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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 12:31:56
October 19 2014 12:31 GMT
#19481
On October 19 2014 12:37 GiveMeYourtTots wrote:
When should I skip midas? I'm starting to think I'm getting addicted to this item. It's getting to the point where I'm almost always getting, like I can't play without not buying it. Yesterday I bought it on clockwerk because for some reason my team wanted me to go mid. I buy it on supports too, bought it cm the other day and got super farmed for a support. On some heroes I buy it pretty much every time I play that hero, like SF, invoker, luna and on others it depends if I get really good farm then I might get it on heroes like ck and weaver. Hell sometimes I get it even thought I had a terrible laning phase. Buy midas because I got farm, bought midas because i got bad farm and need to catch up.

The funny thing is that it somehow seems to work, when I bought it on cm i got bkb agha and did so much damage. I think one reason might be because of the new patch and that almost every game goes late so having the extra lvls as well as gold makes it worth buying it.

Worth noting is that theres a huge difference how midas is punished depending on MMR. In a 5.5k match people generally know when they're ahead and push their advantage to the point where comeback-midases very rarely works out. And being-ahead-midases are kinda "ye sure it helped, but you could probably have skipped it and done just as good anyway". Comparing that to 3k mmr or whatever where people generally will be much worse at punishing midases, you can get away with it much more often.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
October 19 2014 13:46 GMT
#19482
On October 18 2014 23:00 Mafe wrote:
Is Skywrath mage supposed to have a specific accent?


i remember someone asking this around ~1-2 months ago. the answer was "gypsy"
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
DW-Unrec
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
492 Posts
October 20 2014 07:55 GMT
#19483
Is this supposed to be acceptable? I just got placed in low priority for 16 matches because I fed 4 kills before 3 minutes, then I proceeded to lose the game with 18 kills and 7 deaths. Last abandon was more than 15 matches ago. Didn't flame, didn't intentional feed.
hefty
Profile Joined January 2005
Denmark555 Posts
October 20 2014 09:36 GMT
#19484
On October 20 2014 16:55 DW-Unrec wrote:
Is this supposed to be acceptable? I just got placed in low priority for 16 matches because I fed 4 kills before 3 minutes, then I proceeded to lose the game with 18 kills and 7 deaths. Last abandon was more than 15 matches ago. Didn't flame, didn't intentional feed.

Hard to say. You make it sound like they reported you, because they think you played badly. I generelly don't think that's a valid reason to ban someone. However, if you were arrogant/glip about it or gave the impression you were purposely feeding, I can see why you may have deserved a ban.

If I understand the ban correctly, you weren't necessarily punished for this offense alone, but rather for getting too many reports in too short a time span. If that is indeed the case, you may have to change something in your approach.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 20 2014 16:37 GMT
#19485
you can't get low priority for playing poorly. and it's well known that you have to get reported over the course of many games in a row to get put in lpq (i.e. # of reports in a game doesn't matter, consistently being reported once across many games does).
:)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 16:51:47
October 20 2014 16:42 GMT
#19486
On October 21 2014 01:37 synapse wrote:
you can't get low priority for playing poorly

of course you can. You *shouldn't* by the reporting guidelines but you definitely can.
people can report you for whatever the fuck they want and many people feel like reporting for poor play is fine. Or at least, they do it in the heat of the moment regardless of their opinions on it in a vacuum.
There's no outside intervention, the system bans people who get reported consistently.

So the feeding game was the straw that broke the camel's back, if you will. Whatever else was on that camel's back, we will never know. Judging by the length of the LPQ stint though, that camel's back has been broken more than once before.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
October 20 2014 16:50 GMT
#19487
On October 20 2014 16:55 DW-Unrec wrote:
Is this supposed to be acceptable? I just got placed in low priority for 16 matches because I fed 4 kills before 3 minutes, then I proceeded to lose the game with 18 kills and 7 deaths. Last abandon was more than 15 matches ago. Didn't flame, didn't intentional feed.

I guess you've never flamed before either?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 16:54:16
October 20 2014 16:53 GMT
#19488
On October 21 2014 01:42 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 01:37 synapse wrote:
you can't get low priority for playing poorly

of course you can. You *shouldn't* by the reporting guidelines but you definitely can.
people can report you for whatever the fuck they want and many people feel like reporting for poor play is fine. Or at least, they do it in the heat of the moment regardless of their opinions on it in a vacuum.
There's no outside intervention, the system bans people who get reported consistently.

So the feeding game was the straw that broke the camel's back, if you will. Whatever else was on that camel's back, we will never know. Judging by the length of the LPQ stint though, that camel's back has been broken more than once before.

what i meant to say is you cant get lpq by playing poorly in one specific game (as the guy seems to think). but yeah i agree with you.
:)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 20 2014 16:54 GMT
#19489
good point
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
DW-Unrec
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
492 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 18:13:29
October 20 2014 18:08 GMT
#19490
Isn't that supposed to trigger mutes and not 634890 games of low prio though?

2 out of my last 5 games were really shitty. Shitton of deaths, followed by a comeback. I get reported every match because of the server I play in.

Am I supposed to play though 16 matches of low priority? Why can't I get someone to watch 2 minutes of my last 5 matches and realize that I didn't intentional feed?

proof: http://gyazo.com/86e4c04b9873124dd359d18fa4250844
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 18:10:43
October 20 2014 18:10 GMT
#19491
It depends what they report you for
If they feel like ur playing like shit they report u for intentional feed most likely.

I've never been a fan of the system myself but I do find it hard to believe that there are NO legitimate complaints against you yet you have 16 games of low prio stacked up.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
October 20 2014 18:10 GMT
#19492
i never had more then 6 games punishment, somewhere you caught a bug i think.
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DW-Unrec
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
492 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 18:34:13
October 20 2014 18:19 GMT
#19493
On October 21 2014 03:10 Sn0_Man wrote:
It depends what they report you for
If they feel like ur playing like shit they report u for intentional feed most likely.

I've never been a fan of the system myself but I do find it hard to believe that there are NO legitimate complaints against you yet you have 16 games of low prio stacked up.



will work on some images and then you do the judgment by yourself.

EDIT: Actually, no, fuck it. I already said I fed 2 matches, flaming in chat would get me muted, not low prio'd.

Time to give it back to the game! Will pick a hero that scales well in the first 5 minutes, kill someone 3 times and report him for intentional feeding!
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
October 20 2014 19:39 GMT
#19494
I dunno, I have had LOTS of bad feed games and have never got low priority or muted. I also have a 100% (I dont report many but 6/6 or something) sucess rate with my reports being acted on in the last few weeks. No idea why this is haha, but I think the report system as a whole is pretty stupid.

I only report people for VERY bad flaming, or I always report idiots who give up spam chat with those sort of messages, then sell items/feed couriers etc.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
October 20 2014 19:47 GMT
#19495
make a support ticket at valve maybe theyl do something who knows?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
DV G
Profile Joined September 2012
Argentina2339 Posts
October 20 2014 22:22 GMT
#19496
On October 21 2014 03:19 DW-Unrec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 03:10 Sn0_Man wrote:
It depends what they report you for
If they feel like ur playing like shit they report u for intentional feed most likely.

I've never been a fan of the system myself but I do find it hard to believe that there are NO legitimate complaints against you yet you have 16 games of low prio stacked up.



will work on some images and then you do the judgment by yourself.

EDIT: Actually, no, fuck it. I already said I fed 2 matches, flaming in chat would get me muted, not low prio'd.

Time to give it back to the game! Will pick a hero that scales well in the first 5 minutes, kill someone 3 times and report him for intentional feeding!



THIS attitude makes it look like you are either lying to us or you deserve it.

Anyway im no one to judge nor i have the tools.
Go pro or die trying
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 23:23:02
October 20 2014 23:19 GMT
#19497
On October 21 2014 07:22 DV G wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2014 03:19 DW-Unrec wrote:
On October 21 2014 03:10 Sn0_Man wrote:
It depends what they report you for
If they feel like ur playing like shit they report u for intentional feed most likely.

I've never been a fan of the system myself but I do find it hard to believe that there are NO legitimate complaints against you yet you have 16 games of low prio stacked up.



will work on some images and then you do the judgment by yourself.

EDIT: Actually, no, fuck it. I already said I fed 2 matches, flaming in chat would get me muted, not low prio'd.

Time to give it back to the game! Will pick a hero that scales well in the first 5 minutes, kill someone 3 times and report him for intentional feeding!



THIS attitude makes it look like you are either lying to us or you deserve it.

Anyway im no one to judge nor i have the tools.


That doesnt really matter. I have been a retard ingame many times, be it vocal, typing, i swear in a creative way sometimes, or feed when someone dishes my items from coerier. I have been reported so many times on my main account but i never ever got 16 matches in one go as punishment.
I think its a bug which he should report at devforums or he got double reported in lp or something (6-2+6+6=16). Back in the day when punishment was dished out in hours low priority, you could stack punishment almost a year round (ive seen 200+ days low priority). Once you got in low prio, you cant go back, it felt like the event horizon from a black hole, your to far in. Delete the game or make new account
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
October 21 2014 12:59 GMT
#19498
hey

i have question
did the manacost of the second stun of ogremagi (ags update) changes during the game ?
some times it cost 800 mana sometimes less ? wtf ?
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 13:06:06
October 21 2014 13:05 GMT
#19499
it's percentage based on CURRENT (not MAX) mana now
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
October 21 2014 13:24 GMT
#19500
Which is why you should always use unrefined fireblast last
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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