EPT[Hero] Lifestealer - Page 2
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On June 13 2014 00:19 TheYango wrote: It really depends on the game because how much movespeed/mobility you need on this hero is heavily dependent on both teamcomps Well, in pubs I don't often trust my team to really...lock down properly. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
No matter how bad your team is at locking things down, you probably aren't going to go racecar against a team that's like 4x melee because if they're incapable of kiting you, your primary concern is being able to manfight multiple melee heroes at once. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
The only reason I rememberd that was because HotD is kinda not the worst manfight item on naix since armor  | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On June 13 2014 00:34 TheYango wrote: It still applies, especially since pubs have wider variance in team compositions. No matter how bad your team is at locking things down, you probably aren't going to go racecar against a team that's like 4x melee because if they're incapable of kiting you, your primary concern is being able to manfight multiple melee heroes at once. I dont know, typically if I lose games on this hero, it isn't because I'm getting out man fighted by melee heroes with my racecar build. Typically its because other reasons (i'm playing like an idiot), or they have a SD, Enigma, Bane, and a beast master, or something, which armlet isn't particularly helpful for. I just really don't like armlet after the toggle change. Just my experience thus far. | ||
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HighTimeDotA
Canada1412 Posts
i still get treads if i see my opponents dont have that many fast heroes since naix isnt slow and has open wounds. treads provides alot more burst and works better with proc items like basher mkb lighting hammer. but if they have fast heroes like luna/am i probably go racecar build. | ||
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Yupe
Sweden13 Posts
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Vikeif
126 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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HighTimeDotA
Canada1412 Posts
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On June 13 2014 03:52 synapse wrote: How about blink? I've seen a lot of people have success with blink after armlet (into basher or something). Blink can be legit in some situations, I just can't figure out when those situations are. | ||
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Eternalobi
Canada220 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
On June 13 2014 09:12 Eternalobi wrote: I can't see this hero picked much in this patch. This was a great counter pick to pre nerf alchemist and lycan with the high hp they get from the ult. But now days PA Luna morphling Mirana, these high mobility carry just kites naix all day. And you have to buy mkb to counter their evasion. I dont think naix want to buy mkb its a bad item on naix compared to abyssal. he'll still be a niche pick when combo'd with an aggressive initiator for naix bombs (like storm spirit), but there are other carries that do his job better. MKB isn't bad on naix considering it gives dmg and attack speed, but something like a basher (into abyssal) is better for sure because it gives you strength and boosts your survivability. you can't guarantee that those carries will go for a butterfly either, but I see what you mean for the evasion on PA. the problem is that everyone has figured out how to deal with him AND he's received 2 consecutive nerfs to the CD on rage. he also needs some items that give him armor or he will just be right clicked down in a team fight. there are better carries with better synergy out there right now than naix. | ||
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Mecha King Ghidorah
United States595 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I mean sure if you are snowballing it works but what doesn't? | ||
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Mecha King Ghidorah
United States595 Posts
On June 14 2014 00:38 Sn0_Man wrote: Naix is quite a fast hero innately. Also charge is a super questionable form of initiation compared to a blink buddy. Also having not one but two fat melee heroes that have to right click all fight to be relevant is not good. I mean sure if you are snowballing it works but what doesn't? He's fast?? I've always thought of him as a really slow hero, maybe it is because it is just because he is a super short ranged hero. I've always been able to kite him to hell. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
That said, mobility remains a big issue for naix which is why phase + drums was so big for a long time (burst mobility in fights), and why racecar is still good (phase + SnY, drums optional). Don't forget, theres really 2 parts to "mobility". 1) Getting into the fight. For lifestealer this is his ult. 2) Getting to hit people. For lifestealer this is often open wounds but also either basher/abyssal or move-speed increases are very important here. | ||
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HighTimeDotA
Canada1412 Posts
see sven gets kited lol. naix not so much. still a beast in pubs since nobody really picks to counter things even at high levels (well doom being the exception cuz he gets picked alot nowdays and counters everyone) | ||
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Skyro
United States1823 Posts
Eul's is so good vs. LS though, dispels OW and gives you MS to kite him. | ||
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Myrddraal
Australia937 Posts
Is it probably best to go SnY or some other item smaller than AC if I don't have the space/time to farm? | ||
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