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Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
November 19 2012 22:06 GMT
#4821
On November 20 2012 06:22 RuiBarbO wrote:
What is a good way to go about learning how to draft?


Watch pro [chinese] drafts? Or start some inhouse CM games.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
November 19 2012 22:29 GMT
#4822
Doesn't have to be chinese at all to get a basic idea of drafting. Just have to keep a few things in mind, off the top of my head:
- What heroes work together
- What lanes are you going to have
- How are you going to allocate your farm
- Make sure you don't pick anything stupid that is directly countered by something you haven't banned
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
November 20 2012 00:47 GMT
#4823
Hopefully this is a simple Q...

How does Armor work towards mitigating damage, exactly? It's one thing I've never known
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 00:58:33
November 20 2012 00:53 GMT
#4824
On November 20 2012 06:22 RuiBarbO wrote:
What is a good way to go about learning how to draft?


Watch tournaments that have top teams. Try to figure out and learn why they are banning and picking every single hero that they do. A lot of teams favor certain heroes over others as well, and since that can be a factor in drafting (picking up heroes that your team likes/is comfortable with) just focus down on maybe a few teams so you can get to know what their picking habits are overall. Pause videos/replays after each ban and pick and reason out why it was done. A lot of the time it's actually pretty obvious once you think about it a little bit. Once you start thinking you have a good idea of what kinds of heroes teams should be picking/banning, try pausing BEFORE the ban/pick that you want to predict and pick 2-3 heroes that you think would be good there, then unpause and see what they pick. If it's different from what you thought, once again, reason out why they picked it.

I think there's also a few video tutorials out there about drafting, but a lot of them are pretty basic and don't have much info.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
November 20 2012 00:56 GMT
#4825
On November 20 2012 09:47 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Hopefully this is a simple Q...

How does Armor work towards mitigating damage, exactly? It's one thing I've never known

http://www.playdota.com/mechanics/damagearmor

Should help!
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
November 20 2012 01:29 GMT
#4826
On November 20 2012 09:47 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Hopefully this is a simple Q...

How does Armor work towards mitigating damage, exactly? It's one thing I've never known


There's are different armor type, but I doubt you care about it too much.

Otherwise, armor reduces the incoming physical attack. 1 armor reduces 5.7% incoming physical attack, 2 armor reduces 10.7%

It's a little hard to calculate your actual incoming attack, so most of the time I only use eHP. eHP is the Effective HP, each point of armor gives you another 6% of your total HP.
tldr: it means that a dude with 1000hp and 1 armor is equal to a dude that has 1060hp and 0 armor.

It's easier to calculate on the go with eHP. For example, Sven's Warcry will gives your whole team +96% of the hp when taking physical damage; or when you dive tower, you know tower hit 110 damage, and your eHP is 900hp, so you can only tank 8 hit from tower.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
November 20 2012 02:05 GMT
#4827
Beautiful thanks, whenever I get an AC I've wondered about how much damage was being mitigated as I build piece by piece
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8819 Posts
November 20 2012 06:08 GMT
#4828
On November 20 2012 06:22 RuiBarbO wrote:
What is a good way to go about learning how to draft?

aside from the obvious reasons like choosing your lanes, counter picks, hero synergies etc
the biggest thing to keep in mind when drafting is
PICK HEROES YOUR TEAM CAN PLAY
unless youre playing with a team full of good players, in which case you should already have an idea on how to draft well, chances are youre going to have teammates that cant play a certain number of heroes
if you pick heroes that are good on paper but your players cant play them, youre asking for a loss. happens all the time with mid level scrims
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 08:01:09
November 20 2012 08:00 GMT
#4829
when I'm vs bloodseeker mid, can someone give me a quick guide to counterplay vs him in lane? Haven't done it yet but I know he's a noobstomper and I don't want to show up and give him a million kills immediately.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 20 2012 08:36 GMT
#4830
On November 20 2012 17:00 UniversalSnip wrote:
when I'm vs bloodseeker mid, can someone give me a quick guide to counterplay vs him in lane? Haven't done it yet but I know he's a noobstomper and I don't want to show up and give him a million kills immediately.


Be very aggressive to him from level1 to force him spend his pots even that makes you lose some last hits, a PMS+quelling BS at lvl3 will become a headache to most of the mid heroes (because you can't effective stop him farming anymore). Or you can do a 'timing attack' as soon as you get lvl3 (with a good rune would be nice) that you want to force him back to base (which is why you want him to spend his pots before that happened).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 20 2012 08:38 GMT
#4831
He has trouble against burst, if you can burst him under 50%hp, you should be able to kill him with the next wave. It's a little bit tricky since he can get back to full hp if you pussy out..
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 08:59:20
November 20 2012 08:58 GMT
#4832
Last time i was against a BS was with a shadow shaman mid, i bottle crowed as soon as possible and kept harassing him anytime it was possible and i got a kill and won the lane hard.

I'm not sure how to explain it, but yea as said, aggression and burst seems to work.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 09:07:17
November 20 2012 09:06 GMT
#4833
adding on to what everybody else said
dont give up last hits for denies, chances are you are on a hero thats more effective mid/late game.

if your team has a good ganker for mid, the lane can be won very easily

to be safe, obtain a tp around level 5. if he somehow reaches level 6 and you misposition yourself you might have an escape option, but sometimes not needed on tanky heroes anyhow (or keep your hp high). either way this isnt bad advice unless you are too poor for boots
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Verror
Profile Joined March 2011
261 Posts
November 20 2012 09:08 GMT
#4834
Is there a list somewhere that outlines what items can be transferred between heroes with their full function?

Like you can drop tango's, clarity's etcetc and others (at least on your team) can use them, but is there a full list of every non buyer specific item somewhere?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 09:30:24
November 20 2012 09:24 GMT
#4835
On November 20 2012 18:08 Verror wrote:
Is there a list somewhere that outlines what items can be transferred between heroes with their full function?

Like you can drop tango's, clarity's etcetc and others (at least on your team) can use them, but is there a full list of every non buyer specific item somewhere?

Any item from the consumables tab, plus Gem and Cheese.

EDIT: And unmuted Rapiers, but those are also undroppable.
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Verror
Profile Joined March 2011
261 Posts
November 20 2012 10:04 GMT
#4836
On November 20 2012 18:24 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 18:08 Verror wrote:
Is there a list somewhere that outlines what items can be transferred between heroes with their full function?

Like you can drop tango's, clarity's etcetc and others (at least on your team) can use them, but is there a full list of every non buyer specific item somewhere?

Any item from the consumables tab, plus Gem and Cheese.

EDIT: And unmuted Rapiers, but those are also undroppable.


Well, that certainly was simple, the bottle on the courier being used by others than the buyer confused me most, but now I know! I probly should have deduced that, since I've bought wards for others to carry before >.< Thx much!
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 20 2012 10:48 GMT
#4837
Basic mana/health regen items are also transferable (RoR, RoH, perseverance, void stone, sobi mask).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
November 20 2012 11:42 GMT
#4838
Although they can't be built with - ie I could give you my RoH, but you couldn't take that to build a hood. It would give you the regen, but can only be built into something else by myself.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
whereismymind
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom717 Posts
November 20 2012 15:16 GMT
#4839
Hey is there any calculator to calculate gain of Aghanim's Scepter on any hero? I heard you don't gain only bonus, but on some heroes you gain HP and mana too? Is that correct?

PS: Earthshaker - aghanim's scepter or shiva's guard after blink dagger? You do more damage with shiva's after Echo, (versus aghanim's 75 more echo damage), but I don't know if you gain anything more from aghanim's than only that damage.

Thank you.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 20 2012 15:52 GMT
#4840
On November 21 2012 00:16 whereismymind wrote:
Hey is there any calculator to calculate gain of Aghanim's Scepter on any hero? I heard you don't gain only bonus, but on some heroes you gain HP and mana too? Is that correct?

PS: Earthshaker - aghanim's scepter or shiva's guard after blink dagger? You do more damage with shiva's after Echo, (versus aghanim's 75 more echo damage), but I don't know if you gain anything more from aghanim's than only that damage.

Thank you.


The scepter gives you all the stats from the item it builds from. That is 10 all stats and 200hp/150mana. All heroes get this.

Builds are always game dependent in dota. There isn't a list of items you can get in a certain order that will be useful every game. Consider what each item is good for and decide which is going to be more useful in the current game.
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