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On April 10 2013 10:21 wooozy wrote: speaking of rhasta, can his wards break ta's meld like furion can with sprout Don't believe so. Rhasta's wards place themselves around any units they are on top of, unlike Sprout, which pushes the units around the trees.
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Hi there, does anyone knows if when you own a manta style you can use it, then use refresher orb then use it again for a total of 4 simutaneous illu ?
Thx.
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As an ex-sc2 spectator (and still a passionate fan of players like HuK, HerO and NesTea)is there a streamer who streams constantly who is a great personality similar in concept to ROOTDestiny, or Day[9], and what is the main progaming streams (like Gomtv for sc and the GSL every now and again). Link me up if you can, and thanks anyway. I love you in advance. Thankyou very much!
EDIT: Got carried away... IN THE DOTA 2 COMMUNITY
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On April 10 2013 21:22 Kerm wrote: Hi there, does anyone knows if when you own a manta style you can use it, then use refresher orb then use it again for a total of 4 simutaneous illu ?
Thx. I'm fairly certain the manta illusions get replaced.
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On April 10 2013 21:41 MightyHammer wrote: As an ex-sc2 spectator (and still a passionate fan of players like HuK, HerO and NesTea)is there a streamer who streams constantly who is a great personality similar in concept to ROOTDestiny, or Day[9], and what is the main progaming streams (like Gomtv for sc and the GSL every now and again). Link me up if you can, and thanks anyway. I love you in advance. Thankyou very much!
EDIT: Got carried away... IN THE DOTA 2 COMMUNITY Singsing, notail, merlini, dendi, puppey. The main progaming streams are probably tobi wan kenobi and BeyondTheSummit
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On April 10 2013 21:41 MightyHammer wrote: As an ex-sc2 spectator (and still a passionate fan of players like HuK, HerO and NesTea)is there a streamer who streams constantly who is a great personality similar in concept to ROOTDestiny, or Day[9], and what is the main progaming streams (like Gomtv for sc and the GSL every now and again). Link me up if you can, and thanks anyway. I love you in advance. Thankyou very much!
EDIT: Got carried away... IN THE DOTA 2 COMMUNITY Destiny would be singsing, day9 would be merlini. Many other Dota streams are worth watching as well. For gomtv equivalents you can just look at the calendar on the right sidebar, all the tournament streams should be there.
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I just played a game with Lone Druid vs a Puck + Drow Ranger lane, and is it me or should Drow's slow not last 7 seconds on the Spirit Bear? It was impossible to get hits on the Drow and harassing with my Bear, or even last hitting, was a giant pain!
If I ever face a Drow in lane again, how should I deal with her? Just try my best to last hit / deny and don't bother harassing with the bear?
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attacking her to death once you're level 5 or even before if you have an orb of venom and she has less than 60% health
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On April 10 2013 21:22 Kerm wrote: Hi there, does anyone knows if when you own a manta style you can use it, then use refresher orb then use it again for a total of 4 simutaneous illu ?
Thx.
Interesting question. Short answer is that you can not have more than 2 illusions per hero in dota 2 using manta. The first ones will be destroyed and remade.
There was an awesome bug in dota 1 where the number of illusions you could make was 2x the number of mantas, since illusions were tied to the item, not the hero.
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On April 10 2013 23:25 Erasme wrote: attacking her to death once you're level 5 or even before if you have an orb of venom and she has less than 60% health Well, considering its a dual lane, chances are LD is going to lose that lane and lose it bad (assuming they let you get near exp without killing you before level 5. once your level 5, all you can do is just auto attack with bear on whoever is in range).
I suppose all you can do is really catch them offguard and pull creeps when they dont expect it.
Edit: if they don't let me pull creeps well, I probably would consider going to jungle.
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On April 11 2013 04:44 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 23:25 Erasme wrote: attacking her to death once you're level 5 or even before if you have an orb of venom and she has less than 60% health Well, considering its a dual lane, chances are LD is going to lose that lane and lose it bad (assuming they let you get near exp without killing you before level 5. once your level 5, all you can do is just auto attack with bear on whoever is in range). I suppose all you can do is really catch them offguard and pull creeps when they dont expect it. Edit: if they don't let me pull creeps well, I probably would consider going to jungle.
If you're playing a solo hard lane LD and not pulling creeps with the bear, then IMO, you're doing it wrong. Especially since they fixed it so you can't trap the bear at level 1 anymore.
In your example (just curious btw, what were the other heroes?) drow/puck have no way of stopping you (especially if drow doesn't go level 1 frost arrows) and you can probably get a double creep wave pull at level 1 against them.
Do this and you'll force them to use their regen early (bad for them) or miss xp (also bad for them). You'll also probably be level 2-2.5 depending on how well you did with this which is exactly the lead you need to be able to be fine in lane. Just worry about getting xp after that, then when they are severely underleveled get friends and kill.
Also as an aside, puck/drow both need items to have any kind of impact in mid game so you have to realize that by laning together they are killing their own midgame.
EDIT: Oh and also remember xp range is about the same as the bear's leash range, so just cs at max range and use only the bear to make it so the enemy has to move forward to harass you.
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On April 11 2013 04:44 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 23:25 Erasme wrote: attacking her to death once you're level 5 or even before if you have an orb of venom and she has less than 60% health Well, considering its a dual lane, chances are LD is going to lose that lane and lose it bad (assuming they let you get near exp without killing you before level 5. once your level 5, all you can do is just auto attack with bear on whoever is in range). I suppose all you can do is really catch them offguard and pull creeps when they dont expect it. Edit: if they don't let me pull creeps well, I probably would consider going to jungle. It's extremely difficult for people to block the offlane bear pull, the creeps dont lose aggro if you stay in range so your bear might take some damage but you should definitely be able to get quite a bit of exp/farm. Unless they can towerdive you, there's really no reason to jungle instead of solo offlane.
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On April 11 2013 10:04 synapse wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 04:44 Comeh wrote:On April 10 2013 23:25 Erasme wrote: attacking her to death once you're level 5 or even before if you have an orb of venom and she has less than 60% health Well, considering its a dual lane, chances are LD is going to lose that lane and lose it bad (assuming they let you get near exp without killing you before level 5. once your level 5, all you can do is just auto attack with bear on whoever is in range). I suppose all you can do is really catch them offguard and pull creeps when they dont expect it. Edit: if they don't let me pull creeps well, I probably would consider going to jungle. It's extremely difficult for people to block the offlane bear pull, the creeps dont lose aggro if you stay in range so your bear might take some damage but you should definitely be able to get quite a bit of exp/farm. Unless they can towerdive you, there's really no reason to jungle instead of solo offlane. couple heros can stop it outright. Like Bane.
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On April 10 2013 21:22 Kerm wrote: Hi there, does anyone knows if when you own a manta style you can use it, then use refresher orb then use it again for a total of 4 simutaneous illu ?
Thx.
Actually it's even more relevant than you think in that some tinkers go for manta style - which can be rearmed. The illusions however, as have been stated before, get replaced on each activation of manta T.T
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I haven't seen a tinker go manta since they changed it from using diffusal blade. Aka YEARS ago lol
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On April 11 2013 13:07 KOFgokuon wrote: I haven't seen a tinker go manta since they changed it from using diffusal blade. Aka YEARS ago lol I still do it from time to time as a 6th item.
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it's decent sometimes cus it removes silence also it's nice for splitpushing cus you can chip away at towers until they die
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On April 11 2013 13:07 KOFgokuon wrote: I haven't seen a tinker go manta since they changed it from using diffusal blade. Aka YEARS ago lol I do it if I'm not going dagon + eblade. Order depends, usually after shivas unless there's something to manta dodge like sven stun (blink/force, the other one if it's necessary, sheep, shivas, manta).
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On April 11 2013 04:44 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 23:25 Erasme wrote: attacking her to death once you're level 5 or even before if you have an orb of venom and she has less than 60% health Well, considering its a dual lane, chances are LD is going to lose that lane and lose it bad (assuming they let you get near exp without killing you before level 5. once your level 5, all you can do is just auto attack with bear on whoever is in range). I suppose all you can do is really catch them offguard and pull creeps when they dont expect it. Edit: if they don't let me pull creeps well, I probably would consider going to jungle. puck/drow has no way to kill ld. You can pull the wave if they pull or simply block the spawn when you see puck trying to stack
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On April 11 2013 13:30 MSGHero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 13:07 KOFgokuon wrote: I haven't seen a tinker go manta since they changed it from using diffusal blade. Aka YEARS ago lol I do it if I'm not going dagon + eblade. Order depends, usually after shivas unless there's something to manta dodge like sven stun (blink/force, the other one if it's necessary, sheep, shivas, manta). how exactly do you dodge sven stun with manta?
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