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randombum
United States2378 Posts
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whereismymind
United Kingdom717 Posts
I play Death prophet as support. Can you explain what items do I need to survive team fights before my ulti ends? I am first target as always. I use blade mail and was thinking about force staff... what say you? | ||
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MahKh
144 Posts
On November 12 2012 11:37 randombum wrote: Is there a way to get the game not to automatically give the commands to your hero if you have nothing selected? For example if you have summons on a hotkey and tell them to right click an enemy hero, only they died/timed out at that moment so now instead of casting an epic 5 man black hole for 4 seconds it, you cancel it within a fraction of a second. I don't think, haven't seen any mention of it anywhere | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 12 2012 12:03 whereismymind wrote: Hanguga! I play Death prophet as support. Can you explain what items do I need to survive team fights before my ulti ends? I am first target as always. I use blade mail and was thinking about force staff... what say you? Death Prophet shouldn't be played as a support. She's heavily item-dependent in order to teamfight comfortably, and is also quite level-dependent, as every level up to level 11 is fairly significant. I wouldn't play her as anything lower than 3rd position, and even 1st position is suitable in some cases. She's just poor as a support, since she has no real disables other than her silence, and her usefulness comes from her damage from Locust Swarm/Ulti, which require her to be relatively high level to have a significant impact. An underleveled Death Prophet accomplishes almost nothing. | ||
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hkimmy
Korea (South)61 Posts
Death Prophet shouldn't be played as a support. She's heavily item-dependent in order to teamfight comfortably, and is also quite level-dependent, as every level up to level 11 is fairly significant. Doesn't mean that she's not going to be effective when getting support items such as meka or force staff if no one gets it. In regards to lacking an escape mechanism I find that tranquil/phase boots plus your movement speed buff from the third skill gives you plenty of movement speed to get away if you're in deep trouble plus when your ulti duration ends you'll be back to almost full HP anyhow. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
force isn't that good on dp usually arcanes > wand + mek + jango + pipe > w.e i also like boots + bottle > wand + jango > euls > sny > bots > manta + halberd | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
If you're mid, an early bottle is great. If you're a 1st position (getting most of the farm), you might consider going for a fast bloodstone, then shivas, sheep or heart. If you're not quite getting amazing farm then you can go for a drums as your first item. Phase boots and wand are a given, though you can go tranquils if you really want to. BKB is necessary against some lineups. Shadowblade is also an option if you're feeling a little gimmicky (you can cast your ult then shadowblade). | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
On November 12 2012 12:03 whereismymind wrote: Hanguga! I play Death prophet as support. Can you explain what items do I need to survive team fights before my ulti ends? I am first target as always. I use blade mail and was thinking about force staff... what say you? why would you play DP as support when you can solo towers instead ?  I usually start with Courier+3 branch+tango+clarity -> wand -> arcane boots -> perseverance -> point booster -> vitality booster -> dissamble boots for bloodstone -> boots of travel -> push 3 lane -> win | ||
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whereismymind
United Kingdom717 Posts
On November 12 2012 18:22 sandyph wrote: why would you play DP as support when you can solo towers instead ? I usually start with Courier+3 branch+tango+clarity -> wand -> arcane boots -> perseverance -> point booster -> vitality booster -> dissamble boots for bloodstone -> boots of travel -> push 3 lane -> win Thanks for describing items for beginner instead of bfb, sheep, hamly, whatevs where i can't even find what items are some people talking about  Anyway, how do you survive while in team fights? I mean when I use my ulti, I can't just run far away, since my ulti depends on me being in zone of fight.. Do I depend on others and stuff or? Before fight starts I call my ulti, than I usualy silence and stay behind, If they target me like really hard I use blade mail if i have it and try to run away with phase boots, but it is very hard if they start raping me first(if I am in bad position for example). Any suggestions about that? | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On November 12 2012 21:39 whereismymind wrote: Thanks for describing items for beginner instead of bfb, sheep, hamly, whatevs where i can't even find what items are some people talking about Anyway, how do you survive while in team fights? I mean when I use my ulti, I can't just run far away, since my ulti depends on me being in zone of fight.. Do I depend on others and stuff or? Before fight starts I call my ulti, than I usualy silence and stay behind, If they target me like really hard I use blade mail if i have it and try to run away with phase boots, but it is very hard if they start raping me first(if I am in bad position for example). Any suggestions about that? If you are new and don't know what items are, the best way to learn them is to look them up when people describe them for you. Here you go! http://www.dota2.com/items/ | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
On November 12 2012 21:39 whereismymind wrote: Thanks for describing items for beginner instead of bfb, sheep, hamly, whatevs where i can't even find what items are some people talking about Anyway, how do you survive while in team fights? I mean when I use my ulti, I can't just run far away, since my ulti depends on me being in zone of fight.. Do I depend on others and stuff or? Before fight starts I call my ulti, than I usualy silence and stay behind, If they target me like really hard I use blade mail if i have it and try to run away with phase boots, but it is very hard if they start raping me first(if I am in bad position for example). Any suggestions about that? You pretty much described why support DP does not work. You can't really stay that far back, and you can't survive in the middle of the fight without items. Bloodstone isn't that great of an option. Often you can survive with wand, bottle crowing, and other's arcanes, untill you get up to a Scythe of Vyse or Shiva's guard which basically fix your mana problems forever. It does have its uses though. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8939 Posts
you need items BAD that said, i wouldnt recommend bloodstone first as your first big item. build up isnt that great and there are other items which you could benefit from more personally i go bottle->(wand)->phase->cloak/vit booster->vit booster/cloak->hood after that i can decide on whether to go pipe, shivas, hex, heart or bloodstone depending on the situation | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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CoMuTra
United Kingdom9 Posts
Related - I was playing around with Spirit Breaker, testing builds and such, and I noticed that his bonus damage from Greater Bash didn't show up in the damage amount in the stats. Activating Mask of Madness gave no change in the number displayed, neither did his charge. Is the bonus GB damage a hidden bonus that is not displayed, or is it not registering? It seems a bit odd to not display it, as it's a flat bonus, and doesn't rely on procs. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
for example lina has a base damage of 13-31 also spirit breaker's bash does rely on a proc, the bonus damage only affects the bashes themselves | ||
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whereismymind
United Kingdom717 Posts
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LazyFailKid
Canada750 Posts
On November 13 2012 13:07 whereismymind wrote: So how exactly is DP tank? i die very fast in teamfights. then either the enemy team is focusing you down or you are building no hp/not last hitting well enough to get hp items before teamfights start | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On November 13 2012 13:07 whereismymind wrote: So how exactly is DP tank? i die very fast in teamfights. Tank doesn't exactly mean tank. She's tanky mainly because of her high movespeed, which makes her run around battlefield very fast. Her spells (Silence), and items (Eul, sheepstick, shiva) makes it harder for the enemy to pursue and kill her, leaving her in the battlefield for a long time to do big damage. Overall, when playing her, don't play her like you play Axe. You need to move around, use all your spells to protect you, since the longer you stay in battlefield, the better you are. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 13 2012 09:37 CoMuTra wrote: Related - I was playing around with Spirit Breaker, testing builds and such, and I noticed that his bonus damage from Greater Bash didn't show up in the damage amount in the stats. Activating Mask of Madness gave no change in the number displayed, neither did his charge. Is the bonus GB damage a hidden bonus that is not displayed, or is it not registering? It seems a bit odd to not display it, as it's a flat bonus, and doesn't rely on procs. It IS based on procs. Greater Bash's bonus damage only applies to bashes, not to regular attacks. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
Back then it always used to be 1/3/1. But now I sorta just do like 1/2/2. Maybe even 1/1/3. But I hate relying on procs during laning phase. Any clue as to whats best? | ||
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