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ChiknAdobo
Profile Joined November 2010
United States208 Posts
February 18 2013 18:12 GMT
#6741
Hello I was wondering how to use the armlet properly. Is it good to get lifesteal with it or a heart or what?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 18 2013 18:16 GMT
#6742
On February 19 2013 03:12 ChiknAdobo wrote:
Hello I was wondering how to use the armlet properly. Is it good to get lifesteal with it or a heart or what?

Armlet is typically used with heroes that have high enough inherent healing/lifesteal to use the item (Naix, Skeleton King, Huskar being the big 3). Lifesteal and Heart are situational item choices for those heroes, but typically you expect Armlet to be self-sustaining for those heroes.
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maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
February 18 2013 19:56 GMT
#6743
On February 19 2013 03:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 03:12 ChiknAdobo wrote:
Hello I was wondering how to use the armlet properly. Is it good to get lifesteal with it or a heart or what?

Armlet is typically used with heroes that have high enough inherent healing/lifesteal to use the item (Naix, Skeleton King, Huskar being the big 3). Lifesteal and Heart are situational item choices for those heroes, but typically you expect Armlet to be self-sustaining for those heroes.

You would almost never want to go for lifesteal on Naix/SK, while you want it badly on Huskar (at least if you want to carry the game).

About Armlet, it's usually not worth it unless you are really good at abusing it, with a few exceptions.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 18 2013 19:57 GMT
#6744
Yango was not suggesting you buy lifesteal on naix or sk lmao.
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maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 20:04:33
February 18 2013 20:04 GMT
#6745
"Lifesteal and Heart are situational item choices for those heroes"
He phrased it in a weird way and I commented on it to avoid new players misunderstanding him.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
February 18 2013 20:14 GMT
#6746
Its not like we just saw a vlads on Naix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
February 18 2013 20:20 GMT
#6747
On February 19 2013 05:14 Erasme wrote:
Its not like we just saw a vlads on Naix.


Does the % damage boost on vlads affect the damage values on his lifesteal?
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maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 20:21:10
February 18 2013 20:20 GMT
#6748
On February 19 2013 05:14 Erasme wrote:
Its not like we just saw a vlads on Naix.

Okay?
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
February 18 2013 20:32 GMT
#6749
Can I have some ideas for the third hero in a luna/chen/* trilane? Guessing something with a setup stun/slow.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 20:36:21
February 18 2013 20:34 GMT
#6750
On February 19 2013 05:32 Ruscour wrote:
Can I have some ideas for the third hero in a luna/chen/* trilane? Guessing something with a setup stun/slow.


Vengeful Spirit so you can double aura.

On February 19 2013 05:20 Vod.kaholic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 05:14 Erasme wrote:
Its not like we just saw a vlads on Naix.


Does the % damage boost on vlads affect the damage values on his lifesteal?


Feast is based on your opponent's current life, not your damage. It would work on open wounds though.
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Vod.kaholic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1052 Posts
February 18 2013 20:46 GMT
#6751
On February 19 2013 05:34 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 05:32 Ruscour wrote:
Can I have some ideas for the third hero in a luna/chen/* trilane? Guessing something with a setup stun/slow.


Vengeful Spirit so you can double aura.

Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 05:20 Vod.kaholic wrote:
On February 19 2013 05:14 Erasme wrote:
Its not like we just saw a vlads on Naix.


Does the % damage boost on vlads affect the damage values on his lifesteal?


Feast is based on your opponent's current life, not your damage. It would work on open wounds though.


Oh nevermind, the Vlads bonus damage only applies to "base damage and damage from attribute points." according to the wiki.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 00:56:56
February 19 2013 00:53 GMT
#6752
On February 19 2013 05:32 Ruscour wrote:
Can I have some ideas for the third hero in a luna/chen/* trilane? Guessing something with a setup stun/slow.

Depends on the enemy lane as well. I'm assuming you want your trilane postured defensively. Ranged 600 default stun/heavy slow works. Basically just somebody who can effectively zone. Heroes like Venomancer can work as well, but don't fit as well into today's metagame.

If against an enemy trilane, clickable AOE stun and/or nuke--perhaps Rubick or Nyx (just because both are great). Supportive Windrunner can work as well due to excellent damage (boosted by Lunar Blessing) and an amazing skillset. In this case you're just waiting on your Chen to find good creep (I'm looking at you Trolls) since trilanes with Chen are generally weaker than other off-lane trilanes (since they generally want to kill things and Chen isn't around 100% of the time).

On February 19 2013 03:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 03:12 ChiknAdobo wrote:
Hello I was wondering how to use the armlet properly. Is it good to get lifesteal with it or a heart or what?

Armlet is typically used with heroes that have high enough inherent healing/lifesteal to use the item (Naix, Skeleton King, Huskar being the big 3). Lifesteal and Heart are situational item choices for those heroes, but typically you expect Armlet to be self-sustaining for those heroes.

Chaos Knight should be mentioned here as well. Despite generally having only a Bottle for HP-regeneration purposes, Armlet carries the 25 STR (475 HP and 25 damage) to illusions as well. With Heart generally on Chaos Knight as well that provides you the regeneration later in the game (just leave the Armlet on). Oftentimes CK will have a Wisp with him as well for a healing battery.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
February 19 2013 01:04 GMT
#6753
On February 18 2013 07:13 PassiveAce wrote:
as an initiation tool or as an escape tool. it essentially gives you a guaranteed stomp combo, so use it if that will land you a kill, or use it to allow a teammate to escape certain death.
You can also use it for chasing enemy heroes after a good fight with great effect.

After the rework nerf from stun into 100% slow, it's not as good of an initiation tool. Yes, you put your team into a situation where they are right on top of the enemy team. Yet, that may not be where you want them to be (for instance, you don't want to be in close when your team is more mid/long-range while the enemy team consists of close-range combatants). The damage and slow duration aren't that exceptional (1.25 seconds and 1/2/3x STR) to make Stampede a good initiating technique in larger fights.

Stampede seems most useful for chasing or fleeing as it is right now.
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InfectedGoat
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada444 Posts
February 19 2013 05:43 GMT
#6754
Hello, I was wondering if passive abilities can proc during silences. for example, can spirit breaker proc a stun during a silence
and i was like BANELINGS x 3
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-19 05:51:32
February 19 2013 05:50 GMT
#6755
^yes with the notable exception of Doom's ult, which disables all items and many passives.
edit- and riki's ult is disabled by any silence, I think those are the only two exceptions to that rule, could be a little off though.
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infam
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany66 Posts
February 19 2013 05:51 GMT
#6756
On February 19 2013 14:43 InfectedGoat wrote:
Hello, I was wondering if passive abilities can proc during silences. for example, can spirit breaker proc a stun during a silence

All passive abilities work under silence. Only Doom prevents all abilities and items except for auras from work.
Pebbz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States84 Posts
February 19 2013 06:53 GMT
#6757
On February 19 2013 14:51 infam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 14:43 InfectedGoat wrote:
Hello, I was wondering if passive abilities can proc during silences. for example, can spirit breaker proc a stun during a silence

All passive abilities work under silence. Only Doom prevents all abilities and items except for auras from work.


Except Permanent Invisibility.
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
February 19 2013 07:00 GMT
#6758
This doesn't seem like it really belongs here, but I didn't want to make another thread for this.

When do you know when you should start picking heroes instead of randoming every game? By suggestion of some people here on TL I started random APing every game to try to see every hero. When do you know when you're in a spot where you should be deliberatley picking your heroes? Mostly people aren't that good on the games I'm playing (except maybe 1 or 2 key players) so for right now I think I'm still good randoming, but I thought I'd ask
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
February 19 2013 08:16 GMT
#6759
Well, it's important to learn all the heroes, but not necessarily important to random them. You might get more out of planning which heroes to practice. That way you can prepare by learning skill builds and some common item builds (and their role/best lanes) ahead of time. Maybe break down the heroes you still need to play (or heroes that you didn't get much out of playing the first time) into a group of heroes by role-- so either just doing a few carries in a row and then a few supports in a row or doing one support, one jungler, one carry, etc. Try to make it interesting/fun. Practice whoever you need to learn or need to imporove upon; you don't necessarily need to random.

To answer your question though; you should feel like if you randomed anyone you could play them confidently before you start picking specific heroes based on the lineups. That way you'll have a sense for when each hero might be useful to the team, and if you identify a specific hero or several heroes which fulfill whatever role/hero your team needs you'll be able to play it yourself.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
February 19 2013 09:03 GMT
#6760
On February 19 2013 14:51 infam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2013 14:43 InfectedGoat wrote:
Hello, I was wondering if passive abilities can proc during silences. for example, can spirit breaker proc a stun during a silence

All passive abilities work under silence. Only Doom prevents all abilities and items except for auras from work.

This isn't true.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255901&currentpage=213#4246

Passives blocked include Cleave, Critical Strikes, and Evasion, among others.
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