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On April 05 2014 05:07 johnnyb211 wrote: every push strat is now ratdota? newsflash, then navi played ratdota for 1,5 years before the term was even created,,, I mean, rat dota existed before the term did, to be fair.
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On April 05 2014 05:03 DavoS wrote: I genuinely worry that Envy's feeding is gonna cause C9 to miss a TI invite
I give c9 a 90% chance of getting a invite to ti4
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I only want to see LIQUID'DEMON for irony's sake.
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Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:08 Nedereden wrote:On April 05 2014 05:07 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 05 2014 05:05 Nedereden wrote:On April 05 2014 05:03 Kznn wrote: Liquid'Demon already please. LOL. Is everyone so short sighted or is it just me? + Show Spoiler +I know. I know. Its me.  No, you just don't understand at all how the next 4 months are going to play out. There are literally no seriously good players available because they are all locked into their teams for TI because valve only lets you get there if you are on a team 4 months in advance. After TI, there will be so many free agents you won't know what to do with them all, and at that point Liquid can look at re-forming. Even if liquid can't make it to TI with their current lineup they don't have better options than jsut picking up demon to play in tournaments for the next while. Heard of Mini???
Mini is good, but overrated. Demon is the best free agent in the west right now.
On April 05 2014 05:08 Kznn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:03 DavoS wrote: I genuinely worry that Envy's feeding is gonna cause C9 to miss a TI invite I give c9 a 90% chance of getting a invite to ti4
Only way I dont see them getting in is if they cut a player.
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On April 05 2014 05:08 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:07 johnnyb211 wrote: every push strat is now ratdota? newsflash, then navi played ratdota for 1,5 years before the term was even created,,, I mean, rat dota existed before the term did, to be fair. how about we go back to calling split pushing split pushing and push strats push strats
whole ratdota term could be just removed from the vocabulary for all i care
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That wasnt rat dota at all
Not saying picking Lycan is better though
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On April 05 2014 05:08 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:07 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 05 2014 05:05 Nedereden wrote:On April 05 2014 05:03 Kznn wrote: Liquid'Demon already please. LOL. Is everyone so short sighted or is it just me? + Show Spoiler +I know. I know. Its me.  No, you just don't understand at all how the next 4 months are going to play out. There are literally no seriously good players available because they are all locked into their teams for TI because valve only lets you get there if you are on a team 4 months in advance. After TI, there will be so many free agents you won't know what to do with them all, and at that point Liquid can look at re-forming. Even if liquid can't make it to TI with their current lineup they don't have better options than jsut picking up demon to play in tournaments for the next while. Heard of Mini???
yes, heard of him. had 6 teams last year, gto kicked out/left from everywhere, never won anything, and has a 40% winrate in competitive dota while playing most of his games against tier 3 teams
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On April 05 2014 05:07 johnnyb211 wrote: every push strat is now ratdota? newsflash, then navi played ratdota for 1,5 years before the term was even created Tell me when theyve won a straight series (after fluff leaving) without ratting in most of the games... Other than them Sneyking games?
Do you srsly think that the Tier1 Teams on LAN arent gonna see thru this?
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On April 05 2014 05:10 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:07 johnnyb211 wrote: every push strat is now ratdota? newsflash, then navi played ratdota for 1,5 years before the term was even created Tell me when theyve won a straight series (after fluff leaving) without ratting in most of the games... Other than them Sneyking games? Do you srsly think that the Tier1 Teams on LAN arent gonna see thru this? You might be the dumbest person on this website.
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Russian Federation40190 Posts
On April 05 2014 05:07 Kuroeeah wrote: Yes ember is more fair than Lycan...what? He is. In ember's case skill translates into hero farming. In lycan's case, if you get necro 3 and/or bkb opponent may as well write gg without further thinking.
On April 05 2014 05:11 DavoS wrote: This thread is kind of silly. Mini is the best unsigned player in the world because.... Sweden? And any strat based around killing buildings is ratting? To be honest, in this case it is just yolo pushing. It could easily translate into ratting, if Liquid would not end up just walking over C9's base in the end.
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This thread is kind of silly. Mini is the best unsigned player in the world because.... Sweden? And any strat based around killing buildings is ratting?
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On April 05 2014 05:09 Fatalize wrote: That wasnt rat dota at all
Not saying picking Lycan is better though Wolf dota!
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On April 05 2014 05:03 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:01 lolfail9001 wrote:On April 05 2014 04:59 wuhan_clan wrote:On April 05 2014 04:58 andyrau wrote:I hate the 6.79 & 6.80 hero meta On April 05 2014 04:57 Kipsate wrote: Demon yolo plays wards bottom how to deal with rhasta & rubick split push tho?? 6.79 was alright cuz everyone was trying out different shit after the huge changes but now its regressing. A lot of teams (C9 and EG in particular) are reverting back to heavy ricing lineups. Lycan is the hero of the patch though. Even his winrate agrees with that. You know, a month ago you were all tears that luna was so overpowered won every game QQQQQQQQQQQ etc. No changes, and now she's seen every so often. 6.80 is an INCREDIBLY GOOD patch. It still isn't properly figured out and the amount of heroes that are being picked across a wide variety of teams is HUGE. People whining about "this meta" or "this patch" are people who just like whining. Watch EG if you want legit picks lol.
Thing is, people dont realize that "FOTM or Current played heroes" not always go along with what the patch might imply.
Lycan 6.79 buffs were way better than 6.80, but he wasnt seen there. AA Its probalby the same.
Treant is having a resurgence without anything to come up with that. Rhasta, a hero that was played so much in TI2 now is here again, without recent buffs.
I feel people just go into the "HATE-TRAIN" without even thinking, ASk the teams to play other shit, not the patch.
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On April 05 2014 05:11 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:07 Kuroeeah wrote: Yes ember is more fair than Lycan...what? He is. In ember's case skill translates into hero farming. In lycan's case, if you get necro 3 and/or bkb opponent may as well write gg without further thinking. so this comes down to some stupid honor code that dictates killing heroes is more honorable than killing buildings?
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On April 05 2014 05:10 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:07 johnnyb211 wrote: every push strat is now ratdota? newsflash, then navi played ratdota for 1,5 years before the term was even created Tell me when theyve won a straight series (after fluff leaving) without ratting in most of the games... Other than them Sneyking games? Do you srsly think that the Tier1 Teams on LAN arent gonna see thru this?
not sure why is this relevant, I was just saying that what they did wasn't ratdota. just two minor remarks: t1 teams failed to stop alliance when they were doing pure ratdota, and C9 is a tier 1 team.
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Lalalaland34500 Posts
Arguing differences between Lycan and Ember is fine but arguing 'which one is more OP' is stupid.
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On April 05 2014 05:08 Nedereden wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:07 Sn0_Man wrote:On April 05 2014 05:05 Nedereden wrote:On April 05 2014 05:03 Kznn wrote: Liquid'Demon already please. LOL. Is everyone so short sighted or is it just me? + Show Spoiler +I know. I know. Its me.  No, you just don't understand at all how the next 4 months are going to play out. There are literally no seriously good players available because they are all locked into their teams for TI because valve only lets you get there if you are on a team 4 months in advance. After TI, there will be so many free agents you won't know what to do with them all, and at that point Liquid can look at re-forming. Even if liquid can't make it to TI with their current lineup they don't have better options than jsut picking up demon to play in tournaments for the next while. Heard of Mini???
Former QBad player? Yeah. He was good with a few heroes. Nothing special. I wouldn't rate his support above Demon.
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On April 05 2014 05:12 Firebolt145 wrote: Arguing differences between Lycan and Ember is fine but arguing 'which one is more OP' is stupid. Ember is waaayy more OP.
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On April 05 2014 05:12 iv~nk~j wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:11 lolfail9001 wrote:On April 05 2014 05:07 Kuroeeah wrote: Yes ember is more fair than Lycan...what? He is. In ember's case skill translates into hero farming. In lycan's case, if you get necro 3 and/or bkb opponent may as well write gg without further thinking. so this comes down to some stupid honor code that dictates killing heroes is more honorable than killing buildings? No, it comes to some stupid honor code, that dictates that actually pressing buttons in right time, rather than just pressing buttons at random time and killing everything with a-move after that is better. That's like bio terran and toss deathball, see?
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On April 05 2014 05:11 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:07 Kuroeeah wrote: Yes ember is more fair than Lycan...what? He is. In ember's case skill translates into hero farming. In lycan's case, if you get necro 3 and/or bkb opponent may as well write gg without further thinking. Show nested quote +On April 05 2014 05:11 DavoS wrote: This thread is kind of silly. Mini is the best unsigned player in the world because.... Sweden? And any strat based around killing buildings is ratting? To be honest, in this case it is just yolo pushing. It could easily translate into ratting, if Liquid would not end up just walking over C9's base in the end. you keep whining about this shit like u are even close to right. Remember luna? She didn't get patched. You just mis-evaluated her in the draft and teams figured out how to play. Lycan has MORE glaring weaknesses than luna, not less.
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