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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 19:44:11
July 02 2014 19:29 GMT
#18241
On July 03 2014 04:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
The only thing Sticky napalm specifically doesn't work with is radiance. In Dota 2 it's hard coded. In Dota 1 I believe sticky napalm actually just doesn't work with damage ticks below a certain value which radiance doesn't surpass.

It doesn't work with Urn, for example. I believe it doesn't work with any HP removal spell, or stuff that doesn't trigger Blink, salves, etc., from experience in AD, but others don't apply to Batrider.

The coding is simply not very straightforward. Poison sting is Magical, but doesn't trigger Blink, and doesn't work with Sticky Napalm. OoV (which also doesn't work with with sticky napalm for Batrider) is an orb and breaks salves. It's just weird.
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
July 03 2014 01:04 GMT
#18242
On July 03 2014 04:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
The only thing Sticky napalm specifically doesn't work with is radiance. In Dota 2 it's hard coded. In Dota 1 I believe sticky napalm actually just doesn't work with damage ticks below a certain value which radiance doesn't surpass.

It was also hard-coded to work with firefly even though it was below the threshold iirc.
Road to 6sange
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
July 03 2014 02:52 GMT
#18243
On July 03 2014 02:25 Buckyman wrote:
Does HP Removal count?


Urn, necro aura (others I'm sure) should count for assists
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
July 03 2014 06:39 GMT
#18244
Visage is not picked because every team is in love with either a greedy farming #4, or mirana. Also this whole obsession with wombo combo isn't doing visage and favours.
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
July 03 2014 09:39 GMT
#18245
Possibly a stupid question but is it possible to shift queue Elder Spirit spirit to say 3 visible enemy heroes that are near each other so that as it touches one it goes to the next and next?
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 03 2014 11:06 GMT
#18246
On July 03 2014 04:29 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 04:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
The only thing Sticky napalm specifically doesn't work with is radiance. In Dota 2 it's hard coded. In Dota 1 I believe sticky napalm actually just doesn't work with damage ticks below a certain value which radiance doesn't surpass.

It doesn't work with Urn, for example. I believe it doesn't work with any HP removal spell, or stuff that doesn't trigger Blink, salves, etc., from experience in AD, but others don't apply to Batrider.

The coding is simply not very straightforward. Poison sting is Magical, but doesn't trigger Blink, and doesn't work with Sticky Napalm. OoV (which also doesn't work with with sticky napalm for Batrider) is an orb and breaks salves. It's just weird.

oov shouldnt break salves, the damage tick is too low
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
NeoRussia
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-03 12:24:07
July 03 2014 12:23 GMT
#18247
What's the most effective way to play morphling in trench pubs? I like feel you always need midas because the hero sucks at anything but surviving and pushing creep waves so you're constantly playing from behind, you lose more than half your games before the 25 minute mark whether you win your lane or not so finishing linken's sphere is out of the question unless you get freefarm, and that's what you need to cut waves and stall the game, no other item really works. I can't believe I picked this hero to win 10 games with, solid 25% winrate over 35 games.
#BUFFEARTH
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
July 03 2014 12:56 GMT
#18248
Anyone know what day the Offering to the Aegis is collected? Says every week, but not which day.
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lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
July 03 2014 12:57 GMT
#18249
I think it's happened on Fridays EST for me?
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
July 03 2014 13:47 GMT
#18250
On July 03 2014 21:23 NeoRussia wrote:
What's the most effective way to play morphling in trench pubs? I like feel you always need midas because the hero sucks at anything but surviving and pushing creep waves so you're constantly playing from behind, you lose more than half your games before the 25 minute mark whether you win your lane or not so finishing linken's sphere is out of the question unless you get freefarm, and that's what you need to cut waves and stall the game, no other item really works. I can't believe I picked this hero to win 10 games with, solid 25% winrate over 35 games.


i like to think that this is my best hero

i think midas is laughable, thats like getting midas on AM. but i still go it sometimes like 10% of the games where i feel its needed

i go treads/aquila/perseverance/stick or wand
the timing for this is like 8min
get a bottle if u have to. and bottlecrow a lot, even if on safelane.

the secret to morph is to waveform EVERY camp and EVERY creepwave. u shud make shud u dont run out of mana for a ~3-5 man gank while doing this.
u can do stuff like getting a camp to <325 hp and waveforming to the next one.
always use int treads on waveform
.
stay on high agi all the time, if ure good enough u can get away with having ~800hp for a good portion of the game.

buy bkb if u have to
skadi isnt as good as ppl think it is
butterfly ONLY against really really heavy autoattackers that dont get MKB like antimage.
linkens>eblade>manta is the usual build
linkens + eblade timing is around 24 minutes
ur bkb shoud come after or before manta
satanic is better than skadi (way better, if u wanna know why ill go into more details)

if u want that extra umphh while chasing enemies do what i call a double replicate.
enemy is 1.5k range from u? waveform is on cd? or u want to surprise him real quick?
just replicate him and go to replicate immediately and kill him fast.

i dont think morph will ever have problems against non-stats buying semi-hard carries like:
lifestealer,jug,pa,void... these heroes exist to be countered by morph.
u will have much bigger problems against stats buying / illusion-based carries like:
AM, naga, TB...
AM is so ridiculous against morph, and its ez to play around getting replicated. i wud say he has a ~10min window to just bully morph wherever he is at mid game.
Naga is nice to replicate... free radiance, but if u somehow get caught in net and diffu2 illusions hitting u, u have problems.

morph has more problems against supports/utilities than carries like:
Lion, Lina, Bane, Tide, ET
especially lion, hex-dagger initations with manadrain and finger is too much, be careful and make sure u have faster reactions than him
lina is weaker but similar
bane wrecks morph pretty hard with grip bcoz it drains mana persec and morph is prolly morphing to str during grip = even more mana lost.
tide anchor smash 60% lost dmg. morph pretty much gets all his auto dmg from agi
ET aura is too much to deal with, u need like a BKB on urself, vlads+ac on team, satanic etc..

in safelane
morph is a rly good 1v1 laner. and gets much much better with bottle
clinkz/weaver lose to him easily on offlane.
surprisingly i found morph vs timbersaw is a free win for morph, u get freefarm+kills, there is so much room for outplaying timbersaws with morph ability and a magic stick
1v1ing sturdier melee heroes like tide and potentially centaur is much harder
clockwerk isnt that bad to 1v1 against just annoying and can go either way?

in mid
u just bottlecrow and spam wave,
u need to get pooled rly badly tho
morphs range sucks ass so he will get into a lot of trades. make sure u come out on top
against 600 range heroes that can abuse that at lvl 1-2 u will end up having much less cs, learn to control creepwaves by aggroing.

also in fights plz use adaptive every 10seconds, ive seen some ppl use it only with eblade and kinda forget about it.

reminder replicating viper = free win, corrosive skins chain off of each other
replicating lycan = u get all his auras, feral impulse free 30% dmg and attackspeed, vlads and ac
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 03 2014 14:12 GMT
#18251
beesa dropping knowledge bombs
so why satanic ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
July 03 2014 14:36 GMT
#18252
On July 03 2014 23:12 Erasme wrote:
beesa dropping knowledge bombs
so why satanic ?

u can still get skadi in easier games but u shud rly know when satanic is mandatory over skadi...
late game morph scenario in teamfights is something like
get jumped get 123123 disables and spells cast on u , and u start morphing str, blahblah fight goes on, u morph some more str etc...
satanic gives u the option to almost nvr morph str, or only morph very little of it.
this means that over the period of the teamfight u will be preserving ur agi and ur dps.
its not uncommon to see a 4k hp morphling by the end of a lategame teamfight doing no dmg and having no attackspeed. satanic just makes u have more agi for a longer time meaning u get more dps.
u can always go skadi in games without big teamfights or disables and be epic with ur mana/stats and slow.
also bkb+satanic is one of the best combos a late game carry can have. its better than an aegis.
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Chezus
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands427 Posts
July 03 2014 15:20 GMT
#18253
Does Clinkz's Death Pact work on Illusions, like say, a Naga or a PL Illusion?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 03 2014 15:32 GMT
#18254
On July 04 2014 00:20 Chezus wrote:
Does Clinkz's Death Pact work on Illusions, like say, a Naga or a PL Illusion?

It only works on creeps. The non-magic-immune kind of creeps. Note that LD's spirit bear is "ancient" and also doesn't qualify even if it isn't magic immune.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 03 2014 16:36 GMT
#18255
that makes a lot of sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-03 17:10:14
July 03 2014 17:08 GMT
#18256
Yup, pretty much everything Chunder said, I agree with (Though, I choose between skadi, butterfly, and manta each game based on the situation, I don't count any of the items out.) I don't build satanic enough though.

surprisingly i found morph vs timbersaw is a free win for morph, u get freefarm+kills, there is so much room for outplaying timbersaws with morph ability and a magic stick

Surprises me though.
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-03 17:40:10
July 03 2014 17:23 GMT
#18257
This is a Dota 1 question, but does anyone know how healing and damage is calculated after edit:oracle's ult ends? Does it process every source of damage and healing as lots of ticks, or does it multiply the healing and compare it to the damage you took and your current health to see if you die ?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
July 03 2014 17:24 GMT
#18258
On July 04 2014 02:23 lestye wrote:
This is a Dota 1 question, but does anyone know how healing and damage is calculated after his ult ends? Does it process every source of damage and healing as lots of ticks, or does it multiply the healing and compare it to the damage you took and your current health to see if you die ?

What the hell are you referring to?
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 03 2014 17:26 GMT
#18259
Oracle's ultimate.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-03 17:40:52
July 03 2014 17:39 GMT
#18260
On July 04 2014 02:23 lestye wrote:
This is a Dota 1 question, but does anyone know how healing and damage is calculated after his ult ends? Does it process every source of damage and healing as lots of ticks, or does it multiply the healing and compare it to the damage you took and your current health to see if you die ?

not sure but i think it just adds up total regen/heal multipled by 2 and substracts dmg taken then sees if ur hp is below 0 or not?
funfact: each armlet toggle counts as a heal, and gives u ~1k hp after the ulti. do it multiple times and u nvr die
not sure if its intended tho
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