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HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
June 13 2014 21:12 GMT
#41
if you dont need the extra movespeed from sny/drums i would just skip those items. it all depends on what enemy heroes you are facing and how the game is going. imo sny is not a good item to get when you cant find space to farm and/or is behind in farm.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
June 13 2014 21:34 GMT
#42
On June 14 2014 03:25 Skyro wrote:
Always seems to me like teams either really know how to deal with LS and he feels underwhelming, or teams don't and he just rolls over people. Or the other team is coordinating Naix bomb initiations really well..

Eul's is so good vs. LS though, dispels OW and gives you MS to kite him.


yup, that's why he'll only be a niche pick in pro matches, but will still be able to stomp (some) pubs. he's very figured out at the moment. especially since all you have to do is pick doom and get an initiation item. the hero is useless at that point.
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Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
June 14 2014 06:35 GMT
#43
On June 14 2014 06:12 HighTimeDotA wrote:
if you dont need the extra movespeed from sny/drums i would just skip those items. it all depends on what enemy heroes you are facing and how the game is going. imo sny is not a good item to get when you cant find space to farm and/or is behind in farm.


Thanks for the reply but you're answer doesn't really help, AC has a lot of big parts so it's hard to farm up without space which is why I was thinking SnY since it's made up of smaller parts, but if you think that it's not the best item to go for what would you recommend?

I know I can skip drums but I like the racecar build, it seems to fit my playstyle, I don't really like passively farming on naix, I prefer to start fighting early and as long as fights are going well I don't have trouble progressing past this point, but if they aren't I have to resort to farming and AC just seems to take so long to finish that by the time I get it the game is sometimes too far gone.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 07:44:05
June 14 2014 07:39 GMT
#44
On June 14 2014 15:35 Myrddraal wrote:
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On June 14 2014 06:12 HighTimeDotA wrote:
if you dont need the extra movespeed from sny/drums i would just skip those items. it all depends on what enemy heroes you are facing and how the game is going. imo sny is not a good item to get when you cant find space to farm and/or is behind in farm.


Thanks for the reply but you're answer doesn't really help, AC has a lot of big parts so it's hard to farm up without space which is why I was thinking SnY since it's made up of smaller parts, but if you think that it's not the best item to go for what would you recommend?

I know I can skip drums but I like the racecar build, it seems to fit my playstyle, I don't really like passively farming on naix, I prefer to start fighting early and as long as fights are going well I don't have trouble progressing past this point, but if they aren't I have to resort to farming and AC just seems to take so long to finish that by the time I get it the game is sometimes too far gone.

armlet if you dont need movespeed will give you your midgame / maelstrom is an ok pushing item / blink if you need to blink on a high priority target / shadowblade for pubstomp pickoff style
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 14 2014 07:41 GMT
#45
theoretically if your team can win from the added push you could go necro3 but thats pretty allin
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Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
June 14 2014 17:23 GMT
#46
On June 14 2014 16:39 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 15:35 Myrddraal wrote:
On June 14 2014 06:12 HighTimeDotA wrote:
if you dont need the extra movespeed from sny/drums i would just skip those items. it all depends on what enemy heroes you are facing and how the game is going. imo sny is not a good item to get when you cant find space to farm and/or is behind in farm.


Thanks for the reply but you're answer doesn't really help, AC has a lot of big parts so it's hard to farm up without space which is why I was thinking SnY since it's made up of smaller parts, but if you think that it's not the best item to go for what would you recommend?

I know I can skip drums but I like the racecar build, it seems to fit my playstyle, I don't really like passively farming on naix, I prefer to start fighting early and as long as fights are going well I don't have trouble progressing past this point, but if they aren't I have to resort to farming and AC just seems to take so long to finish that by the time I get it the game is sometimes too far gone.

armlet if you dont need movespeed will give you your midgame / maelstrom is an ok pushing item / blink if you need to blink on a high priority target / shadowblade for pubstomp pickoff style



Okay cheers, I'll try maelstrom next time, for some reason I used to almost always choose AC over Mjollnir in most situations, but lately I have been mixing it up a bit more and have been quite liking it, of course just as I start to like it they nerf it haha.
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HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
June 14 2014 18:03 GMT
#47
i havnt played naix after the mega mjollnir buffs, does rage dispell the active?
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 14 2014 18:07 GMT
#48
dota2wiki says static charge can be placed on magic immune allies, it doesn't say it doesn't dispel, but you can rage-staticcharge for sure
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HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
June 14 2014 18:13 GMT
#49
thx rolled this as my daily gonna play when i get off work. gonna try a derpy build with sange/reaver + fs/blink + mjollnir (ofcourse not in that progression).
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Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
July 05 2014 20:15 GMT
#50
How do you skill this hero in the safelane as opposed to jungle?
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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-05 20:41:24
July 05 2014 20:41 GMT
#51
On July 06 2014 05:15 Fencar wrote:
How do you skill this hero in the safelane as opposed to jungle?

2-1-2 or 3-1-1 depending on the lane, sometimes that range upgrade on your Open Wounds is really needed. Usually you want to max Rage as soon as possible and after that you start maxing Feast, skill Infest whenever you can obviously.
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Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
July 05 2014 22:25 GMT
#52
Thanks!
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12ozSkilletDota
Profile Joined June 2014
United States76 Posts
July 07 2014 17:46 GMT
#53
On July 06 2014 05:15 Fencar wrote:
How do you skill this hero in the safelane as opposed to jungle?


Its really going to depend on your playstyle and your laning partners. If you have opportunity to be aggressive then the extra range on open wounds is going to be really strong. If you are more on the back foot or they have a lot of nuke damage maxing rage is going to benefit you more. In lane youre rarely going to need more than 1 level in feast and youre going to want to have a point in each of his skills before long. You just need to feel out the lane because its flexible.
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-30 23:03:34
December 30 2014 23:01 GMT
#54
How to ULTIMATE RAT with Lifestealer
Step 1: Farm Phase Boots and Assault Cuirass in addition to your midgame items
Step 2: One or more teammates buys Boots of Travel and Necronomicon
Step 3: Activate Phase and Infest one of your lane creeps.
Step 4: Move it to the opponent's base via their jungle, rather than through a lane
Step 5: Teammate(s) BoT to the infested creep.
Step 6: Consume the infested creep

Result: Your team has multiple heroes inside their base, with backdoor protection disabled, with basically no advance warning compared to pushing a creep wave.
Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
December 31 2014 00:37 GMT
#55
On December 31 2014 08:01 Buckyman wrote:
Infest one of your lane creeps.
Move it to the opponent's base via their jungle, rather than through a lane
Teammate(s) BoT to the infested creep.
Consume the infested creep


Basically like playing Chen and Tinker but less freedom than Chen or with a Helm of the Dominator. Neat little niche tactic and good to put on a core hero for global ganks but I wouldn't hold my breath to use it for ratting.
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Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 03:39:22
December 31 2014 02:28 GMT
#56
Chen/HotD can't disable backdoor protection*. This is the main benefit of Lifestealer instead; you can 'push' tier 3 towers without showing yourself anywhere near a creep wave.

*unless an enemy steals a lane creep and you steal it back.
Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-31 13:56:33
December 31 2014 13:56 GMT
#57
Alright now I get it. My apologies. That's definitely going to be patched definitely if it catches on, don't think that should be intended at all!
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-02 21:26:35
January 02 2015 21:26 GMT
#58
i was curious about a situation i was in earlier today...i really wanted an ac but the huskar on my team purchased one..what can i do for armor in that scenario? they had a tiny and wk and i was getting right clicked for a ton
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 02 2015 21:41 GMT
#59
butterfly or heavens halberd
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 02 2015 22:00 GMT
#60
so opt for evasion? what happens when they get mkb? go heart and raw hp?
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