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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
October 13 2014 23:29 GMT
#19421
On October 14 2014 07:52 evilfatsh1t wrote:
qop has nothing that helps her survive besides blink, and blink is often used to initiate or position yourself in fights. therefore the most important thing to know is you never blink into the middle of anything. blink around the edges of the teamfights and throw spells down from the sides. you dont need to land 5 man screams and 5 man sonic waves. just make sure youre killing supports asap or hitting the most important targets. once you throw your spells down back off if they start to focus you or just take potshots from the side until your blink comes off cd again. this is probably the most difficult aspect of playing qop. the difference between a good qop player and a bad qop player comes in how well they use their blink and how well they position themselves in fights.


Really worth emphasizing in the ton of text above me (it's a great post, read it all). Players will often make the mistake of trying to go for "the big play", blink in, scream on 5, fire the sonic wave and then immediately die. They'll often then look to their team and go, "teaaam?" You're muuch more useful to the team if you can stay alive and fire multiple screams in a fight, throw some right clicks and only hit your ult on 2 or 3 than to pop everything and die before your team can even do anything.
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
October 14 2014 01:51 GMT
#19422
If the game is even and is dragging out long you should be pushing the side lanes hard and keeping track of enemy movement and just blink into forest if anything seems fishy. A couple of hits and a scream clears a creep wave so you can usually clear it and blink away before any reactions. Rinse and repeat.
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
October 14 2014 01:53 GMT
#19423
with aghs, im never afraid to use my ult in the late game to clear the creeps
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me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
October 14 2014 03:17 GMT
#19424
Another thing I want to add as a Qop player, is to make sure you have good mana management, nothing worst than blinking in for combo only to realise you don't have enough mana.

Also, you need to learn the scream range, I see so many players whiffing screams at crucial moments and completely missing a kill. Reverse is also true, going too close to scream and then getting initiated on.

+1 to ALWAYS have a TP scroll on you. QOP is such a good counter initiator.

Item choice for her is VERY situational based on the game state. Never go into a game thinking you'll buy certain items. Hell, sometimes at minute 10 i'll plan for one item, and then minute 15 get something else completely.
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
October 14 2014 18:52 GMT
#19425
Thanks for all your help y'all! I definitely was the type to blink close (not in the middle), but then have no escape, didn't harass enough, and my item build sorta sucked. I've been watching Wagamama and I'll be watching a few more. Then I'll report back.

Thanks again.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 14 2014 19:07 GMT
#19426
Regarding legion commander ult change (no longer disables passives), does this change her optimal build at all? E.G. early crit or basher no longer bad?
:)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 19:12:43
October 14 2014 19:12 GMT
#19427
"Early" crit and basher are still bad
later on those items are now buyable/good tho
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 14 2014 19:14 GMT
#19428
The item it provides most practical benefit for is Halberd.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 14 2014 19:17 GMT
#19429
It also makes MKB a lot more important in many situations
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les
Profile Joined February 2010
143 Posts
October 14 2014 21:30 GMT
#19430
How is the multicast chance of Ogre Magi calculated?

Is it 60%+25%+12,5%=97,5% total or is it a flat 60% (assuming lvl 16).
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
October 14 2014 21:47 GMT
#19431
On October 15 2014 06:30 les wrote:
How is the multicast chance of Ogre Magi calculated?

Is it 60%+25%+12,5%=97,5% total or is it a flat 60% (assuming lvl 16).

Chance to cast at least twice: 60%
Chance to cast at least three times: 25%
Chance to cast at least four times: 12.5%
it says AT LEAST
it prolly rolls for 12.5% if it doesnt then u can get x3, x2, x1 so it rolls 25% if it doesnt u can get x2, x1 so it rolls for 60% if it doesnt its x1
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 14 2014 21:54 GMT
#19432
if u rolled it like that beesa u'd have like 80% chance to proc lol.

But yes the point is "at least" so its 60% to multicast not 97.5%.

The actual chance (at level 16) is
1x: 40%
2x: 35%
3x: 12.5%
4x: 12.5%

Not too sure on the exact mechanics of the roll but the result is as seen above. No PRD afaik.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2804 Posts
October 14 2014 22:19 GMT
#19433
You'd think it would just roll out of 1000, then have less than or equal to 125 be 4x, between 126 and 250 be 3x, etc.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
October 15 2014 10:24 GMT
#19434
How do you make it such that you pause the game if you disconnect?
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
October 15 2014 10:35 GMT
#19435
Don't think you can. I've never seen it at least.
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
October 15 2014 12:51 GMT
#19436
I was watching the CDEC players playing and every time they disconnect, they will pause the game too. Not sure if its a rage pause or they can bind it.
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
JD.
Profile Joined September 2014
Australia250 Posts
October 15 2014 13:03 GMT
#19437
On October 15 2014 21:51 LennX wrote:
I was watching the CDEC players playing and every time they disconnect, they will pause the game too. Not sure if its a rage pause or they can bind it.


Valve recently implemented (like yesterday or something) a automatic pause for competitive matches when a player disconnects.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 15 2014 13:06 GMT
#19438
On October 15 2014 22:03 JD. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 21:51 LennX wrote:
I was watching the CDEC players playing and every time they disconnect, they will pause the game too. Not sure if its a rage pause or they can bind it.


Valve recently implemented (like yesterday or something) a automatic pause for competitive matches when a player disconnects.

Oh, really? I guess that's a response to that C9/Alliance game from WCA.
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LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4570 Posts
October 15 2014 14:01 GMT
#19439
On October 15 2014 22:03 JD. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 21:51 LennX wrote:
I was watching the CDEC players playing and every time they disconnect, they will pause the game too. Not sure if its a rage pause or they can bind it.


Valve recently implemented (like yesterday or something) a automatic pause for competitive matches when a player disconnects.


Thanks! Guess mere mortals like us cant use it.
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
October 15 2014 18:17 GMT
#19440
Update on QoP: Y'all rock.

This is the first time I've gotten to play since I posted on here. I went 14-1 with 8 assists. 204 last hits in a 39 minute game (550 gold/minute, 650 xp/min).Finished the game with scythe, orchid, treads,bottle, aghs. Followed all of the advice that was given here and I absolutely killed it. Needless to say, we won. I even had fun playing with her.

Thanks everyone. I'll definitely be back next time I get stuck on a hero
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