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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 20 2014 12:33 GMT
#18861
On August 20 2014 02:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't think it's that far separated from q/e invoker in lane now that cold snap got nerfed so hard u prolly just have to go bottle with w/e.

I mean alacrity is 45 mana for 20 dmg/ias 9 out of every 15 seconds which seems pretty good in lane.

Ideal scenario is still just safelaning as WE because you'd rather just freefarm a MoM or Midas rather than get shit like bottle.
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CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
August 21 2014 11:14 GMT
#18862
Might have been asked before, but I was really wondering, why you dont see solo SS being played.
Or is it just me not noticing it?

It was quite a strong hero for solo mid in HoN back in the days, but here I haven't seen him beeing played like that at all.
Does it just not work or is he just unfortunate that no pro teams picked him up for that role recently?
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 12:56:40
August 21 2014 11:24 GMT
#18863
On August 21 2014 20:14 CCow wrote:
Might have been asked before, but I was really wondering, why you dont see solo SS being played.
Or is it just me not noticing it?

It was quite a strong hero for solo mid in HoN back in the days, but here I haven't seen him beeing played like that at all.
Does it just not work or is he just unfortunate that no pro teams picked him up for that role recently?


I was like: "But Shadow Fiend is 95% mid".

Rhasta is very easy to gank in middle, it's pretty big gamble, especially in pubs, when supports don't have clue how to protect their mid with vision. + He has Lina-level animation, so every so-called mid-hero will destroy him most likely, until he bottlecrows and starts to spam ether shock.
+ He's slow as fuck.

On the other side of the coin, ofc, fast levels, fast wards and free towers possibility look good.
If you can escape laning with fast blink, it's basically free win but it rarely happens.

Damn, i miss Pollywog Priest.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 21 2014 12:41 GMT
#18864
Rhasta's animation is not Lina-level. 0.3 is one of the best attack points in the game.

285 ms and 500 range are issues though, and both of these got buffed in HoN.
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
August 21 2014 12:48 GMT
#18865
On August 21 2014 20:14 CCow wrote:
Might have been asked before, but I was really wondering, why you dont see solo SS being played.
Or is it just me not noticing it?

It was quite a strong hero for solo mid in HoN back in the days, but here I haven't seen him beeing played like that at all.
Does it just not work or is he just unfortunate that no pro teams picked him up for that role recently?

Mostly not meta friendly. Its legit, but with the recent heavy emphasis on 5man pushing and strong teamfight contribution, there really isnt much difference between a lvl 6-7 support SS or a 9-10 mid SS. The extra levels of hex wont make much of a difference, its just the wards you're after. And you're fine getting them on a support some minutes later than you would on a mid.

Also the meta shifted to farm heavy mids. SS mid can be a great playmaker/ganker on top of his pushing power, but if the game drags on for a bit he inevitably wont be able to contribute as much as a right clicking mid.
Irratonalys
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany902 Posts
August 21 2014 16:08 GMT
#18866
what happens when Lion with an active blademail uses finger of death on a nyx with active spiked carapace?
The futures uncertain , but the end is always near
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 21 2014 16:12 GMT
#18867
On August 22 2014 01:08 Irratonalys wrote:
what happens when Lion with an active blademail uses finger of death on a nyx with active spiked carapace?

They both take 1x Finger of Death damage.

If u wanna know who dies first if it would kill both, then I'm not sure.

Now, if nyx with carapace dagon'd a blademailed enemy, then funny things start happening but I'm pretty sure he'd shoot the enemy, who'd take and reflect the damage both, then nyx carapace would reflect, then blademail would reflect so nyx would take 1x dmg and opponent would take 2x dmg.
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Drozeisnotmyname
Profile Joined February 2014
United States33 Posts
August 21 2014 18:15 GMT
#18868
What's a good hero to practice map awareness with that's not Tinker?
I want to learn someone new, but that's a skill I still want to work on.
I shall be victorious... eventually.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 21 2014 18:33 GMT
#18869
On August 22 2014 03:15 Drozeisnotmyname wrote:
What's a good hero to practice map awareness with that's not Tinker?
I want to learn someone new, but that's a skill I still want to work on.

All ganking mids, nature'prophet, anyone with a tp scroll
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
August 21 2014 20:09 GMT
#18870
On August 22 2014 03:15 Drozeisnotmyname wrote:
What's a good hero to practice map awareness with that's not Tinker?
I want to learn someone new, but that's a skill I still want to work on.


mapo
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
August 21 2014 21:29 GMT
#18871
treant
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 21 2014 23:51 GMT
#18872
4142 actually has similar solo kill potential to 1442. you do around 1k damage with max mana regardless of build, the pull just gives your team a chance to catch up and keeps people from casting spells
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2550 Posts
August 22 2014 00:06 GMT
#18873
On August 22 2014 01:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 01:08 Irratonalys wrote:
what happens when Lion with an active blademail uses finger of death on a nyx with active spiked carapace?

They both take 1x Finger of Death damage.

If u wanna know who dies first if it would kill both, then I'm not sure.

Now, if nyx with carapace dagon'd a blademailed enemy, then funny things start happening but I'm pretty sure he'd shoot the enemy, who'd take and reflect the damage both, then nyx carapace would reflect, then blademail would reflect so nyx would take 1x dmg and opponent would take 2x dmg.


I THINK nyx would die first in the first scenario, because blademail applies its damage return before it applies the damage it's returning from (See - Bloodcyka blademail heals otherwise fatal instances of damage if blademail's return kills opponent)
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 12:50:02
August 22 2014 12:43 GMT
#18874
On August 22 2014 09:06 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 01:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 22 2014 01:08 Irratonalys wrote:
what happens when Lion with an active blademail uses finger of death on a nyx with active spiked carapace?

They both take 1x Finger of Death damage.

If u wanna know who dies first if it would kill both, then I'm not sure.

Now, if nyx with carapace dagon'd a blademailed enemy, then funny things start happening but I'm pretty sure he'd shoot the enemy, who'd take and reflect the damage both, then nyx carapace would reflect, then blademail would reflect so nyx would take 1x dmg and opponent would take 2x dmg.


I THINK nyx would die first in the first scenario, because blademail applies its damage return before it applies the damage it's returning from (See - Bloodcyka blademail heals otherwise fatal instances of damage if blademail's return kills opponent)


Turns out this is relatively simple to test. Just tried it:

Blademailed lion casts finger of death on nyx assassin with carapace on:
Lion dies, nyx assassin lives without taking any damage.

Just goes to show you, you never know with dota =p

Also tested the dagon blademail carapace interaction:

Nyx with dagon and carapace active dagons blademailed enemy:
Both take 1x dagon damage, carapace does not stun enemy.

In otherwords, it doesn't appear that carapace considers blademail an instance of damage.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 18:30:32
August 22 2014 18:11 GMT
#18875
is blink dagger naix legit or is it awful? I randomed him in a game and due to shitty picks from my team i was forced to jungle, i farmed myself a dagger and went ganking with brown boots and dagger. We won the game because our offlane invoker carried hard but i was doing alright for myself because the game was rather easy iam not sure if this is a legit way to play naix.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 22 2014 19:31 GMT
#18876
Blink is a very reasonable situational item choice for Naix.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 19:38:43
August 22 2014 19:31 GMT
#18877
On August 23 2014 03:11 idonthinksobro wrote:
is blink dagger naix legit or is it awful? I randomed him in a game and due to shitty picks from my team i was forced to jungle, i farmed myself a dagger and went ganking with brown boots and dagger. We won the game because our offlane invoker carried hard but i was doing alright for myself because the game was rather easy iam not sure if this is a legit way to play naix.

There are some situations where its pretty good.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/834020527

For example, in this game naix picked up a blink after he got abyssal, broke my linkens and abyssalled me and tried to kill me before i could get away (it worked a few times). Its good if you have no way to get into fights via teammates (why WK didn't get a blink, I have no idea).
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
August 22 2014 20:02 GMT
#18878
Blink is op enough to be good on every hero
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2014 20:03 GMT
#18879
On August 23 2014 05:02 Kupon3ss wrote:
Blink is op enough to be good on every hero

Like AM. Especially AM.
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Drozeisnotmyname
Profile Joined February 2014
United States33 Posts
August 22 2014 20:30 GMT
#18880
When is it recommended I try ranked? When I can play every hero?
I shall be victorious... eventually.
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