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Liebig
Profile Joined August 2010
France738 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-22 20:06:36
October 22 2014 20:06 GMT
#19521
Saw envy go for an atos, force staff, bkb build on Necro on his stream a few days ago, what's the rationale behind that ? :o
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
October 22 2014 20:09 GMT
#19522
Medusa's ass is just as scary
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
October 22 2014 21:19 GMT
#19523
On October 23 2014 05:06 Liebig wrote:
Saw envy go for an atos, force staff, bkb build on Necro on his stream a few days ago, what's the rationale behind that ? :o


This kind of question is nearly impossible to answer in a vacuum. Someone who actually saw the same game or if you link to it someone might want to watch it and try to answer it.
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2723 Posts
October 22 2014 22:54 GMT
#19524
On October 23 2014 05:06 Liebig wrote:
Saw envy go for an atos, force staff, bkb build on Necro on his stream a few days ago, what's the rationale behind that ? :o


Envy built a bkb?

I don't believe you.
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
October 22 2014 22:54 GMT
#19525
On October 23 2014 05:06 Liebig wrote:
Saw envy go for an atos, force staff, bkb build on Necro on his stream a few days ago, what's the rationale behind that ? :o


^ Basically the above poster's answer, but being Envy, and the fact that it was on his stream, my best guess would be - for the same reason Sing_Sing will go 5 bfury kunkka on his stream.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
October 22 2014 23:07 GMT
#19526
Endless slow with atos = more heartstopper damage
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
October 22 2014 23:33 GMT
#19527
Envy was experimenting with atos on everything for a bit. He was building it like first item on doom multiple games in a row.
Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-23 06:45:10
October 23 2014 06:44 GMT
#19528
On October 22 2014 23:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
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On October 22 2014 23:28 Doomblaze wrote:
On October 22 2014 23:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
On October 22 2014 23:12 es jago wrote:
hello i am new here i want to know how i win rank games and get higher mmr, in league it was just play alot of games and get lucky and u will go up but in here i seem to hover around the same mmr

I recommend grinding nightstalker games for mmr



Hm, im not sure how nightstalker support would work. I guess if you were good enough with him you could pull it off. You'd have to be leaderboard worthy though.

he's pretty close ^_^


only 3 more games! =)

On October 23 2014 08:33 Atreides wrote:
Envy was experimenting with atos on everything for a bit. He was building it like first item on doom multiple games in a row.


with aui on the same team what do u expect?
In Mushi we trust
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
October 23 2014 11:42 GMT
#19529
what item build would be best versus huskar as SF in mid lane?

given equal block etc.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
October 23 2014 14:17 GMT
#19530
On October 23 2014 20:42 Andre wrote:
what item build would be best versus huskar as SF in mid lane?

given equal block etc.


Are you asking for what starting items you should go? Or items in general against a huskar?

Honestly, sf's damage output in the mid-game does pretty well against huskar who is generally weak to physical damage. In the starting laning phases though, you're going to get wrecked if you take tons of spear harass. Lucky for you - you outrange him, so your best weapon there isn't your build, but your positioning. Don't stay too far up, raze if you need to to get last hits, build up your necromastery charges and once you get enough, you can really just manfight the husk.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
October 23 2014 14:33 GMT
#19531
I don't think you can itemise specifically against huskar, unless I dunno you want to get an early ghost scepter...
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
October 23 2014 14:45 GMT
#19532
On October 23 2014 23:33 ahswtini wrote:
I don't think you can itemise specifically against huskar, unless I dunno you want to get an early ghost scepter...


I really don't think that's even an option. By the time you get a ghost scepter, he'll be 6, and if you ghost, he'll just jump on you. Now you can't right click him, you can't raze him and you can't run because you're a slow useless sf so he'll just stick on you until you come out of ghost. And if you're counting on your team to kill the husk for you, you've rendered yourself completely useless as the mid sf.
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
October 23 2014 16:29 GMT
#19533
How to toggle Lone druid ulti to dodge stun / attack? I know that I'm only invulnerable for like 0.5 sec instead of the full 2 sec transformation. But can the enemy still right click me during transformation?

Even if they can, 0.5 sec invul every 2 secs in early-mid game means I can continually dodge 1 every 2 attacks -- is that correct? Just seems a bit too good to be true.
Best or nothing.
Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
October 23 2014 16:32 GMT
#19534
I think you just have to use your superior physical damage on huskar, early on you're quite squishy so if he jumps you you're probably dead, should just focus on getting the return kill. Getting a fast bkb negates the flaming spears damage, rendering huskar fairly useless.
fresh chops
Varth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States426 Posts
October 23 2014 17:00 GMT
#19535
If huskar ults you and both of you are at full hp you are dead and can't kill him til bkb. If you were able to harass him down before the jump you have a decent shot at trading
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 23 2014 17:31 GMT
#19536
On October 24 2014 01:29 Quochobao wrote:
How to toggle Lone druid ulti to dodge stun / attack? I know that I'm only invulnerable for like 0.5 sec instead of the full 2 sec transformation. But can the enemy still right click me during transformation?

Even if they can, 0.5 sec invul every 2 secs in early-mid game means I can continually dodge 1 every 2 attacks -- is that correct? Just seems a bit too good to be true.

Yeah but for half of that you will be at reduced armor and hp. Basically you only transform dodge if its 100% the only way you can live while escaping. Its really easy with a little practice.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 23 2014 21:05 GMT
#19537
LD's ult transformation is super bugged to be way better than it should be anyway. It's a full disjoint rather than stun dodging.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
October 23 2014 21:48 GMT
#19538
On October 23 2014 08:33 Atreides wrote:
Envy was experimenting with atos on everything for a bit. He was building it like first item on doom multiple games in a row.


I like it on death prophet too. Think it has more impact then a bloodstone if you combine it with an euls.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-23 22:49:14
October 23 2014 22:48 GMT
#19539
lvl 6 wr ult good now with low mana cost? or more stun still better?

On October 24 2014 06:48 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2014 08:33 Atreides wrote:
Envy was experimenting with atos on everything for a bit. He was building it like first item on doom multiple games in a row.


I like it on death prophet too. Think it has more impact then a bloodstone if you combine it with an euls.

basically everything has more impact than bloodstone lol
:)
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
October 23 2014 22:51 GMT
#19540
On October 24 2014 07:48 synapse wrote:
lvl 6 wr ult good now with low mana cost? or more stun still better?

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 06:48 govie wrote:
On October 23 2014 08:33 Atreides wrote:
Envy was experimenting with atos on everything for a bit. He was building it like first item on doom multiple games in a row.


I like it on death prophet too. Think it has more impact then a bloodstone if you combine it with an euls.

basically everything has more impact than bloodstone lol

Yes but how many items vend for as much as bloodstone, hm?
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