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Varth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States426 Posts
October 29 2014 17:53 GMT
#19581
Doom is definitely still around, he still counters several heroes pretty hard, the most notable being ember
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-29 19:54:35
October 29 2014 19:53 GMT
#19582
Right after necro presses R and the scythe sound starts, i press euls button. What happens or is it even possible to euls out of the ultimate?
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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
October 29 2014 20:33 GMT
#19583
You get stunned at the start of necro's ult, so I don't think that's even possible. Now that you mention it though, I want to know what happens if right after necro ults you, you get Press the Attack or Aphotic Shield put on you, and you euls yourself... (Do those skills even break the necro stun?)
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 29 2014 20:46 GMT
#19584
On October 30 2014 04:53 govie wrote:
Right after necro presses R and the scythe sound starts, i press euls button. What happens or is it even possible to euls out of the ultimate?

By the time the scythe sound starts, the spell is already cast. It has no projectile so once that happens you're stunned. There's no delay for the spell effect as some people believe, it's just that the damage happens when the stun ends--the stun itself is instant.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
October 29 2014 20:51 GMT
#19585
thx both. We didnt know and had a discussion ingame about it.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 30 2014 09:17 GMT
#19586
Does the damage amplification from Orchid and Ancient Seal also amplify Magical Damage?
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
October 30 2014 09:18 GMT
#19587
Orchid deals bonus damage at the end of the duration based on how much damage the target took during the duration, any kind of damage will do AFAIK. And ancient seal only amplifies magical damage.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
October 30 2014 09:25 GMT
#19588
But how does ancient seal actually behave? Does it reduce magic resistance, or does it just amplify magic damage? Or is there really no difference between the two.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 30 2014 12:27 GMT
#19589
There's no difference.
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
October 30 2014 15:29 GMT
#19590
On October 30 2014 18:25 ahswtini wrote:
But how does ancient seal actually behave? Does it reduce magic resistance, or does it just amplify magic damage? Or is there really no difference between the two.

i dont think anything in the game actually reduces magic resistance, everything just amps magic dmg. its kinda the same anyway.

reducing 25% magic resistance wud be the same as amping 33% magic dmg in a mathematical sense.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-30 20:11:36
October 30 2014 15:47 GMT
#19591
On October 31 2014 00:29 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2014 18:25 ahswtini wrote:
But how does ancient seal actually behave? Does it reduce magic resistance, or does it just amplify magic damage? Or is there really no difference between the two.

i dont think anything in the game actually reduces magic resistance, everything just amps magic dmg. its kinda the same anyway.

reducing 25% magic resistance wud be the same as amping 33% magic dmg in a mathematical sense.

because of how the math works thats only true if theres an instance of exactly 25% magic resistance to "remove". Which works great on every hero except meepo and visage.

In the case of meepo, for example, assuming no extra magic resistance a 33% amp results in (1*0.65*1.33)=~86.5% damage taken, or still 13.5% resistance so he only "lost" 21.5% resistance not 25%.

but yeah there are only 2 exceptions.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
October 30 2014 16:47 GMT
#19592
I guess I was thinking about HoN where they had magic armour
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
October 30 2014 20:09 GMT
#19593
On October 31 2014 00:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2014 00:29 ChunderBoy wrote:
On October 30 2014 18:25 ahswtini wrote:
But how does ancient seal actually behave? Does it reduce magic resistance, or does it just amplify magic damage? Or is there really no difference between the two.

i dont think anything in the game actually reduces magic resistance, everything just amps magic dmg. its kinda the same anyway.

reducing 25% magic resistance wud be the same as amping 33% magic dmg in a mathematical sense.

because of how the math works thats only true if theres an instance of exactly 25% magic resistance to "remove". Which works great on every hero except meepo and visage.

In the case of meepo, for example, assuming no extra magic resistance a 33% amp results in (1+.65*1.33)=~86.5% damage taken, or still 13.5% resistance so he only "lost" 21.5% resistance not 25%.

but yeah there are only 2 exceptions.

i meant remove, sorry english 3rd language
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SoylentGamer
Profile Joined August 2014
United States250 Posts
October 30 2014 20:17 GMT
#19594
Can sleight of fist hit invisible units? e.g. techies mines
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
October 30 2014 20:18 GMT
#19595
On October 31 2014 05:17 SoylentGamer wrote:
Can sleight of fist hit invisible units? e.g. techies mines

no
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
October 30 2014 20:24 GMT
#19596
On October 31 2014 05:17 SoylentGamer wrote:
Can sleight of fist hit invisible units? e.g. techies mines

But it can hit units which you can't currently see, as long as they aren't invisible. Also, with cleave you will still hit invisible units, but I have the feeling techies' mines aren't affected by cleave (have to be killed individually). I could be wrong though, I usually don't walk up to techies' mines as ember and start rightclicking
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 30 2014 21:17 GMT
#19597
are mines even units?
I assumed they were structures
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 30 2014 21:32 GMT
#19598
On October 31 2014 06:17 PassiveAce wrote:
are mines even units?
I assumed they were structures

Technically structures are also units--they're assigned the "townhall" type which gives them their corresponding properties.

Remote Mines, Stasis Traps, and Land Mines have the "ward" type which gives them the properties of a ward. They're not structures. They also have the Marker ability which renders them unaffected by certain triggered effects.
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GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
October 31 2014 01:12 GMT
#19599
Does that mean you could target them with quelling blade?
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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
October 31 2014 01:38 GMT
#19600
On October 31 2014 10:12 GtC wrote:
Does that mean you could target them with quelling blade?

Only literal wards can be targeted with quel afaik.
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