AA pretty useful too. Eclipse + Blast pretty much pwns everything.

I think that EG had a great draft with some really good synergies. Would like to see something other than Brew though since he was the only one who didn't have synergy with Void.

blobrus

4297 Posts

June 22 2014 20:17 GMT

#5611

Really think Fnatic should save the meepo for the 4th or 5th pick. If it gets banned oh well but giving a top team like EG an entire draft to pick against the meepo just won't work.

Regardless I really love the style and picks Fnatic have recently adopted with Excalibur.

Acritter

Syria7637 Posts

June 22 2014 20:17 GMT

#5612

Excalibur's a really, really good player. But his hero pool is way too shallow, and because he's generally playing the 1 position, it makes Fnatic way too weak against good drafts. It's not like AdmiralBulldog, who played a small subset of solidly versatile heroes who couldn't just be answered.

It's limiting Fnatic's drafting abilities, and that's setting them far back in these games.

Diavlo

Belgium2915 Posts

June 22 2014 20:17 GMT

#5613

On June 23 2014 05:11 Bodhi wrote:
Very unimpressed with this meepo play after all the hype

He plays Meepo very well, but Void/OD kinda wreck him. I love Fnatic but i really want them to do other things than that Tiny/Tinker/Meepo because sooner or later teams are just going to specifically counter them.
I don't even want to think about what would happen if they played Newbee, who would just shamelessly pick Void/ember and rape Meepo all day long.

Manit0u

Poland17613 Posts

June 22 2014 20:20 GMT

#5614

On June 23 2014 05:17 Diavlo wrote:

Show nested quote +

In theory Fnatic can also pick Meepo early in the draft, wait for the enemy team to counter-draft around it and just give it to N0tail as support. Mind games and stuff.

Kishin2

United States7534 Posts

June 22 2014 20:23 GMT

#5615

Fnatic has won pretty much every game they've 2nd picked Meepo. Why stop what works? Excalibur can most certainly play other heroes, it's just that he's so good with meepo/tinker that the rest of fnatic trust him enough to pick it every game. We saw from last game that even if you shut down Meepo early game, he still gets your team a 10k+ xp and gold lead. The reason EG won is because they played better. Fnatic never managed to do anything with aegis and they had it 3 times. Arteezy was left alone all game and impressively enough, managed to stay even in gold with Excalibur.

FakeDeath

Malaysia6060 Posts

June 22 2014 20:26 GMT

#5616

EG gonna give me rares.

Luckily pdd drafted to counter Meepo strat.
Fnatic has to stop being a trick playing the Tinker/Meepo/Io-Wisp strats.
They have been running these same 3 strats over and over.

I am pretty sure Excalibur can play the traditional carry heroes well.
Fnatic just being stubborn.

Zath.erin

Canada429 Posts

June 22 2014 20:27 GMT

#5617

Alright so Fnatic refuses to play anything but Meepo, if they get 2-0'd are they going to change up their strat for the lower bracket?

SQWKZ

Finland720 Posts

June 22 2014 20:29 GMT

#5618

On June 23 2014 05:09 spacer wrote:
Aye constantly: this is what we've been talking about... I can never recall them having talked about it

Ayesee constantly alludes to these deep Dota discussions he's had with with various pros and co-casters, and usually just leaves it at that.

Blitzkrieg0

United States13132 Posts

June 22 2014 20:29 GMT

#5619

On June 23 2014 05:20 Manit0u wrote:

Show nested quote +

In theory Fnatic can also pick Meepo early in the draft, wait for the enemy team to counter-draft around it and just give it to N0tail as support. Mind games and stuff.

Has Fnatic ever actually done this? Everyone keeps posting this in the LR threads like it is a thing.