EPTWhen you're playing a game, and you look around, if you're just standing in mid, you're accomplishing nothing, go somewhere and farm, or make a push and a pickoff happen, moments spent standing around are moments not spent farming and getting more items up.
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
When you're playing a game, and you look around, if you're just standing in mid, you're accomplishing nothing, go somewhere and farm, or make a push and a pickoff happen, moments spent standing around are moments not spent farming and getting more items up. | ||
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
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maru~
2345 Posts
On March 15 2013 19:17 TOCHMY wrote: On Chen, is there any way to kill of one of your controlled creeps? In HoN, Ophelia, the equivalent to Chen, her creeps can "deny" themselves with a skill in their ulti slot. Any way to do this on Chen? No, not the way you describe it. It'd be lame anyway. You can deny them normally when they are low hp, get a new creep (oldest one will die), send them to ancients/rosh etc. | ||
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lazyitachi
1043 Posts
Otherwise, just get it below half and kill it. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On March 15 2013 15:56 Belisarius wrote: Alright, dumb general question, but.... how and where do you farm in the midgame? I feel like there's an awkward window around 15:00-25:00 where most of the T1s are down and the lanes don't feel safe unless they're pushed, and most pubs tend to kind of just awkwardly mill around mid for five minutes, waiting for a teamfight. If I join them I tend to fall horribly behind in levels and farm, but if I farm lanes I push them and risk being ganked, and if I jungle I'm usually competing with void or whoever the hard hard carry is. Obviously there must be some way to do it, but I'm too noob to work it out. Plenty of space in the usual pub game. Also if your Void has the least amount of sense he would take lanes every moment he can, because jungle is for poor people. Jungle gives nice exp but bad gold. One creepwave of 4 melee, 1 ranged creeps gives roughly the same gold as 2 creep camps. But there are only 5 non-ancient camps in the jungle in any minute, and 2 creep waves on lane per minute. The twist is that properly last hitting on a lane for 1 minute gives the same gold as farming the entire jungle in one minute. A good approach is to go towards the lane, clear the neutral camp closest to the lane, then do 1, 2 or, if you are very brave, 3 creep waves on the lane and go back to the jungle. Keep an eye on the minimap. If you see any enemies moving towards your lane(say you're top lane and you see an enemy who was in middle lane now moving top) then keep lasthitting for 5 seconds, move into the trees and tp away. That's the safest way to go about it. You can try be cute and do more greedy stuff but don't complain when you get your learning experiences* handed to you. *getting killed | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
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ApaKhe
Romania5 Posts
On March 16 2013 00:49 Logo wrote: Using TPs effectively makes a huge difference in farming. I'm not an expert by any means, but even so by pushing that TP to mid out a few seconds later or pushing a lane that 1 creep wave more then TPing away (if you have to) makes a big difference in XP/Gold. It's really important to remember how cheap TP scrolls are when you last hit well (3-4 last hits). Just bounce around and be more mobile in a passive-aggressive way in general. Even if you don't make out with the most amazing XP/Gold gain in that period, if the enemy is running all around to push you out of the lanes you're extending into then they're not doing other more productive things (so long as you don't actually get ganked). Yes, that is true... sad that not that many players use TPs | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8916 Posts
On March 16 2013 00:49 Logo wrote: Using TPs effectively makes a huge difference in farming. I'm not an expert by any means, but even so by pushing that TP to mid out a few seconds later or pushing a lane that 1 creep wave more then TPing away (if you have to) makes a big difference in XP/Gold. It's really important to remember how cheap TP scrolls are when you last hit well (3-4 last hits). Just bounce around and be more mobile in a passive-aggressive way in general. Even if you don't make out with the most amazing XP/Gold gain in that period, if the enemy is running all around to push you out of the lanes you're extending into then they're not doing other more productive things (so long as you don't actually get ganked). id be wary of giving advice to be more liberal with using tp's to farm. besides the obvious problem that it might be on cd when you actually need it for escape/fights, sometimes its better to just walk. 135 gold is indeed cheap, but it isnt negligible. its hard to teach this to a new player, as it requires judgement based on the situation at hand and a whole bunch of other variables, but there are definitely cases where walking to the lane/jungles gives you the same if not more gold. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
On March 16 2013 01:52 evilfatsh1t wrote: id be wary of giving advice to be more liberal with using tp's to farm. besides the obvious problem that it might be on cd when you actually need it for escape/fights, sometimes its better to just walk. 135 gold is indeed cheap, but it isnt negligible. its hard to teach this to a new player, as it requires judgement based on the situation at hand and a whole bunch of other variables, but there are definitely cases where walking to the lane/jungles gives you the same if not more gold. True, but from what I've seen of every newer (or even just mediocre long term) player I've ever witnessed their problem is always being too conservative with TP scrolls not too liberal. Obviously don't TP steal farm and things like that, but my advice is to start erring on the side of TPing too often rather than not enough. You may screw up and TP at a bad time now and then, but that's a lesson learned you can improve on in the future. If you're conservative with the TP scrolls you're going to end up never learning those lessons and adding in the appropriate amount of TPing is going to be harder. Even if the gold gain is the same as walking to the lane, you're going to get more XP by TPing. It's sort of like making drones in Starcraft. There's a whole host of situations where you don't want to drone, but it's better to start with a default of drone all the time everytime and then back down from that with experience. | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
United States976 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
TP is an insanely good escape mechanism if you have just a bit of game sense. In general its just a good mobility tool and when there is a fight between your mates and enemies remotely close to a tower its always a good idea to tp there to help. If your team is winning the fight, you will win it harder. If your team is escaping safely, you can possibly countergank. If your team is dying, you can help them escape. This last part applies obviously less heavily for the teamfight gimped heroes. For example a bloodseeker will almost never turn around a 3v2 even under your tower. A warlock or disruptor can turn around pretty much any fight though, if played competently. | ||
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MSGHero
United States147 Posts
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FreeZer
Sweden288 Posts
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Jacen88
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On March 16 2013 19:20 FreeZer wrote: Does BKB make you immune to the stun you get when you destroy the ancient? This is very important. What are you trying to do? And I am guessing it doesn't | ||
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