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United States47024 Posts
On April 04 2013 04:33 hacklebeast wrote:
Sometimes when attacking a tower it gains ridiculous regen and becomes a lot harder to kill. What causes that? If I had to guess, I would guess that it's a mechanic to prevent heroes like troll or pl from soloing a base while the entire enemy team is on the other side of the map.
Backdoor protection activates if you are trying to kill a T2/3/4 tower with none of your team's creeps nearby.
In the case of T2, it requires nearby creeps, but for T3 and T4 towers, the only requirement is that there must be creeps inside the base (this includes other lanes).
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On April 04 2013 04:33 hacklebeast wrote:
Sometimes when attacking a tower it gains ridiculous regen and becomes a lot harder to kill. What causes that? If I had to guess, I would guess that it's a mechanic to prevent heroes like troll or pl from soloing a base while the entire enemy team is on the other side of the map.
It's called "Backdoor Protection" and it is active on: Tier 2 towers when you don't have any lane creeps nearby and buildings in base when you don't have any creeps in their base. Tier 1 towers DO NOT benefit from this.
It rapidly regenerates life back to wherever it was at before you started attacking it without creeps nearby. Generally it isn't "overcomeable" until late-game with multiple heroes (notable exceptions are heroes like Tiny w/ aghanims and Lycan).
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On April 04 2013 04:37 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 04:33 hacklebeast wrote:
Sometimes when attacking a tower it gains ridiculous regen and becomes a lot harder to kill. What causes that? If I had to guess, I would guess that it's a mechanic to prevent heroes like troll or pl from soloing a base while the entire enemy team is on the other side of the map. It's called "Backdoor Protection" and it is active on: Tier 2 towers when you don't have any lane creeps nearby and buildings in base when you don't have any creeps in their base. Tier 1 towers DO NOT benefit from this. It rapidly regenerates life back to wherever it was at before you started attacking it without creeps nearby. Generally it isn't "overcomeable" until late-game with multiple heroes (notable exceptions are heroes like Tiny w/ aghanims and Lycan).
Wisp + aghs Tiny + Troll ulti :D
backdoor alllllll day
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Well important to note is that you need to have creeps or creeps CORPSES nearby to disable backdoor protection. So as a defending team it's not possible aoe all lanecreeps and instantly make your towers become nearly invulnerable thanks backdoor-protection-regeneration.
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I d rather have the free glyph with TP from last time as well.
Makes it so assholes backdoorers can't backdoor like cunts.
User was warned for this post
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That's a pretty terrible mentality to have. Don't really want you spreading that around. Backdooring is completely legit and requires a lot of investment to actually work.
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Lalalaland34510 Posts
On April 04 2013 05:23 lazyitachi wrote:
I d rather have the free glyph with TP from last time as well.
Makes it so assholes backdoorers can't backdoor like cunts.
Backdooring is a completely legitimate part of the game.
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Free glyph with TP? and TP's get longer the more ones you do in a row?
Oh god the abuse. Just think of tinker...
Even without tinker you could tp 2 people for like 10 seconds of glyph (just cancel if its risky). Waaaaaaaaay terrible idea.
PS backdooring is SO FRUSTRATING but its still legit.
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I dont see where in my post i say it is not legit? lol.. people on tl... best reading comp
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On April 04 2013 06:01 lazyitachi wrote:
I dont see where in my post i say it is not legit? lol.. people on tl... best reading comp
I think it was the phrasing that got you the warning "asshole backdoorer cunts"
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its not like you got backdoored in real life. chill the fuck down. backdoor in dota is legit and deadly strat with some heroes. dat troll+tiny backdoor power wowzers your base be gone in 5s.
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Backdooring is a strat--it's pretty integral to split push strategies.
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Why everytime I cast Skywrath's silent on Weaver, he just sukuchis away??. Does the spell has a channel time or smt?.
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are you talking about silencer silence? because that doesn't proc until they cast a spell
skywrath's silence is pretty much an instant single target silence
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lol.. backdoor = split push. This is really funny..
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So.. Im starting to find solo queue is retarded, and made me uninstall for the 10th+ time.. Is the game significantly less lame when you actually play with people who play as a team?? What are the best chatrooms/etc to find players to play with who dont ruin/troll games? (I tried the Teamliquid chat in dota, not many ppl answer)
And I finally got confirmation on exactly what I thought from FLUFF's stream; he says he has like 7 smurf accounts because (besides the obvious, hiding his name) he said after you win a few games as 20-0 or so, you get in this weird terrible foreign queue where you get the absolute worst partners possible to counteract you climbing the ladder too fast.. which is why I wondered how I would win 6-8 games in a row, then get 3 or 4 games right after that with disconnecters, or 0-20 brazilian feeders.. It kept going like that for at least 40 games; 6 wins in a row, 4 terrible terrible losses, and repeat. Really makes this game frustrating to play as a casual/non-team player.
The game is relatively fun, even in a loss, when all 10 players play properly and help out as a team.. But when every few games you get a disconnect making it 4v5, or you get 1-2 ppl who never join team fights, etc, its really not worth playing almost.. Thats my mindset so far on this game. Its too bad its impossible to really make a game like this without the team aspect.. but that team aspect is what makes it crappy IMO (coming as a SC player for 10+ years, the ultimate game of you win or lose alone)
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your mmr is too low, games are bad when you're climbing.
Disconnects aren't that bad, you just leave.
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On April 04 2013 13:07 igotmyown wrote:
your mmr is too low, games are bad when you're climbing.
Disconnects aren't that bad, you just leave.
Its not because of his mmr. Its like in starcraft, finding system try to keep you on 50% wins. Btw as a solo player sometimes, It really suck there aint some option while finding game, witch you can check and then you cant face teams. I really hope Valve will add it in future.
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How i can jungle with medusa? what shud i buy at start? It seems impossible to me, but never tried. And last night i had discussion with my teammates about forcing out of Juggernaut ulti. Can you escape form it with force staff?
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On April 04 2013 14:36 Fik-cz wrote:
How i can jungle with medusa? what shud i buy at start? It seems impossible to me, but never tried. And last night i had discussion with my teammates about forcing out of Juggernaut ulti. Can you escape form it with force staff?
Jungling with medusa is a pretty bad idea, there is an ancient farming trick with her but it sucks and you shouldn't do it, just go to a lane and farm there.
According to the wiki, If the only target around uses Force Staff, Eul's Scepter of Divinity, or Ghost Scepter on itself Omnislash ends prematurely. Also pugna's decrepify works too, due to juggernaut's ult doing physical damage and decrepify puts you into an ethereal state where you are immune to physical damage.
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EPT
