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ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
March 18 2013 18:54 GMT
#7341
Is there any way to disconnect (not leave) a game without exiting Dota 2?
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
March 18 2013 18:55 GMT
#7342
On March 19 2013 03:54 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Is there any way to disconnect (not leave) a game without exiting Dota 2?

Activate your console by going into your steam library -> right click dota -> properties -> launch options -> type in '-console'.

Then when you're in game, press your console hotkey (set in the hotkey options with everything else) and type in 'disconnect'.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
March 18 2013 18:55 GMT
#7343
On March 19 2013 03:54 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Is there any way to disconnect (not leave) a game without exiting Dota 2?

If you go to menu there should be disconnect option under game
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
March 18 2013 18:56 GMT
#7344
On March 19 2013 03:55 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 03:54 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Is there any way to disconnect (not leave) a game without exiting Dota 2?

If you go to menu there should be disconnect option under game

This was removed so people would stop using it so much.
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ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
March 18 2013 18:59 GMT
#7345
On March 19 2013 03:55 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 03:54 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
Is there any way to disconnect (not leave) a game without exiting Dota 2?

Activate your console by going into your steam library -> right click dota -> properties -> launch options -> type in '-console'.

Then when you're in game, press your console hotkey (set in the hotkey options with everything else) and type in 'disconnect'.

Thanks
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Kazzoo
Profile Joined October 2010
France368 Posts
March 18 2013 19:55 GMT
#7346
Yeah but linkens is so much more effective in terms of damage mitigation. You are invisible and max speed half of the time, you shouldn't be taking a lot of heavy magical damage if you have good positioning. A linkens weaver is almost impossible to kill ALWAYS, a bkb weaver is impossible to kill 1/10th of the time, a pipe weaver is slightly harder to kill.
+ both of them are active, so if you get surprised, you dead.

Linkens is still far superior 90% of the time.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
March 18 2013 20:02 GMT
#7347
How is a Linkens Weaver hard to kill always? Linkens has a pretty long cooldown between spell blocks.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 20:27:44
March 18 2013 20:08 GMT
#7348
Linken's Weaver is sort of hard to kill when you finish it.

Linken's Weaver is also made of paper when you're saving up for it because you buy 2k gold worth of combat-irrelevant regen.

If you're going to make a farming item that wins you the game but has awful buildup, you may as well just get Radiance and farm 2-3 more items.

On March 19 2013 04:55 levelnoobz wrote:
Linkens is still far superior 90% of the time.

Ok, so every high-level Weaver player in China obviously has no idea what they're doing, and Brax and Pajkatt are idiots for not building Linken's in G-League finals.

I see now.
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 18 2013 20:53 GMT
#7349
linkens is only good if the other team only has a few target spells/items. otherwise u just die. its incredible easy to kill a weaver if people communicate and arent terrible. that hero literally dies in 1 stun/sheep.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
March 18 2013 21:16 GMT
#7350
Mineski.Julz went for Linkens Weaver in DotA with decent success, just saying.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 18 2013 21:19 GMT
#7351
On March 19 2013 06:16 maru~ wrote:
Mineski.Julz went for Linkens Weaver in DotA with decent success, just saying.

It's an item that has situational effectiveness--just like it does on every other hero that considers it.

But to call it "far superior 90% of the time" is wrong.
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 18 2013 21:19 GMT
#7352
On March 19 2013 06:16 maru~ wrote:
Mineski.Julz went for Linkens Weaver in DotA with decent success, just saying.


smurf just went linkens today and got crushed. your point?
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
March 18 2013 21:31 GMT
#7353
On March 19 2013 06:19 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 06:16 maru~ wrote:
Mineski.Julz went for Linkens Weaver in DotA with decent success, just saying.

It's an item that has situational effectiveness--just like it does on every other hero that considers it.

But to call it "far superior 90% of the time" is wrong.

I wasn't the one saying that, heaven forbid.

On March 19 2013 06:19 aintz wrote:
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On March 19 2013 06:16 maru~ wrote:
Mineski.Julz went for Linkens Weaver in DotA with decent success, just saying.


smurf just went linkens today and got crushed. your point?

Who is smurf? My point is that it's not as bad as some of you say, and can be quite useful in certain playstyles.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 18 2013 21:43 GMT
#7354
smurf is the captain of fnatic na. hes not the best progamer (which is probably why he got linkens instead of bkb)

linkens in a competitive game is just bad. in the average pub linkens will probably keep you alive and let you get ur ult off.
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
March 18 2013 22:10 GMT
#7355
On March 19 2013 05:08 TheYango wrote:
Linken's Weaver is sort of hard to kill when you finish it.

Linken's Weaver is also made of paper when you're saving up for it because you buy 2k gold worth of combat-irrelevant regen.

If you're going to make a farming item that wins you the game but has awful buildup, you may as well just get Radiance and farm 2-3 more items.

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2013 04:55 levelnoobz wrote:
Linkens is still far superior 90% of the time.

Ok, so every high-level Weaver player in China obviously has no idea what they're doing, and Brax and Pajkatt are idiots for not building Linken's in G-League finals.

I see now.

I think XBOCT built linkens on weaver in recent Navi games. They're often so far ahead that what they build has a totally different context, though.
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 22:36:24
March 18 2013 22:17 GMT
#7356
On March 19 2013 06:43 aintz wrote:
smurf is the captain of fnatic na.

Right... Mineski and Julz used to actually be good, you know.
They placed 3rd in SMM2011, winning 2 bo1s against LGD in a convincing manner. Of course you might argue that it's not relevant because it's so long ago and it wouldn't work nowadays etc. but then again they were the only team using Weaver like that back then (other teams went for Vang/Hood based builds or Treads Radi), and many people thought Linkens sucks and is just a pub item for Weaver. But it worked.

They played trilane Weaver on their easylane, giving him freefarm. They would take the 2 towers on that lane asap, then the supports would go and do their thing on the map, while Weaver stays on that lane. Thanks to the farm and towers he is quite fat already, rushing Linkens asap. Then he would just pressure the lane 24/7. Thanks to the reg he doesn't need to go back ever and can spam Shukuchi and Swarm as much as he wants. Since the tier2 tower is gone already he will threaten and slowly chip on the base tower, forcing people to do something about him, but with the level and gold advantage he got in the early game and from staying on the lane 24/7 and of course the stats and spellblock he is almost impossible to gank, while using a single hero to defend is dangerous because he can just dive him. It's kind of like Broodmother, but arguably harder to kill and being stronger in lategame.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
March 18 2013 22:26 GMT
#7357
As stated before Linkens is a situational pick on weaver. The buildup to Linkens gives u NOTHING. You will be a 700 hp useless shukuchi spammer with no damage or hp.

Not to mention how easy it is to counter it. Even in games where going linkens sphere is worth it's still not good to overly rely on it. The enemy sacrifices 1 ff/medallion/low cd spell/whatever on you and you are without the spell block.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-18 22:29:03
March 18 2013 22:28 GMT
#7358
Medallion doesn't pop Linken's anymore since 6.73. Urn neither.

Those 2 items made Linken's spell block virtually useless before that change.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
March 18 2013 22:32 GMT
#7359
Well, Linkens weaver turned into a far more interesting discussion than I expected it to.

I'm still really enjoying it in my low-level pubs. The splitpush is invaluable because most of my teams just want to clump afk mid until a teamfight happens, so if I can get towers down while making piles of money while pulling their players away while being unkillable, that helps a lot. Especially if the other carries are five levels below me because of clumping afk mid.

Have had a couple games where we got pushed down early and I wasn't much help in teamfights with just aquila/wand/perseverence, but I'm still not sure that an urn would turn those around...
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 18 2013 22:32 GMT
#7360
i care about what item certain progamers build why? your item build depends on the specific game. at the current 5man dota trend, linkens is just bad.

by all means keep building linkens because some progamer built it.
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