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Fleetfeet
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FHDH
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
So for Jugg, a Daedalus would roll first (25% chance) then if it missed, his passive would roll. Since the lower multiplier crit ONLY ROLLS if the first one missed, it has a lower chance overall of proccing (since it only rolls 75% of the time in this case). For PA, obviously hers rolls first and then any item based one whenever the PA crit misses. (I guess you could say that they both always roll, but if they both proc only the higher multiplier one occurs. Its functionally the same outside of PRD concerns, which do exist). | ||
TheYango
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SoylentGamer
United States250 Posts
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Kupon3ss
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cabarkapa
United States1015 Posts
Was it changed in Dota 1? or they just didn't make it exactly the same in dota 2? It seemed like a bug with Warcraft 3, so not sure if they actually want to carry it over. | ||
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rebdomine
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On September 23 2014 05:21 SoylentGamer wrote: What is Oracle, how is he played, and how does he work? I've read the wiki and playdota, but he still is very confusing, and i'd like clarification. The OP from this reddit thread does a good job explaining his skill synergy: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/23wi72/lets_talk_about_oracle/ | ||
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Mecha King Ghidorah
United States595 Posts
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On September 25 2014 05:07 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote: How do you show public MM so I can use my Dotabuff?? Settings -> Options -> Expose Public Match Data ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1XcBYuX.png) | ||
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njt7
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On September 26 2014 04:05 njt7 wrote: When does agi treads give more dps for a str hero? Never. Or under only a very rare circumstance: When getting 8 more agility increases your attack speed proportionally more than 8 damage would increase your average damage. It would happen when your damage is at least over 130(100% attackspeed base, 30% IAS from power treads) higher than your agility. So if your hero has 40 agility and only power treads, you would need to have 170 damage(at that point you get the same dps from str and agi). Only if you have even higher damage(and NO attack speed increase beside power treads) would it be better for dps to switch to agi. And because you begin with 100% attackspeed, then add other boni and your agility, it mostly happens when you buy a lot of damage items(like divine rapier) with few or no attackspeed items. Or you play Tiny and skill his ulti, because it both increases his damage a lot and slows his own attackspeed below 100% | ||
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Buckyman
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Jinxed
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njt7
Sweden769 Posts
On September 26 2014 04:23 Mataza wrote: Never. Or under only a very rare circumstance: When getting 8 more agility increases your attack speed proportionally more than 8 damage would increase your average damage. It would happen when your damage is at least over 130(100% attackspeed base, 30% IAS from power treads) higher than your agility. So if your hero has 40 agility and only power treads, you would need to have 170 damage(at that point you get the same dps from str and agi). Only if you have even higher damage(and NO attack speed increase beside power treads) would it be better for dps to switch to agi. And because you begin with 100% attackspeed, then add other boni and your agility, it mostly happens when you buy a lot of damage items(like divine rapier) with few or no attackspeed items. Or you play Tiny and skill his ulti, because it both increases his damage a lot and slows his own attackspeed below 100% Did I understand you correct if the answer is when you have 131 more dmg then you have agility? Thank you for explaining dota to me when I just asked a very simple question I want to know the breakpoint when agi treads gives more dps to a str hero then str treads does. Sometimes information is superfluous. This time it made your answer harder to understand. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Generally i'd take the raw HP + dmg most of the time over the IAS + armor but w/e. | ||
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njt7
Sweden769 Posts
On September 26 2014 05:58 Sn0_Man wrote: All u have to do is math when u want 8 attackspeed more than 8 dmg. Its generally when ur at >100 more dmg than attackspeed. Thats it. Generally i'd take the raw HP + dmg most of the time over the IAS + armor but w/e. Even when you are killing neutrals? | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
I think the difference is so small at that point that it is just better to think about what is going on in the game rather than tread swapping to agility. | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On September 23 2014 15:17 rebdomine wrote: The OP from this reddit thread does a good job explaining his skill synergy: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/23wi72/lets_talk_about_oracle/ Is the ult damage applied as the damage type it originates from or is it tallied up and then applied as pure damage (or hp removal) at the end of the duration? | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 26 2014 06:28 Logo wrote: Is the ult damage applied as the damage type it originates from or is it tallied up and then applied as pure damage (or hp removal) at the end of the duration? It's a triggered untyped HP decrease. Reductions are applied on the incoming damage when the damage is first received because False Promise is a triggered heal and not damage prevention. False Promise applies the triggered heal for each damage instance taken, and stores the actual HP loss for each instance. It then reapplies each instance of HP loss individually at the end. If they would be lethal, the target is killed with a real instance of 100 million physical damage (standard for HP removal since HP removal itself isn't lethal and needs a "real" damage instance to kill the unit). | ||
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