EPTOops, edited.
funfact: each armlet toggle counts as a heal, and gives u ~1k hp after the ulti. do it multiple times and u nvr die
not sure if its intended tho
Jesus christ I thought the hero sounded OP enough as it is.
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lestye
United States4208 Posts
Oops, edited. funfact: each armlet toggle counts as a heal, and gives u ~1k hp after the ulti. do it multiple times and u nvr die not sure if its intended tho Jesus christ I thought the hero sounded OP enough as it is. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On July 04 2014 02:39 ChunderBoy wrote: not sure but i think it just adds up total regen/heal multipled by 2 and substracts dmg taken then sees if ur hp is below 0 or not? funfact: each armlet toggle counts as a heal, and gives u ~1k hp after the ulti. do it multiple times and u nvr die not sure if its intended tho I'm gonna go on a not very big limb and say it isnt' | ||
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NeoRussia
Canada381 Posts
On July 03 2014 22:47 ChunderBoy wrote: i like to think that this is my best hero i think midas is laughable, thats like getting midas on AM. but i still go it sometimes like 10% of the games where i feel its needed i go treads/aquila/perseverance/stick or wand the timing for this is like 8min get a bottle if u have to. and bottlecrow a lot, even if on safelane. the secret to morph is to waveform EVERY camp and EVERY creepwave. u shud make shud u dont run out of mana for a ~3-5 man gank while doing this. u can do stuff like getting a camp to <325 hp and waveforming to the next one. always use int treads on waveform . stay on high agi all the time, if ure good enough u can get away with having ~800hp for a good portion of the game. buy bkb if u have to skadi isnt as good as ppl think it is butterfly ONLY against really really heavy autoattackers that dont get MKB like antimage. linkens>eblade>manta is the usual build linkens + eblade timing is around 24 minutes ur bkb shoud come after or before manta satanic is better than skadi (way better, if u wanna know why ill go into more details) if u want that extra umphh while chasing enemies do what i call a double replicate. enemy is 1.5k range from u? waveform is on cd? or u want to surprise him real quick? just replicate him and go to replicate immediately and kill him fast. i dont think morph will ever have problems against non-stats buying semi-hard carries like: lifestealer,jug,pa,void... these heroes exist to be countered by morph. u will have much bigger problems against stats buying / illusion-based carries like: AM, naga, TB... AM is so ridiculous against morph, and its ez to play around getting replicated. i wud say he has a ~10min window to just bully morph wherever he is at mid game. Naga is nice to replicate... free radiance, but if u somehow get caught in net and diffu2 illusions hitting u, u have problems. morph has more problems against supports/utilities than carries like: Lion, Lina, Bane, Tide, ET especially lion, hex-dagger initations with manadrain and finger is too much, be careful and make sure u have faster reactions than him lina is weaker but similar bane wrecks morph pretty hard with grip bcoz it drains mana persec and morph is prolly morphing to str during grip = even more mana lost. tide anchor smash 60% lost dmg. morph pretty much gets all his auto dmg from agi ET aura is too much to deal with, u need like a BKB on urself, vlads+ac on team, satanic etc.. in safelane morph is a rly good 1v1 laner. and gets much much better with bottle clinkz/weaver lose to him easily on offlane. surprisingly i found morph vs timbersaw is a free win for morph, u get freefarm+kills, there is so much room for outplaying timbersaws with morph ability and a magic stick 1v1ing sturdier melee heroes like tide and potentially centaur is much harder clockwerk isnt that bad to 1v1 against just annoying and can go either way? in mid u just bottlecrow and spam wave, u need to get pooled rly badly tho morphs range sucks ass so he will get into a lot of trades. make sure u come out on top against 600 range heroes that can abuse that at lvl 1-2 u will end up having much less cs, learn to control creepwaves by aggroing. also in fights plz use adaptive every 10seconds, ive seen some ppl use it only with eblade and kinda forget about it. reminder replicating viper = free win, corrosive skins chain off of each other replicating lycan = u get all his auras, feral impulse free 30% dmg and attackspeed, vlads and ac Thanks for the tips, but I feel like I do most of this already. My usual pattern safelane is waveform a creep wave then go pull a camp, get it low, pull it close to another camp and waveform into the other one. on mid I bottle crow a lot, and at second nighttime I waveform a creep wave and stack a camp a few times when on radiant, the camp that's near the cliff. Then I waveform up the cliff with full agi when its not safe to lane mid and finish all the creeps from the cliff. Question: why are you against midas on morphling? A lot of high level players seem to say that its almost mandatory on him, because of morphling's level and farm requirements before he turns into a useful teamfight carry. Why do you choose specific items on morphling? Most of the time I tend to go the standard linken's eblade, otherwise I go travels first for split pushing power, always getting ring of aquilla. I like to go bottle even safe lane a lot as well. When I need to fight early I go linkens into bkb, then satanic or manta, sometimes butterfly against a lot of autoattack heroes. Would you get AC against ET? or is it overkill and bkb is enough? Here's an average morphling game: http://dotabuff.com/matches/756500965 average 20 min linkens timing, no midas. I don't really know what can be done to win the majority of games on morphling, maybe you can let me know. I don't think its possible to get eblade linkens in 24 in any realistic pub scenario, in most games you can't take both lane farm + jungle, in this one a contested situation means its even less than just lane farm. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12248 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On July 04 2014 04:52 Excalibur_Z wrote: How do you have the mana to sustain such frequent use of waveform early game? Is int tread/perseverance really enough? I would doubt it. Erm, did you read his post? Bottle-crow non-stop. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12248 Posts
On July 04 2014 04:54 Sn0_Man wrote: Erm, did you read his post? Bottle-crow non-stop. Even then, a full bottle is only going to regen enough for a waveform and a half. I actually did forget he mentioned bottle crow but it doesn't seem like it would have that large an impact. You also end up using the courier pretty much exclusively for yourself, and it moves so slowly with an empty bottle. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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HighTimeDotA
Canada1412 Posts
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NeoRussia
Canada381 Posts
On July 04 2014 05:13 HighTimeDotA wrote: bottlecrowing 24/7 in solo q pubs is like a dream. more times than not you will get some guy who buys tangos/wand/bracer/boots and jacks the courier. I know right? Just played a game where I was actually able to bottle crow! I was so happy! http://dotabuff.com/matches/756562095 hit the 21 min eblade linkens timing, except with midas. Would be nice if someone could comment on my efficiency. | ||
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ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
On July 04 2014 04:09 NeoRussia wrote: Thanks for the tips, but I feel like I do most of this already. My usual pattern safelane is waveform a creep wave then go pull a camp, get it low, pull it close to another camp and waveform into the other one. on mid I bottle crow a lot, and at second nighttime I waveform a creep wave and stack a camp a few times when on radiant, the camp that's near the cliff. Then I waveform up the cliff with full agi when its not safe to lane mid and finish all the creeps from the cliff. Question: why are you against midas on morphling? A lot of high level players seem to say that its almost mandatory on him, because of morphling's level and farm requirements before he turns into a useful teamfight carry. Why do you choose specific items on morphling? Most of the time I tend to go the standard linken's eblade, otherwise I go travels first for split pushing power, always getting ring of aquilla. I like to go bottle even safe lane a lot as well. When I need to fight early I go linkens into bkb, then satanic or manta, sometimes butterfly against a lot of autoattack heroes. Would you get AC against ET? or is it overkill and bkb is enough? Here's an average morphling game: http://dotabuff.com/matches/756500965 average 20 min linkens timing, no midas. I don't really know what can be done to win the majority of games on morphling, maybe you can let me know. I don't think its possible to get eblade linkens in 24 in any realistic pub scenario, in most games you can't take both lane farm + jungle, in this one a contested situation means its even less than just lane farm. ur farming pattern looks alright i see midas as 2 main things: - as a comeback item if ure rly far behind and it doesnt matter what other item u get coz ure going to keep losing fights and dying to ganks with any other item thats around the same cost. - an item for semi-carries, spacemakers, xp-hungry supports that need to stay relevant as the game goes on... but midas on these kind of heroes shud nvr be rushed. get basic stats items first, or a 2kish gold core item. i dont see midas as a: im a hardcarry with free farm let me get extra 60gpm by midasing this epic creep XD... this is rly rly dumb if i see a guy with 3 branches brown boots and midas, im ganking him rly rly hard and ruining his day... rushing midas like most pub safelaners do means u cant even win ur safelane and u depend way too much on support being there for u so u dont get completely rekt. not rushing midas also gives breathing room for supports to be actually useful elsewhere on the map. this still doesnt mean i wont get a midas sometimes just to get more farmed than usual  , if u get a fb and all lanes win then why not.what do u mean i go specific items? most of the times i just go w.e i feel like will give me the highest chance of winning the game. bkb is needed against et, AC is rly good and u shud prolly get it, if not atleast ur team shud have ac+vlads+meka. i mostly focus on blowing up ET first in fights. ill replicate just on top of him to kill him first. save shotgun for him etc... idk, im not going to watch ur replay... but maybe u dont apply pressure while u farm? sometimes when ppl start farming, they have no presence whatsoever, push the lane / hit the tower / force enemies to react to you... etc...? make some space like that... it helps the whole team On July 04 2014 04:52 Excalibur_Z wrote: How do you have the mana to sustain such frequent use of waveform early game? Is int tread/perseverance really enough? I would doubt it. aquila bottle int treads stick/wand replicate+tp it all adds up. when u start running low on hp/mana but in a safe way... do [Allies]: CM COME TOP I NEED REPLICATE!!! [Allies]: THX CM NOW GIVE ME TP!!! you can also plan ur farming route such that u run out of mana and get low on hp at the last hardcamp next to ur base so that u heal up and tp back to lane just in time to confront a creepwave. its not hard, its needs practice and foresight. | ||
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Drozeisnotmyname
United States33 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
That said, there's nothing wrong with having a favourite hero or 3 that you really enjoy playing and play a lot. | ||
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Drozeisnotmyname
United States33 Posts
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NeoRussia
Canada381 Posts
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Drozeisnotmyname
United States33 Posts
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HighTimeDotA
Canada1412 Posts
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JoeHannes
Germany207 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On July 04 2014 07:00 Drozeisnotmyname wrote: How many heroes should I try to completely master? I really love Tinker, Tide, and Brew, but I'm screwed every time someone picks a silence hero. Should I just build around it, or expand my hero pool? If I should learn more, have any suggestions for who to try out? I mean the way I see it, most heroes are screwed by silence, so you should build around it by learning how to deal with it in general game terms. Basically what Sn0_Man was saying about game sense and experience. | ||
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
On July 04 2014 07:39 Drozeisnotmyname wrote: Alright, I'll try more. Have any recommendations for a fun hero? One that I won't get sick of too quickly? I hav eto chime in here and say Centaur. For some reason I didn't really like him before I played him (don't really like his model) but my god if you like high action with impact throughout the game that's the hero to go for. Yes he falls off versus BKBs but you'll have sooo much fun up until then :D | ||
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