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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 16 2014 17:55 GMT
#19161
On September 17 2014 02:17 gaiabulbanix wrote:
I'm stuck on ~3.3k mmr - any ideas as to what to do to go up?

Play better.

For a better answer maybe provide more information.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
gaiabulbanix
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Thailand76 Posts
September 16 2014 18:13 GMT
#19162
On September 17 2014 02:55 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 02:17 gaiabulbanix wrote:
I'm stuck on ~3.3k mmr - any ideas as to what to do to go up?

Play better.

For a better answer maybe provide more information.


I guess the main thing I was wondering is:

1.) What hero(s) to play when solo that will make my games more consistent

2.) How to play/what to pick when playing with a 2/3 stack of ~2.5-3k mmr, what heroes to pick to minimize chances of losing
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 18:35:14
September 16 2014 18:31 GMT
#19163
If you think you are actually much better than the people you play with, then I remember a recommendation to play death prophet mid/rhasta/drow/some other good tower pusher, go mid and just go pushing when neither your team nor the other team can coordinate anything useful to do. Use your superior game sense to not get ganked and/or get objectives/farm more/tp into teamfights your team can win/get other stuff done.
I am not actually an expert on that, as I consider myself being ranked close to the level I currently play at.

If you think you are ranked at your actual current skill level, then there is not really a magic solution. The matchmaking system will try to match you against similar stacks and teams (high mmr/low mmr/low mmr +2 inbetween mmr solo players, or what configuration you have going).

You can however pick heroes that are more consistent/are good at playing from behind.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
gaiabulbanix
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Thailand76 Posts
September 16 2014 18:57 GMT
#19164
On September 17 2014 03:31 Mataza wrote:
If you think you are actually much better than the people you play with, then I remember a recommendation to play death prophet mid/rhasta/drow/some other good tower pusher, go mid and just go pushing when neither your team nor the other team can coordinate anything useful to do. Use your superior game sense to not get ganked and/or get objectives/farm more/tp into teamfights your team can win/get other stuff done.
I am not actually an expert on that, as I consider myself being ranked close to the level I currently play at.

If you think you are ranked at your actual current skill level, then there is not really a magic solution. The matchmaking system will try to match you against similar stacks and teams (high mmr/low mmr/low mmr +2 inbetween mmr solo players, or what configuration you have going).

You can however pick heroes that are more consistent/are good at playing from behind.


It's not that I think I'm better than people I play with, I'm just trying to find the best way to improve overall and reduce streaky-ness like winning 5+ in a row, then losing 5+ in a row.

Is there a hero where if mid is taken/taking turns mid with friends when playing in a 2/3-stack that can go mid and dual off/safe lane as well (the most common setup in the pubs we play in).
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
September 16 2014 21:27 GMT
#19165
If you're the mek carrier as DP, when do you build the mek? I've been building it after phase bottle wand.
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 16 2014 21:33 GMT
#19166
thats probably the right time. if your gonna build a mek you better do it early because it only gets worse the longer the game goes.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12185 Posts
September 16 2014 23:10 GMT
#19167
On September 17 2014 03:57 gaiabulbanix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 03:31 Mataza wrote:
If you think you are actually much better than the people you play with, then I remember a recommendation to play death prophet mid/rhasta/drow/some other good tower pusher, go mid and just go pushing when neither your team nor the other team can coordinate anything useful to do. Use your superior game sense to not get ganked and/or get objectives/farm more/tp into teamfights your team can win/get other stuff done.
I am not actually an expert on that, as I consider myself being ranked close to the level I currently play at.

If you think you are ranked at your actual current skill level, then there is not really a magic solution. The matchmaking system will try to match you against similar stacks and teams (high mmr/low mmr/low mmr +2 inbetween mmr solo players, or what configuration you have going).

You can however pick heroes that are more consistent/are good at playing from behind.


It's not that I think I'm better than people I play with, I'm just trying to find the best way to improve overall and reduce streaky-ness like winning 5+ in a row, then losing 5+ in a row.

Is there a hero where if mid is taken/taking turns mid with friends when playing in a 2/3-stack that can go mid and dual off/safe lane as well (the most common setup in the pubs we play in).


Void is a good hero. Can do all lanes, just need levels and some farm.
PA is the same.
Puck/clock/qop fit off lane/mid well.
Techies can do anything (except last hit against tree).
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
September 17 2014 02:18 GMT
#19168
On September 17 2014 03:57 gaiabulbanix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 03:31 Mataza wrote:
If you think you are actually much better than the people you play with, then I remember a recommendation to play death prophet mid/rhasta/drow/some other good tower pusher, go mid and just go pushing when neither your team nor the other team can coordinate anything useful to do. Use your superior game sense to not get ganked and/or get objectives/farm more/tp into teamfights your team can win/get other stuff done.
I am not actually an expert on that, as I consider myself being ranked close to the level I currently play at.

If you think you are ranked at your actual current skill level, then there is not really a magic solution. The matchmaking system will try to match you against similar stacks and teams (high mmr/low mmr/low mmr +2 inbetween mmr solo players, or what configuration you have going).

You can however pick heroes that are more consistent/are good at playing from behind.


It's not that I think I'm better than people I play with, I'm just trying to find the best way to improve overall and reduce streaky-ness like winning 5+ in a row, then losing 5+ in a row.

Is there a hero where if mid is taken/taking turns mid with friends when playing in a 2/3-stack that can go mid and dual off/safe lane as well (the most common setup in the pubs we play in).


mirana and doom are pretty good swiss army knife heroes

can do almost any role with either and both can have very high game impact
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2851 Posts
September 17 2014 05:26 GMT
#19169
On September 17 2014 03:57 gaiabulbanix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 03:31 Mataza wrote:
If you think you are actually much better than the people you play with, then I remember a recommendation to play death prophet mid/rhasta/drow/some other good tower pusher, go mid and just go pushing when neither your team nor the other team can coordinate anything useful to do. Use your superior game sense to not get ganked and/or get objectives/farm more/tp into teamfights your team can win/get other stuff done.
I am not actually an expert on that, as I consider myself being ranked close to the level I currently play at.

If you think you are ranked at your actual current skill level, then there is not really a magic solution. The matchmaking system will try to match you against similar stacks and teams (high mmr/low mmr/low mmr +2 inbetween mmr solo players, or what configuration you have going).

You can however pick heroes that are more consistent/are good at playing from behind.


It's not that I think I'm better than people I play with, I'm just trying to find the best way to improve overall and reduce streaky-ness like winning 5+ in a row, then losing 5+ in a row.

Is there a hero where if mid is taken/taking turns mid with friends when playing in a 2/3-stack that can go mid and dual off/safe lane as well (the most common setup in the pubs we play in).


Viper, Razor, Pugna, Necrolyte, Dragon Knight and Shadowfiend are the heroes that come immediately to mind as strong core mids as well as functional cores in dual lane setups.

Lich and Warlock are the only two that come to mind as workable mid / support crossovers.

Those are what come to mind off the top of my head!
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
September 17 2014 08:38 GMT
#19170
On September 17 2014 14:26 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 03:57 gaiabulbanix wrote:
On September 17 2014 03:31 Mataza wrote:
If you think you are actually much better than the people you play with, then I remember a recommendation to play death prophet mid/rhasta/drow/some other good tower pusher, go mid and just go pushing when neither your team nor the other team can coordinate anything useful to do. Use your superior game sense to not get ganked and/or get objectives/farm more/tp into teamfights your team can win/get other stuff done.
I am not actually an expert on that, as I consider myself being ranked close to the level I currently play at.

If you think you are ranked at your actual current skill level, then there is not really a magic solution. The matchmaking system will try to match you against similar stacks and teams (high mmr/low mmr/low mmr +2 inbetween mmr solo players, or what configuration you have going).

You can however pick heroes that are more consistent/are good at playing from behind.


It's not that I think I'm better than people I play with, I'm just trying to find the best way to improve overall and reduce streaky-ness like winning 5+ in a row, then losing 5+ in a row.

Is there a hero where if mid is taken/taking turns mid with friends when playing in a 2/3-stack that can go mid and dual off/safe lane as well (the most common setup in the pubs we play in).


Viper, Razor, Pugna, Necrolyte, Dragon Knight and Shadowfiend are the heroes that come immediately to mind as strong core mids as well as functional cores in dual lane setups.

Lich and Warlock are the only two that come to mind as workable mid / support crossovers.

Those are what come to mind off the top of my head!

I've had success with KotL mid but can't say I recommend it in general. But that's speaking as solo queue. What's the logic behind Lich mid?
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 17 2014 10:02 GMT
#19171
On September 17 2014 17:38 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 14:26 Fleetfeet wrote:
On September 17 2014 03:57 gaiabulbanix wrote:
On September 17 2014 03:31 Mataza wrote:
If you think you are actually much better than the people you play with, then I remember a recommendation to play death prophet mid/rhasta/drow/some other good tower pusher, go mid and just go pushing when neither your team nor the other team can coordinate anything useful to do. Use your superior game sense to not get ganked and/or get objectives/farm more/tp into teamfights your team can win/get other stuff done.
I am not actually an expert on that, as I consider myself being ranked close to the level I currently play at.

If you think you are ranked at your actual current skill level, then there is not really a magic solution. The matchmaking system will try to match you against similar stacks and teams (high mmr/low mmr/low mmr +2 inbetween mmr solo players, or what configuration you have going).

You can however pick heroes that are more consistent/are good at playing from behind.


It's not that I think I'm better than people I play with, I'm just trying to find the best way to improve overall and reduce streaky-ness like winning 5+ in a row, then losing 5+ in a row.

Is there a hero where if mid is taken/taking turns mid with friends when playing in a 2/3-stack that can go mid and dual off/safe lane as well (the most common setup in the pubs we play in).


Viper, Razor, Pugna, Necrolyte, Dragon Knight and Shadowfiend are the heroes that come immediately to mind as strong core mids as well as functional cores in dual lane setups.

Lich and Warlock are the only two that come to mind as workable mid / support crossovers.

Those are what come to mind off the top of my head!

I've had success with KotL mid but can't say I recommend it in general. But that's speaking as solo queue. What's the logic behind Lich mid?

Sacrifice/nova spam gets you an exp advantage and harasses the enemy back to fountain.
Not really working since bottle crowing has become a thing.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
September 17 2014 10:02 GMT
#19172
bottle crowing is hard in pubs tho
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Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 11:19:20
September 17 2014 11:13 GMT
#19173
It's hard if you don't wrestle for it. I flame like a little pig in pubs if they don't let me have priorities as a mid player, but most things go my way because my accent is funny when I ask for things. + Show Spoiler +
Seriously my Scouse accent and "up courier you stupid cunt" has gotten it so many times because it made most Euros confused by the sound of it.

If that doesn't work you could always preemptively say "let me cor pls im mid" or "up cor at 3min pls" before you need it, doesn't hurt honestly.

tl;dr ask and you might receive.
Erase and improve
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 11:43:45
September 17 2014 11:43 GMT
#19174
On September 17 2014 20:13 Surprise.820 wrote:
It's hard if you don't wrestle for it. I flame like a little pig in pubs if they don't let me have priorities as a mid player, but most things go my way because my accent is funny when I ask for things. + Show Spoiler +
Seriously my Scouse accent and "up courier you stupid cunt" has gotten it so many times because it made most Euros confused by the sound of it.

If that doesn't work you could always preemptively say "let me cor pls im mid" or "up cor at 3min pls" before you need it, doesn't hurt honestly.

tl;dr ask and you might receive.


Unfortunately "cyka blyat" *drop bottle somewhere in the woods* is a thing these days. I play a lot of mid, but I've given up playing heroes that rely on the courier, because you will never get it when you need it. The safelane carry needs another iron branch you know!
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
September 17 2014 12:33 GMT
#19175
Wands, man. Wand recipes should not be carryable by courier.
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
September 17 2014 13:15 GMT
#19176
Counter picking or atleast picking something that has some kind of advantage versus a couple of heroes you are facing. If you dont know what heroes are good against what this might be a good time to start thinking about it. No this wont give you consistency in the short term. But it might minimize your risk of losing in the long run.
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
September 17 2014 14:07 GMT
#19177
On September 17 2014 14:26 Fleetfeet wrote:
Viper, Razor, Pugna, Necrolyte, Dragon Knight and Shadowfiend are the heroes that come immediately to mind as strong core mids as well as functional cores in dual lane setups.

Lich and Warlock are the only two that come to mind as workable mid / support crossovers.

Those are what come to mind off the top of my head!


Skywrath? Venomancer?
parkin
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
1091 Posts
September 17 2014 14:57 GMT
#19178
Do blade mail work against venomancer wards and visage familiars?
mostly harmless
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 17 2014 15:34 GMT
#19179
Veno is supposed to but ward damage vs. blademail is bugged.

Visage familiars are magic immune so they don't take damage back from blademail.
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
September 17 2014 15:41 GMT
#19180
Why do pros rarely build AC on DP, preferring items like Shivas or Heart? Does AC aura not help exorcism ghosts or something?
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