EPTor a hero who can harrass easily like silencer (curse/glaives)
or you can go axe for a melee option
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8937 Posts
or a hero who can harrass easily like silencer (curse/glaives) or you can go axe for a melee option | ||
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hkimmy
Korea (South)61 Posts
Lv6-7 and during night time is the phase where pudge likes to roam around and gank so do be extra careful especially if you are a squishy hero and you should be fine. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
Block your creep very well and pudge will have problems if you're ranged. Viper can make him miserable. But the best pub counter to pudge is beastmaster. Especially when he gets level 3 hawk, you can follow pudge while he's trying to hide in the trees/uphill, detect when he tps in when you're pushing, and you roar him if an ally ever gets hooked. If you get medallion he dies so fast with his lack of armor. You can also position your boar in between you and pudge while you lane, and when he wards you can get a gem and kill it with your boar safely. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
There are only a limited number of spots where a butcher can reasonably hook from. Learn hooks length and stay a hooks length away from hiding spots. Position yourself so creeps are between you and the expected hook direction. When lasthitting in lane constantly move without repeating a pattern. That´s good against any kind of skillshot and should be done to some point out of lane too. When he goes towards you, run away with changing directions that would fit into a V. ↖↑↗ If you try to evade too much he can just run up to you and bite you. If you make this kind of movement a habit of yours, butcher becomes just a fat, ugly hero with a melee disable and an unreliable hook. Works with all heroes(better with more movespeed). | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On October 13 2012 19:35 zZap wrote: how to punish a pub pudge early game? and which hero can do it effectively viper/qop/ns are my favourites With Viper just orbwalk him whevener I like to put 2early points in shadowstrike, with a few autos he can't come close enough to last hit Ns is easier since even if you're hooked you'll kill him after lvl 4. You have a lot more armor, so you can harass him in lane as soon as possible. When you hit 3 you can void him a few times with your bottle. Then he can't really do much. You should get bottle + boots + urn faster than him. He could contest the first 3runes but will die if he tries to contest the fourth one (night time) During the night pudge is absolute food for you. | ||
boxman22
Canada430 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On October 14 2012 03:44 boxman22 wrote: I played one game with alchemist today and was surprised by how much gold you can rake in with him now. The buffs to basically everything he does makes him significantly better. Is it best to go radiance with him or some of the other damage items (like mjollnir)? Should you go buriza after that or heart to make you even tankier? The answer for your question is situational from game to game. If you can farm up a quick radiance and your team can hold out 4v5 until you do so, then go ahead. If you need more damage with push, go mjollnir. If you need more direct damage, go daedalus. If you need true hit, get mkb. If the opponents have lots of disables, go bkb. If they have a lot of physical damage, go AC. If you need more HP overall, get heart. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On October 14 2012 03:44 boxman22 wrote: I played one game with alchemist today and was surprised by how much gold you can rake in with him now. The buffs to basically everything he does makes him significantly better. Is it best to go radiance with him or some of the other damage items (like mjollnir)? Should you go buriza after that or heart to make you even tankier? Radiance is great with him, but if you feel pressured/you don't have the time to farm radiance, mjollnir will be better. Bkb most of the times. I feel that you should get crits after ac/bash. Don't listen to fb, hes bad. *whispers* Listen to me. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
Also make someone get Vlads. THE SMACKING SHALL NEVER STOP. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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LazyFailKid
Canada750 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
Early-Mid game items: Wand(1), Pick 2 of these: Drums, Medallion, Aquila, Urn Late game: Monkey King Bar, Crit. Some argue Deso, I say a medallion does that job adequately. (With Swarm -armor it can get too much, where it does less for you. Past 0 Armor, reduction drops in effectiveness. Of course, if your farm is great 14-16 minute Radiance is optimal. If not, go the above mid-game fight route and make sure to crush face and not be passive. Ganks are great, max movespeed invisible flying Spider? Yes please. *Edit* - Yeah, Urn is a pretty common item on a lot of mid heroes. (NS, Pudge, Exort Voker) Two of these is a no-no. I personally just go Treads, then depending on how the laning phase is going, if I'm forced to buy Basil then I'll finish Aquila otherwise skip it. Drums, then Medallion. | ||
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LazyFailKid
Canada750 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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LazyFailKid
Canada750 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On October 14 2012 08:39 Nevuk wrote: at what hp/armor does it become more efficient to buy a chainmail than a bracer vs a physical dps lineup? I did a quick calculation and it seems very low, below start hp for most heroes. 494 if we assume 0 start armor, 604 if we assume 5 armor. Basically armor is always better against *only* physical. Can someone verify this, it´s been while since I mathed around. | ||
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mutantmagnet
United States3807 Posts
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