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Parkplayground
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Last Edited: 2016-08-16 14:03:55
August 16 2016 03:32 GMT
#21
update:

Im 3k (well 2.9 to be accurate and for reasons involving under 3k tourneys).

Today, a little past a year after I made my originial help thread, I made something happen that I didnt think was possible so even though mmr is just a number, its a great representation of progress and that is how I gauge it.

That aside, I kind of forgot about this thread and to keep updating it...

well since that isnt very important anyway, some new things have come up.
Things I've been improving/started doing :

mentality part A- I took what nanaoei said and focused on having a different mindset instead of trying to get as good as fast as possible. During this time, I looked at what better players than me do, and I saw finally (after watching TI as well) what I was lacking in my teamfight vs. farming problem. There is almost a mental checklist that people had in order to determine if it was worth going to the fight, but their ability to determine if the criteria is met was a split second decision. I put a majority time on doing that in the past few weeks and I have seen a lot of +25 because of it. Achieving the farm levels I am used to while doing this is going to take much more finessed movements with my effeciency, but I feel that it isnt a priority right now as long as I know I am capable of getting relatively good levels of farm.

Mentality part B- ahw mentioned how important it is to have good decision making and to know that dota is filled with so many decisions that there is always something you can do. I have only had 1 game where I gave up because I thought there was nothing I could do (which is pretty impressive considering the negative teammates/dire position of my team during dozens of games). This has been such a massive fix to my gameplay and it was so simple. I just had a void game a bit ago where all of our lanes got dumpstered with flaming from everyone, but a few good chronos and some pickoffs won us the game.

-slowing down: Ive been so stressed from this game that at one point, I stopped treating it like a game. If I had a bad game , it was would stick with me until I had a good game to counteract it. Realizing that while I enjoy this game more than almost anything ellse i do, its important to remember that it really is for entertainment (until you start getting $$$$) and people have said this before, but its always a little bit more meaningful when you come to the facts yourself. I stopped letting it take over and now I have been more successful which is always a positive.

Edit:

- team choices: Ive already said that i am on a team of irl friends ( me being the only one who isnt an irl friend), and i spent some time talking to birdie about how to approach this since my goals for dota involve competitive play. My issue with the current team is a low level of skill for the team ( me+1 are the only teammates above 2k solo queue with a support at 500 solo queue) which isnt the biggest problem since we actually play decently well for the first time being in organized dota. The real issue lies in the captain who treats everyone like slaves. Too much negativity, zero leadership skills, starts fights in tourney games and acts like a child if he doesnt have the obedience he wants. Normally i wouldnt give a second thought to leaving this team, but I helped form the team and everyone including the captain wants to continue getting better. I also told the captain his what hes doing and how he needs to fix it asap if the team is going to be successful. When i talked to birdie, he gsve me some valuable input on this. The only reason i bring this up is to see if:
A. Anyone has something to contribute

B. Has connections to someone starting a team/ has tryouts, etc that is in the low to mid 3k bracket

Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
August 16 2016 04:38 GMT
#22
Congrats on your ongoing success. The fastest way to improve has always been being positive and being open to critique.

Every match is a problem you need to solve to win, and some (like your void game) will be more difficult than others. The only way to get better is to play them out, so you learn what works and what doesnt.

In terms of winning/losing, remember nobody wins every game and nobody plays at 100% every time. Its ok to lose, just reflect on what you could've done better.
[10:23pm] Gosi: I want to be famous and have many twitter followers and get blowjobs during tournements at the bathroom [10:23pm] Gosi: do i play mnid or support for thhat [10:23pm] Gosi: u tell me
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 06:42:00
August 16 2016 06:40 GMT
#23
i am happy to read that you're doing overall well. sorry to hear about that stress, although it is a pretty common feeling playing a game like this.

if it helps any, whenever i feel bad with anything in life there is always just -something- to snap you right out of it.
you can continue to feel bad about the situation, but most importantly, the episode of strong emotion or stress is essentially over. one of these things could be realizing that you're better off than you were before, or realizing that you have a beautiful life outside of queuing on your computer.
dude, you climbed mmr and have ingame stuff to talk about.

and if you keep it up, your formula will keep up and keep improving until you are suddenly 4k, 5k or more.
it's just a number, and average players start right around or below 4k. which means you have a huge advantage that you've been through all this stuff and understand a lot more about yourself and your play.

no shame, and i hope your stress turns into happiness soon.
because multiple times as i was watching the international, i'd say to myself that i love this game.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-17 06:27:00
August 17 2016 06:22 GMT
#24
Some pointers for the team thing:

1. As a group, come up with 5~10 rules regarding acceptable ingame and out of game behaviour. Make sure everybody has a hand in making it and agrees to the rules so they dont have excuses for not following them.
2. Trust is a 2 way street so make ppl understand that. If u argue about an item build or w.e ingame, give way to ur team mate and reflect in replays later. Ppl learn right decisions when they come to the same conclusion themselves, arguing about it ingame doesnt help.
3. Disputes should be settled out of game. Most ppl suck at taking criticism (this is particularly amplified ingame), so make sure mistakes are focused on not the player. It helps if this is a group activity so ppl dont feel like they're being picked on.
4. Make a plan for team improvement together.
[10:23pm] Gosi: I want to be famous and have many twitter followers and get blowjobs during tournements at the bathroom [10:23pm] Gosi: do i play mnid or support for thhat [10:23pm] Gosi: u tell me
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