• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:40
CET 08:40
KST 16:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion6Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win I am looking for StarCraft 2 Beta Patch files Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction
Tourneys
$70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea Video Footage from 2005: The Birth of G2 in Spain BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2094 users

[HyperX D2L] Western Challenge - Page 244

Forum Index > Dota 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 242 243 244 245 246 333 Next
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
June 20 2014 18:23 GMT
#4861
On June 21 2014 03:22 Nymzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 03:22 Kishin2 wrote:
Funn1k underrated as always.

mana burn completely demolishes tinker

His whole kit is pretty anti-tinker.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 18:24:45
June 20 2014 18:23 GMT
#4862
On June 21 2014 03:20 Kishin2 wrote:
lol did Na'Vi just take a 4v5 engagement without XBOCT and black hole?

Not exactly 4v4 without Hvost, then black hole into 3v4 but Fnatic had also used everything and Tinker was in the fountain getting mana and dropping his BKB

On June 21 2014 03:22 Nymzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 03:22 Kishin2 wrote:
Funn1k underrated as always.

mana burn completely demolishes tinker

and Doom/Silencer.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 18:25:19
June 20 2014 18:24 GMT
#4863
On June 21 2014 03:23 uriel- wrote:
Both teams better be drunk or TI4 is looking bleak


This is standard level of play for these 2 teams. They are among the weakest direct invites and even with Navi's reputation, neither team is expected to go deep.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
June 20 2014 18:25 GMT
#4864
Bottle > BKB late game guys
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
June 20 2014 18:25 GMT
#4865
On June 21 2014 03:23 Diavlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 03:20 Kishin2 wrote:
lol did Na'Vi just take a 4v5 engagement without XBOCT and black hole?

Not exactly 4v4 without Hvost, then black hole into 3v4 but Fnatic had also used everything and Tinker was in the fountain getting mana and dropping his BKB

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 03:22 Nymzee wrote:
On June 21 2014 03:22 Kishin2 wrote:
Funn1k underrated as always.

mana burn completely demolishes tinker

and Doom/Silencer.

Basically any hero with a good set of silence and mana burn screws over Tinker bad.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 18:27:19
June 20 2014 18:27 GMT
#4866
Excal tried to rearm X2 with maleface on him and got it canceled both times. Then he tried again and puck silenced. Clearly bottle gives you more mana than bkb in teamfights
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
June 20 2014 18:27 GMT
#4867
On June 21 2014 03:22 Count9 wrote:
"I don't like singling players out" names ppy MVP then singles out trixi

lol, which one of them said that? I always mute Ayesee casts sooner or later, but this one was sooner 'cause the cocaster was awful too.
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
June 20 2014 18:27 GMT
#4868
On June 21 2014 03:24 wuhan_clan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 03:23 uriel- wrote:
Both teams better be drunk or TI4 is looking bleak


This is standard level of play for these 2 teams. They are among the weakest direct invites and even with Navi's reputation, neither team is expected to go deep.


have you seen navi plays pre ti 2/3. they will get top 5, maybe even 2nd again!
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
June 20 2014 18:27 GMT
#4869
I never saw h4nni doom anyone worth while. Drums also seemed like a bad choice.
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
June 20 2014 18:28 GMT
#4870
excal uses a program to remove/get items in order to get mana quicker (drops all items etc) so maybe it was a mistake in the program? i can't imagine a player not wanting bkb in that situation

tbf it also took him a good 10-15 seconds to get to the fight ... he farmed top and mid before joining :/
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
June 20 2014 18:29 GMT
#4871
On June 21 2014 03:28 Nymzee wrote:
excal uses a program to remove/get items in order to get mana quicker (drops all items etc)

Source? He did this in a lan too, where I imagine he was not allowed to use third party software.
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
June 20 2014 18:29 GMT
#4872
offtop, isn't bkb kinda imba on tinker? Shouldn't it be removed for him just as midas is?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 18:31:37
June 20 2014 18:30 GMT
#4873
I'm assuming he means binds (like "swap item slot 5 with stash slot 5" or something which I'm sure you could bind to a key in dota. And you'd be allowed to use that on lan too since its an in-game thing.

That said, its probably a bullshit accusation.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
June 20 2014 18:30 GMT
#4874
On June 21 2014 03:29 V1ctor wrote:
offtop, isn't bkb kinda imba on tinker? Shouldn't it be removed for him just as midas is?

thats been patched like 4 years ago. Its still good because as we saw bkbless tinker can get fucked
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
June 20 2014 18:30 GMT
#4875
On June 21 2014 03:29 V1ctor wrote:
offtop, isn't bkb kinda imba on tinker? Shouldn't it be removed for him just as midas is?

You can't refresh the cooldown on BKB and Midas along with a few other items like Necrobook.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 18:31:24
June 20 2014 18:30 GMT
#4876
On June 21 2014 03:29 V1ctor wrote:
offtop, isn't bkb kinda imba on tinker? Shouldn't it be removed for him just as midas is?

You can't rearm bkb or yeah it would be imba. Linkens rearms though.
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-20 18:31:22
June 20 2014 18:30 GMT
#4877
On June 21 2014 03:29 Pyrthas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 03:28 Nymzee wrote:
excal uses a program to remove/get items in order to get mana quicker (drops all items etc)

Source? He did this in a lan too, where I imagine he was not allowed to use third party software.

if you look at the replays he drops all items simultaneously and picks them all up simultaneously, maybe im not giving the guy credit but to me that's not possible in dota

dumb question: can you rearm mekansm on tinker?

i dont play the hero :D
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
June 20 2014 18:32 GMT
#4878
On June 21 2014 03:30 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 03:29 V1ctor wrote:
offtop, isn't bkb kinda imba on tinker? Shouldn't it be removed for him just as midas is?

You can't refresh the cooldown on BKB and Midas along with a few other items like Necrobook.


Thanks for the info, did not know that.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 20 2014 18:32 GMT
#4879
On June 21 2014 03:30 Nymzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 03:29 Pyrthas wrote:
On June 21 2014 03:28 Nymzee wrote:
excal uses a program to remove/get items in order to get mana quicker (drops all items etc)

Source? He did this in a lan too, where I imagine he was not allowed to use third party software.

if you look at the replays he drops all items simultaneously and picks them all up simultaneously, maybe im not giving the guy credit but to me that's not possible in dota

dumb question: can you rearm mekansm on tinker?

i dont play the hero :D

Probably. Rearming mek doesn't help since you can't get mek'd more than once every 25s or something close.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32746 Posts
June 20 2014 18:32 GMT
#4880
On June 21 2014 03:30 Nymzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 03:29 Pyrthas wrote:
On June 21 2014 03:28 Nymzee wrote:
excal uses a program to remove/get items in order to get mana quicker (drops all items etc)

Source? He did this in a lan too, where I imagine he was not allowed to use third party software.

if you look at the replays he drops all items simultaneously and picks them all up simultaneously, maybe im not giving the guy credit but to me that's not possible in dota

dumb question: can you rearm mekansm on tinker?

i dont play the hero :D

I think you can but it doesn't matter because "Healing does not affect any units that have been healed by Restore in the last 25 seconds."
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Prev 1 242 243 244 245 246 333 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 20m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft471
SortOf 128
StarCraft: Brood War
Stork 2541
GuemChi 902
ggaemo 416
Aegong 352
Larva 188
firebathero 171
Hm[arnc] 155
Noble 114
ajuk12(nOOB) 97
soO 89
[ Show more ]
Sharp 85
Shine 81
ZergMaN 56
EffOrt 53
ToSsGirL 53
Shuttle 52
Nal_rA 31
GoRush 21
Sacsri 17
Bale 16
NaDa 10
Icarus 9
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm121
febbydoto79
League of Legends
JimRising 699
C9.Mang0430
Other Games
summit1g6400
XaKoH 164
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1332
• Rush1215
• Stunt359
• HappyZerGling110
Upcoming Events
OSC
3h 20m
Shameless vs MaNa
Nicoract vs Percival
Krystianer vs TBD
Cure vs SHIN
PiGosaur Monday
17h 20m
The PondCast
1d 2h
OSC
1d 3h
Big Brain Bouts
3 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
4 days
BSL 21
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.