41 Yoshi- wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if Spg would now just crumble and get quickly dk'ed


thats what i thought and i am going to sleep now (important day for me).


Game1 was over at about 10mins after rtz got his midas and get solo'ed by burning, but then DK went midas gaming and proceed to derp hard (the first failed fight was caused by ice3) and lanm didnt use blink ulti (at least twice in 2 big fights), whole team was dead and he walked home alone with ulti rdy.

Speed's credit goes to EE went for (really) tanky build with lich's armor+orge's armor+that early pipe, in which Dk didn't quite realize that he had 40+armor at 15mins or something rofl. and multiple forcestaves that made ice3's cogs useless of course.

All dk needed to do was ES jump in combo (and probably die) and then clock goes in for the clean up with team.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3965
I don't know if I am ready for another 70 minutes game, help guys.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3966
On November 25 2013 10:48 babylon wrote:
Tbh, I wouldn't have banned the LD. I don't think Burning plays him *that* well.

*cough*TI3*cough*50K networth*cough*still lost

T_T
POGGERS
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 01:50:24
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3967
On November 25 2013 10:48 babylon wrote:
Tbh, I wouldn't have banned the LD. I don't think Burning plays him *that* well.
They want to first pick OD.

Or not...
Once you Goblak...
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3968
Am I the only one who is suddenly having problems with the mlg player? Before it was fine but now I get lag spikes quite often. I guess I will just watch in the game client =/
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 01:50:30
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3969
On November 25 2013 10:48 drew-chan wrote:
I swear every LR thread, Caster X sucks, Team Y play style is so underhanded, player Z is a douche.

at least people dont cry about balance in dota2 =D
but yea you summed up every LR ever of a tournament where fan favorites play
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 01:50:11
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3970
On November 25 2013 10:45 ffreakk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:28 Targe wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:26 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:24 Targe wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:23 zezamer wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:09 zezamer wrote:
I have feeling that DK's gonna take this eventually despite casters saying they're in horrible position

TOLD YA

im listening to chinese stream because LD always talks shit when it comes to the position teams are in


I seriously don't get how he acts like a 12 slotted bear wouldn't do much more... even just with these items the hero is already so, so much better. I mean almost perma stunning Outworld probably won them the important fight.

that and lanm, i really think LD is the worst caster on BTS just for that reason though


Hmm? I'm fairly certain LD's analysis is almost always on-point. The bad one is Lumi. I don't know what you think, but DK was obviously in a terrible position from where i am looking.


You people should learn to focus on what u like more on then what u dislike. Life gets more pleasant, rly true I like LD, only non screaming commentator. I hate that. Sometimes he tries to scream but we all know a peacefull LD is an entertaining ld
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3971
On November 25 2013 10:47 Flanq wrote:
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On November 25 2013 10:47 Denzil wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:45 SongByungWewt wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:42 teapoted wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:41 Targe wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:39 teapoted wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:37 TheYango wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:36 werynais wrote:
Well that was something, Speed should have just finished the game 30 minutes ago ...serious fuck up

You cannot high ground haphazardly vs. Earthshaker. He is one of the most powerful heroes in the game for fighting a defensive fight in your base.

If anything, LanM showed that this game.
No, but they multiple times got refresher echo'ed on 3 heroes. The first time they weren't even in DK's base.

Obviously amazing play from lanm, but like any great RP, great Ravage, great Echo Slam. 50% of the work is done by your opponents.

when those heroes have blink though it takes a couple seconds of mis micro in the timsepan of like 50 minutes to get caught out
It really isn't as difficult as you make it sound. Teams learned to play against Ravage, teams learned to play against RP. Speed did not respect ES as much as they would have respected a Magnus to not get caught out.


No it was not about respect. It was about RTZ's bad play. He constantly played over aggressive and out of position compared to his team, force staffing forward when he had no BKB to chase. You know how many times he got killed by Pugna's drain because he was over-extended and chasing and couldn't turn around to astral Pugna? He acted like he was playing weaver or TA and totally threw it for his team. It wasn't just the one fight in base when Lanm caught him out. There were at least 3 diff instances of RTZ playing way too aggressive and getting himself killed, thereby making it impossible for SPG to push raxes.

I 100% blame RTZ for that loss.


you may blame him for that loss, but you have to equally credit him for getting speed into that position

thats how arteezy plays differently to how sing plays mid

big plays, big throws

High Risk, High Reward is a nicer more accurate way of putting it.


yes that would be the term i was looking for
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3972
On November 25 2013 10:45 SongByungWewt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:42 teapoted wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:41 Targe wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:39 teapoted wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:37 TheYango wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:36 werynais wrote:
Well that was something, Speed should have just finished the game 30 minutes ago ...serious fuck up

You cannot high ground haphazardly vs. Earthshaker. He is one of the most powerful heroes in the game for fighting a defensive fight in your base.

If anything, LanM showed that this game.
No, but they multiple times got refresher echo'ed on 3 heroes. The first time they weren't even in DK's base.

Obviously amazing play from lanm, but like any great RP, great Ravage, great Echo Slam. 50% of the work is done by your opponents.

when those heroes have blink though it takes a couple seconds of mis micro in the timsepan of like 50 minutes to get caught out
It really isn't as difficult as you make it sound. Teams learned to play against Ravage, teams learned to play against RP. Speed did not respect ES as much as they would have respected a Magnus to not get caught out.


No it was not about respect. It was about RTZ's bad play. He constantly played over aggressive and out of position compared to his team, force staffing forward when he had no BKB to chase. You know how many times he got killed by Pugna's drain because he was over-extended and chasing and couldn't turn around to astral Pugna? He acted like he was playing weaver or TA and totally threw it for his team. It wasn't just the one fight in base when Lanm caught him out. There were at least 3 diff instances of RTZ playing way too aggressive and getting himself killed, thereby making it impossible for SPG to push raxes.

I 100% blame RTZ for that loss.


There are times RTZ got caught and died but that final moments of him getting caught cannot be his fault. He was in his base behind where the rax used to be. He didn't count on being jumped on so suddenly and that cannot be accounted really. The thing is he had no bb because he used it to buy a fresh BKB which he DID need. It was just a wonderful timing by DK to catch RTZ like that.

So yes in a way it was RTZ dying that really cost Speed the game, but you are against Mega creeps. Even if they wipe DK once, Mega creeps will still be in your base and all it takes is 1 LD buyback with a bear and the throne will die anyway. Speed's only shot at that game was to wipe DK twice at least to even get a shot, which probably won't happen cuz of mega creeps in base while DK had their entire base still with all BB accounted for.

When it comes to situations like that, DK is the best in the world because they do not mess up in those situations. Burning is the best carry in the world for a very good reason, he never messes up his item builds, or his positioning. Speed was in a bad spot regardless of what LD and GoDz said.
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pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
November 25 2013 01:49 GMT
#3973
On November 25 2013 10:48 drew-chan wrote:
I swear every LR thread, Caster X sucks, Team Y play style is so underhanded, player Z is a douche.

It's almost as if we're on the Internet.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
November 25 2013 01:50 GMT
#3974
On November 25 2013 10:49 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:48 drew-chan wrote:
I swear every LR thread, Caster X sucks, Team Y play style is so underhanded, player Z is a douche.

at least people dont cry about balance in dota2 =DDD


Dude, Dire totally imbalanced for Roshan advantage
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-25 01:50:33
November 25 2013 01:50 GMT
#3975
On November 25 2013 10:49 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:48 drew-chan wrote:
I swear every LR thread, Caster X sucks, Team Y play style is so underhanded, player Z is a douche.

at least people dont cry about balance in dota2 =DDD

hah, it didn't matter what team people cried about cancer lancer =p
Retvets
Profile Joined April 2013
1781 Posts
November 25 2013 01:50 GMT
#3976
Should speed push earlier?
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
November 25 2013 01:50 GMT
#3977
On November 25 2013 10:50 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:49 zezamer wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:48 drew-chan wrote:
I swear every LR thread, Caster X sucks, Team Y play style is so underhanded, player Z is a douche.

at least people dont cry about balance in dota2 =DDD

hah, it didn't matter what team people cried about cancer lancer =p


Kotl that
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17644 Posts
November 25 2013 01:50 GMT
#3978
Timber + Naix would be awesome.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
khanofmongols
Profile Joined January 2011
542 Posts
November 25 2013 01:50 GMT
#3979
They ban the two heros who didn't even do that much in that game. The lone druid and clock weren't effective in the last game compared to the earthshaker and pugna.
the`postman
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1643 Posts
November 25 2013 01:50 GMT
#3980
On November 25 2013 10:45 SongByungWewt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2013 10:42 teapoted wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:41 Targe wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:39 teapoted wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:37 TheYango wrote:
On November 25 2013 10:36 werynais wrote:
Well that was something, Speed should have just finished the game 30 minutes ago ...serious fuck up

You cannot high ground haphazardly vs. Earthshaker. He is one of the most powerful heroes in the game for fighting a defensive fight in your base.

If anything, LanM showed that this game.
No, but they multiple times got refresher echo'ed on 3 heroes. The first time they weren't even in DK's base.

Obviously amazing play from lanm, but like any great RP, great Ravage, great Echo Slam. 50% of the work is done by your opponents.

when those heroes have blink though it takes a couple seconds of mis micro in the timsepan of like 50 minutes to get caught out
It really isn't as difficult as you make it sound. Teams learned to play against Ravage, teams learned to play against RP. Speed did not respect ES as much as they would have respected a Magnus to not get caught out.


No it was not about respect. It was about RTZ's bad play. He constantly played over aggressive and out of position compared to his team, force staffing forward when he had no BKB to chase. You know how many times he got killed by Pugna's drain because he was over-extended and chasing and couldn't turn around to astral Pugna? He acted like he was playing weaver or TA and totally threw it for his team. It wasn't just the one fight in base when Lanm caught him out. There were at least 3 diff instances of RTZ playing way too aggressive and getting himself killed, thereby making it impossible for SPG to push raxes.

I 100% blame RTZ for that loss.

You're delusional, arteezy was the only core that did anything the first 60 minutes, singsing and envy had zero farm. Arteezy's aggressive initaitons were winning them those fights, the problem was no clear retreat calls (or atleast executions).
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