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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 08 2015 13:47 GMT
#21421
well as yango put it
This behavior works normally in DotA 2 in most cases, it's just that slows can do weird things to a melee unit's range buffer for some reason, which causes the crazy autoattack range bug you're referring to. It's not War3 parity.

probably a bug where the game thinks your frontswing is fast enough to hit them despite the slow. remember the big attack speed bug that was fixed a few patches ago that made phoenix so powerful
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-08 14:19:06
April 08 2015 14:12 GMT
#21422
Well no, the strange thing is that the bug applies to movement speed slows, not attack speed slows. If the unit has an attack slow but no movement slow like Untouchable, the range buffer functions normally, but you can get fucked up situations with movement slowing skills even if the skill doesn't also slow attack speed.

It's even weirder because sometimes the bug pops up when the target is slowed, not the attacker.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 08 2015 14:37 GMT
#21423
don't worry guys, it's still in beta. im sure volvo will fix it XD

but seriously, once source 2 comes out i bet we'll see less of these weird bugs ^^
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ImWonder
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8 Posts
April 09 2015 14:13 GMT
#21424
Is there any way to stop the screen from going back to the fountain when you respawn? Like if I'm watching a fight close to a tower, I don't want the screen to move away I want it to stay there when I respawn.
ImWonder
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8 Posts
April 09 2015 14:19 GMT
#21425
nm found it thank you.
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
April 09 2015 14:22 GMT
#21426
On April 09 2015 23:13 ImWonder wrote:
Is there any way to stop the screen from going back to the fountain when you respawn? Like if I'm watching a fight close to a tower, I don't want the screen to move away I want it to stay there when I respawn.


I spam click on The minimap, but I Will eco The choir here. If there is a way, I would like to know
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 09 2015 14:25 GMT
#21427
its an option in the client as he found
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 09 2015 15:06 GMT
#21428
it's something like "move camera on respawn"
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
April 09 2015 17:53 GMT
#21429
I play invoker and around 5k mmr, and am facing Sniper mid.

How do I win? I am being zoned out by his shrapnel and his attack animation is better.

I run QE mostly, if you suggest QW instead then how would you compete with his lasthits?
England will fight to the last American
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
April 09 2015 17:55 GMT
#21430
On April 10 2015 02:53 KaiserJohan wrote:
I play invoker and around 5k mmr, and am facing Sniper mid.

How do I win? I am being zoned out by his shrapnel and his attack animation is better.

I run QE mostly, if you suggest QW instead then how would you compete with his lasthits?

In the words of Ozzie Osborne: suicide's the way.

(I have nothing helpful)
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 09 2015 17:55 GMT
#21431
"hello how do i win impossible lanes"
u dont
ur best bet is to beg for ganks before he can get a few levels. Also Q/W invoker definitely *can* contest lasthits since it's not like sniper's damage is any better than urs. It's just the animation that causes problems.
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RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 22:23:11
April 09 2015 22:17 GMT
#21432
Prioritizing Q will yield enough sustain to survive the shrapnel spam. Beg for ganks before he gets boots. After he has boots, diving the tower becomes dangerous even with flame spirits, so perhaps try and catch up by using the spirits to stack the jungle/ancients, while getting last hits when able. Note that if sniper is maxing shrapnel, your flame spirits will be able to outrange him in order to harass effectively.

If you want to try the QW method, then keep in mind that phase boots+mom sniper will run faster than you, even ghost walked. The trick here is to bait the sniper mask of madness (and hopefully phase too), then turn on him and tornado. This will purge the mask and cause sniper to be snow enough to actually get some hits off with cold snap. Start with blades of attack, then a second blade of attack, then bottle+boots. The quas is enough regen to survive sniper's harassment, and wex can substitute for boots early in races to the rune. Don't skip bottle because no exort means you have less max int to work with.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 10 2015 00:04 GMT
#21433
ppl buy bottle on invoker?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
April 10 2015 00:25 GMT
#21434
if a player gives a non-sharable item to one of their allies, can people on the enemy team see that the item is muted? Does the item say anything different when alt-clicked?
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 10 2015 14:15 GMT
#21435
Why don't we see more of ET atm? Most carries go pure stats items atm and early BKB is not that great, plus he's really good at turtling with endless spirit spam.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 15:21:59
April 10 2015 15:21 GMT
#21436
ET isn't actually a good hero, he's just buffed to ridiculous levels

intrinsically, the hero itself doesn't offer a lot:

not a core (carry/semi-carry), no real disables, no gank

spirit spam isn't really "aoe"

etc
everything that rises must converge
aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 15:25:19
April 10 2015 15:22 GMT
#21437
On April 10 2015 09:04 ahswtini wrote:
ppl buy bottle on invoker?

people used to flame you for it in pubs, but then scandal did it and owned dendi or something so you don't get flamed as often now

they used to flame you for not getting "ult stick" too...

sheep mentality...

i used to get flamed for bloodstone tinker too
everything that rises must converge
GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
April 10 2015 15:44 GMT
#21438
On April 11 2015 00:21 aboxcar wrote:
ET isn't actually a good hero, he's just buffed to ridiculous levels

intrinsically, the hero itself doesn't offer a lot:

not a core (carry/semi-carry), no real disables, no gank

spirit spam isn't really "aoe"

etc


I don't really get how Spirit + Stomp isn't AOE. I guess it's not the greatest damage but it does send their creep wave to sleep for 5 seconds.

While his disables are unreliable by themselves Euls is a super obvious choice and it's stupidly popular at the moment.

But what nojok was getting at is that he offers something no other hero does: removing 100% of the armour from all the agility that Trolls and Snipers are getting from their Skadis and SnYs.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 10 2015 15:56 GMT
#21439
On April 11 2015 00:21 aboxcar wrote:
ET isn't actually a good hero, he's just buffed to ridiculous levels

intrinsically, the hero itself doesn't offer a lot:

not a core (carry/semi-carry), no real disables, no gank

spirit spam isn't really "aoe"

etc

We see pos 4/5 zeus those days, sure they're cool to dewards and the ulti for scouting but so is spirit and I think the aura damage boost is on par with static field.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 17:04:38
April 10 2015 17:01 GMT
#21440
Natural Order's usefulness depends on how mobile and accessible the enemy carries are. You can theorize about how good -100% base armor is but the radius is tiny, and the Spirit takes time to reach its target.

It's strong against carries like DK and Luna that have low engagement range and limited movement options and get forced to fight under it, but against carries with more mobility than that it's usefulness is a lot more variable. Like AM is a carry that depends heavily on Stats for armor, but he's so mobile that ET doesn't wreck him because he has the means to be selective about whether he fights in the aura.

Troll and Sniper obviously aren't as mobile as AM but with Blink/522 MS they still don't get straightforwardly crushed by Natural Order.
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