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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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hooahah
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Bbbuuuuuuuuuuuut I just like Exort Invoker way more, it also helps the early game last hitting. Thoughts on how to have more of an impact early game or should I just accept the fact that I won't be that much help early game and go straight for the midgame? the items I build are usually phase -> bracer/sobi -> force -> drums/euls -> aghs | ||
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Cyx.
Canada806 Posts
On March 19 2013 09:51 hooahah wrote: when playing invoker mid, I generally go for Exort-Quas Forge Spirit build, but I feel as if I don't have enough impact on the early game. Sunstrike isn't reliable enough, a single forge spirit isn't worth the mana and ice wall isn't the best spell early game. Whereas Wex-Quas has a much simpler to use Tornado-EMP-cold snap combo that can help a lot early game. Bbbuuuuuuuuuuuut I just like Exort Invoker way more, it also helps the early game last hitting. Thoughts on how to have more of an impact early game or should I just accept the fact that I won't be that much help early game and go straight for the midgame? the items I build are usually phase -> bracer/sobi -> force -> drums/euls -> aghs Focus on getting your farm and levels up more. Trying to be effective too early with more than pro sunstrikes can cripple you as Invoker - you really need a level advantage, and you get that by staying in mid, not by failing to gank sidelanes (if you're mid, ofc). Farm up your force staff, double forge spirits and level 2 invoke, then go use your double forge -> cold snap -> whatever finishing move you please combo to gank hard, along with your now-decently-damaging chaos meteor -> deafening blast combo for teamfighting even harder. So basically, yeah, go for the midgame more. You don't do a lot early game, in ganks or fights. | ||
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MSGHero
United States147 Posts
On March 19 2013 09:51 hooahah wrote: Bbbuuuuuuuuuuuut I just like Exort Invoker way more, it also helps the early game last hitting. Thoughts on how to have more of an impact early game or should I just accept the fact that I won't be that much help early game and go straight for the midgame? the items I build are usually phase -> bracer/sobi -> force -> drums/euls -> aghs Be a man. Phase, midas, force, maybe drums, aghs, refresher, sheep. Emp Meteor blast meteor blast emp = gg teamfight Cool video I just saw | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On March 19 2013 09:51 hooahah wrote: when playing invoker mid, I generally go for Exort-Quas Forge Spirit build, but I feel as if I don't have enough impact on the early game. Sunstrike isn't reliable enough, a single forge spirit isn't worth the mana and ice wall isn't the best spell early game. Whereas Wex-Quas has a much simpler to use Tornado-EMP-cold snap combo that can help a lot early game. Bbbuuuuuuuuuuuut I just like Exort Invoker way more, it also helps the early game last hitting. Thoughts on how to have more of an impact early game or should I just accept the fact that I won't be that much help early game and go straight for the midgame? the items I build are usually phase -> bracer/sobi -> force -> drums/euls -> aghs with Invoker you usually stay in lane until you get your first item (be it force/euls/blink). You still have more impact early than most heroes if you can hit your sunstrike. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
On March 19 2013 10:38 Cyx. wrote: Focus on getting your farm and levels up more. Trying to be effective too early with more than pro sunstrikes can cripple you as Invoker - you really need a level advantage, and you get that by staying in mid, not by failing to gank sidelanes (if you're mid, ofc). Farm up your force staff, double forge spirits and level 2 invoke, then go use your double forge -> cold snap -> whatever finishing move you please combo to gank hard, along with your now-decently-damaging chaos meteor -> deafening blast combo for teamfighting even harder. So basically, yeah, go for the midgame more. You don't do a lot early game, in ganks or fights. If you've gone for the double forge spirits build, don't use Chaos Meteor/Deafening blast until much later (level 17 or when you have scepter). Cold Snap and Ice wall generally are stronger around this time. | ||
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iNViCiOUZ
Germany364 Posts
I currently play a quas wex build to get into invoker. Should I help gank the other lanes before force staff? because of phase boots and wex i can switch lanes very quickly. Or should I stay mid till force staff? Also at which level of exort should i use meteor? I use emp -> tornado combo and when i got my first level of exort i use emp -> tornado -> blast. How do I time the emp the best? Since the initall duration gets longer the higher i level wex. How do I react to this herpderp why you not use sunstrike idiots? ; ) | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
On March 19 2013 18:53 iNViCiOUZ wrote: On the topic Invoker. I decided to lern him at tthe weekend and after i got the spells in my mind in some bot games i played 2 pubs so far. I currently play a quas wex build to get into invoker. Should I help gank the other lanes before force staff? because of phase boots and wex i can switch lanes very quickly. Or should I stay mid till force staff? Also at which level of exort should i use meteor? I use emp -> tornado combo and when i got my first level of exort i use emp -> tornado -> blast. How do I time the emp the best? Since the initall duration gets longer the higher i level wex. How do I react to this herpderp why you not use sunstrike idiots? ; ) If you're going Quas Wex, then you should be ganking a bit earlier than you would as a QE Invoker. You don't need Force Staff to help since you have really good movespeed with Wex and Phase boots. At the beginning, gank with Tornado and Cold snap, don't bother with EMP until you have 3 (ideally 4) or more points in Wex. At low levels of Wex, start with EMP -> Tornado. Once you have ~4 or more then you should start with Tornado -> EMP. Meteor starts becoming relevant when you have 4+ points in Exort. It's also a situational spell that is best when you have something to hold the entire enemy team down like a Blackhole. It becomes much stronger when you have your Aghanim's scepter so you can easily use your Tornado -> Meteor -> Blast combo. If people ask about Sunstrike just say 'I'm not Exort' and they should shut up. If they don't then feel free to /ignore them. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On March 19 2013 17:02 Firebolt145 wrote: If you've gone for the double forge spirits build, don't use Chaos Meteor/Deafening blast until much later (level 17 or when you have scepter). Cold Snap and Ice wall generally are stronger around this time. Unless you mean don't use the combo I don't think thats good advice. You should have a point in wex after you get 4-4 and deafening blast is one of the best invoker spells. Using it in a teamfight has a very large impact if done correctly. You shouldn't have your forge spirits invoked pre-engagement as they should be already out with you so that gives you more spell (wall/coldsnap/deafeningblast etc.) Invoker is all about experience at the end of the day. You have to know your limits and what you can do in what situation so you can choose the best spell for the situation. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
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Rodberd
Germany531 Posts
I saw this number during several casts, but only on one side never on both sides. Any idea what this number is? | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
On March 20 2013 03:29 Rodberd wrote: Right now on Tobi Wans stream you can see a number right of the NaVi Heroes I saw this number during several casts, but only on one side never on both sides. Any idea what this number is? Number of viewers that are watching the game that have a pendant for that team. The pendants were released for The International 2 for the teams that were in it hence not every team has them. Viewers that have a pendant have a chance to get a reward item when special things happen in the game (such as first blood, multikills, etc). | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On March 20 2013 03:29 Rodberd wrote: Right now on Tobi Wans stream you can see a number right of the NaVi Heroes I saw this number during several casts, but only on one side never on both sides. Any idea what this number is? It's the amount of pennants equipped by people spectating in game. It's a special store item, only TI2 teams have this feature. | ||
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GoldenWisp
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- I have seen some time ago, while purge was playing, that he has a creeps's (farm) counter. I have looked at game's options but I have not found where to turn it on. Pls tell me where I can turn it on, or if this is some kind of mod, pls gimme the link. - What hero would you advice to play as when I want to get farmed and practically win a game solo. Becouse I am tired of the games, when I have nice stats but rest of my team suck. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
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Kazzoo
France368 Posts
On March 20 2013 04:27 GoldenWisp wrote: Hi guys! I am so sorry, but I have had no time to get myself trough all those 369 pages of this thread. I ma in hurry, so here are two my questions: - I have seen some time ago, while purge was playing, that he has a creeps's (farm) counter. I have looked at game's options but I have not found where to turn it on. Pls tell me where I can turn it on, or if this is some kind of mod, pls gimme the link. - What hero would you advice to play as when I want to get farmed and practically win a game solo. Becouse I am tired of the games, when I have nice stats but rest of my team suck. -Top right of your screen if your screen is 4:3. I would assume that's why you didn't find it. Or a weird bug. -Duning-Kruger is that you ? | ||
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GoldenWisp
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I have just played too many games, to know that percentage of good players, you can play and enjoy the game is much less than playing with guys, who just switched from LoL  | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34510 Posts
On March 20 2013 06:11 GoldenWisp wrote: Well, I did not tell this right.I knwo where I can find my Own creeps count, but I would like to see other's amounts of creep kills, so I could yell at my teammates, couse their farm is bad. Sth like that. And no I am not Dunning Kuger xD. I have just played too many games, to know that percentage of good players, you can play and enjoy the game is much less than playing with guys, who just switched from LoL You can't look at other's creep scores while inside the game. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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