On September 18 2014 00:41 Elyvilon wrote:
Why do pros rarely build AC on DP, preferring items like Shivas or Heart? Does AC aura not help exorcism ghosts or something?

It does help, but only the minus armor part.
Whereas shivas makes her far more durable and makes it far easier to chase targets down.
Things that are more important to a DP than -5 armor on the enemy.

Fencar

United States2694 Posts

September 17 2014 15:48 GMT

#19182

On September 18 2014 00:41 Elyvilon wrote:
Why do pros rarely build AC on DP, preferring items like Shivas or Heart? Does AC aura not help exorcism ghosts or something?

My guess is that there are better heroes to build AC on, such as Doom, Bristleback, Lycan, etc. The attack speed from AC isn't especially helpful on DP in particular, and Shivas and Heart both have high impact on her because they give her more survivability with the active and passive aura on Shivas and the regen + massive health pool increase on Heart.

And as the above poster mentioned, Shivas definitely gives you chase as well.

Comeh

United States18919 Posts

September 17 2014 16:58 GMT

#19183

It's worth nothing that Shivas is also ridiculously cheap for how good it is, but basically what fencar said.

SoylentGamer

United States250 Posts

September 17 2014 21:15 GMT

#19184

Is Exort-Invoke first 2 levels effective on Invoker?

BluemoonSC

SoCal8933 Posts

September 17 2014 23:14 GMT

#19185

that all depends on whether or not you plan on utilizing sunstrike before needing the extra regen from quas orbs. if your team is saying that you might want to have sunstrike ready, do it. if not, get the quas point before spending a point on invoke.

Xxazn4lyfe51xX

United States976 Posts

September 18 2014 02:00 GMT

#19186

You might also consider how easy/hard your lane is. If it's a really hard lane where you actually need that +str and regen from quas to survive, then you're going to have to do it. If it's an easy lane and you have a good amount of regen, you might consider exort-invoke even if your side-lanes aren't telling you you'll need it. Could come in handy. If you're not under pressure or getting ganked, the trip from level 2-3 won't take too long and you can pick up your quas then.

If you want to be safe though, exort-quas first.

Doomblaze

United States1292 Posts

September 18 2014 07:33 GMT

#19187

On September 18 2014 06:15 SoylentGamer wrote:
Is Exort-Invoke first 2 levels effective on Invoker?

I do it if im mid unless i get ganked at level 1 and need the extra regen or something. You dont want to have orbs on quas unless you've taken damage, and as a 600 range hero that rarely happens in the first few creep waves. The sunstrike can land you FB, which is huge towards getting boots or midas if you have a strong kill lane to use it in.

FHDH

United States7023 Posts

September 18 2014 07:54 GMT

#19188

I don't play Invoker but I've seen it recommended to take Invoke at level 2 because it will be off cooldown for a second spell immediately when you hit level 3. But obviously the above considerations apply.

Tuco

China200 Posts

September 18 2014 08:59 GMT

#19189

How does sleight of fist interact with auras? Say another person on your team has vlads and have of the enemies within the sleight of fist aoe are in the area of effect of the vlads and the other half aren't?

SilverSkyLark

Philippines8437 Posts

September 18 2014 14:03 GMT

#19190

I saw this yt vid a couple of weeks back, it was an invoker mirror match all mid and they were just casting sunstrike in the same spot to get kills.

I can't find it now. Is anyone familiar with that vid (and possbily the link)? thanks!

found it, here's the vid if anyone was interested

Fwizzz

Philippines4420 Posts

September 18 2014 18:10 GMT

#19191

S4 said that you can turn directiona magnus before using rp. I've tried in lobby but i can't pull it off.
Does anybosy know?

Unleashing

Denmark14978 Posts

September 18 2014 18:17 GMT

#19192

What S4 most likely talked about is that people you RP end up infront of you so if you turn around before using RP skewering people back becomes a lot easier/quicker to do.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

September 18 2014 20:46 GMT

#19193

Sometimes you can't get away with it against heroes with fast stuns/silences because they'll cast before you turn-RP.

What makes S4's use of the technique exceptional isn't that he does it, it's that he knows when he can get away with it.

SoylentGamer

United States250 Posts

September 18 2014 21:17 GMT

#19194

If a hero is being purged, by press the attack, or dark pact for example, will they be able to walk through icepath?

Nightmarjoo

United States3360 Posts

September 18 2014 22:25 GMT

#19195

I've seen tide walk through as kracken removed the ice path's stun.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8943 Posts

September 18 2014 23:49 GMT

#19196

On September 19 2014 03:10 Fwizzz wrote:
S4 said that you can turn directiona magnus before using rp. I've tried in lobby but i can't pull it off.
Does anybosy know?

easy
you click behind you and press rp straight away. you will cast rp while your hero is turning
just make sure you have fast fingers
this is particularly useful in mid lane when you have 2 lvls in skewer (ie. lvl 6)
casting rp while facing their tower means you have to cover more ground with skewer.
if the enemy comes towards the creeps and you can turn around and rp, youve already covered another ~200 range
skewering the enemy from that position into your tower becomes much easier

pedrlz

Brazil5234 Posts

September 19 2014 00:21 GMT

#19197

do you guys know any audio from a teamspeak/skype from pro/semipro team like the ones that valve said they would release after TI4?

could even be a scrims if it wasn't too clowning

wuhan_clan

United States5609 Posts

September 19 2014 07:02 GMT

#19198

On September 19 2014 09:21 pedrlz wrote:
do you guys know any audio from a teamspeak/skype from pro/semipro team like the ones that valve said they would release after TI4?

could even be a scrims if it wasn't too clowning

Here is one example from MLG Columbus. If you search "MLG Columbus Dota 2 Turtle Beach Team Speak" or something like that you can find the other ones from the event.

These are the only team communication audio released from any major team/event. Although Valve said they would release team audio, the teams had requested that they not be released (for good reason too). MLG Columbus was the first and probably the last time we'll ever get to hear team comms.

ahswtini

Northern Ireland22213 Posts

September 19 2014 07:48 GMT

#19199

let's just kill that fucking bitch