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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
March 19 2015 13:12 GMT
#21241
On March 19 2015 09:52 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 08:10 Sn0_Man wrote:
oh god govie is back

You have the power


Haters gonna hate;)
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
March 19 2015 16:01 GMT
#21242
All pure dmg spells kill courier ? Yesterday had a game where qop used ulty and killed a courier by mistake
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 16:02:16
March 19 2015 16:01 GMT
#21243
I think it has to penetrate magic immunity specifically, not just be pure. I'm sure the wiki has a comprehensive explanation if u need to know the minutiae
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
March 19 2015 17:58 GMT
#21244
for example, dismember stuns it but doesn't kill it
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
March 19 2015 18:34 GMT
#21245
On March 20 2015 02:58 KOFgokuon wrote:
for example, dismember stuns it but doesn't kill it


Dismember is not pure dmg, but then again SD ulty kills courier with magical dmg. Dota is wierd.

Qop ulty shouldnt work because its Aoe. In my last game qop was killing the mid hero while courier was delivering item and died behind the hero lol
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 19 2015 18:37 GMT
#21246
again, pure has nothing to do with it. Neither does aoe.
if it penetrates magic immunity, it affects couriers. period. So exactly how pudge ult disables thru bkb but not damages, it does that to couriers too. SD ult slows AND damages through bkb, so same to courier. The only weird one to my knowledge is chrono since couriers lol their way right through that.
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GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
March 19 2015 19:18 GMT
#21247
Demonic Purge does not damage through BKB. The reason it kills couriers is because it actually purges their magic immunity buff off them when you cast it before dealing the damage.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 20:19:09
March 19 2015 20:15 GMT
#21248
Sunstrike doesn't work despite dealing damage through BKB. ;_;
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-19 22:15:27
March 19 2015 22:13 GMT
#21249
On March 20 2015 03:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
SD ult slows AND damages through bkb, so same to courier.

SD ult doesn't do damage through normal magic immunity.
On March 20 2015 04:18 GentleDrill wrote:
Demonic Purge does not damage through BKB. The reason it kills couriers is because it actually purges their magic immunity buff off them when you cast it before dealing the damage.

This is correct. For some reason (most likely just a bug), the DotA 2 courier magic immunity state is purgeable.
On March 20 2015 05:15 Fencar wrote:
Sunstrike doesn't work despite dealing damage through BKB. ;_;

It dealing damage through BKB is a bug in the first place, so it's not surprising that it's inconsistent with other forms of magic immunity, lol.
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Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 02:33:24
March 20 2015 02:30 GMT
#21250
It dealing damage through BKB is a bug in the first place, so it's not surprising that it's inconsistent with other forms of magic immunity, lol.
I thought that when they changed the damage types, pure damage (in general, not including spells that can't specifically target magic-immune things) was supposed to go through bkb?

Edit: nevermind, just looked up 6.82: + Show Spoiler +
The three damage types are Physical, Magical and Pure.

Physical is affected by Physical Armor, Magical is affected by Magical Damage Resistance and Pure is affected by neither.

Magic Immunity has now been renamed to Spell Immunity. Spell Immunity only defines if Spells interact with it, not how damage itself is handled. This means that on its own Spell Immunity status does not reduce any damage.

Black King Bar, Repel, Rage and all other previous forms of "Magic Immunity" now grant Spell Immunity status and a 100% Magic Resistance bonus.

In the vast majority of cases, the interactions are still the same, however an example of a case that would be different is if an ability has both Spell Immunity exception and has Pure damage type. Previously the damage would not have any impact, however now it does.

Ability Tooltips now have these fields:

-Damage Type: Physical/Magical/Pure
-Pierces Spell Immunity: Yes/No

If the Damage Type is not Magical it will be colored differently to make it easier to notice. The same is true in cases where Pierces Spell Immunity is Yes.



Basically a spell needs to penetrate spell immunity and deal pure damage to go through BKB, by my understanding.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-20 02:35:35
March 20 2015 02:35 GMT
#21251
It wasn't even a 6.82 change. Sun Strike didn't damage through BKB in 6.82 and prior. 6.82b changed it to damage through BKB without mentioning it in the patch notes--which seems to imply that the change wasn't intended.
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Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
March 20 2015 02:37 GMT
#21252
OK, thanks for the information!
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 20 2015 11:44 GMT
#21253
yeah spell immunity and damage type have nothing to do with each other
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
March 20 2015 11:45 GMT
#21254
Does anyone have the sound of maim? I keep hearing people making reference to it (either love or hate) but never hear it myself in game.
Best or nothing.
Rodrak
Profile Joined October 2013
United States165 Posts
March 20 2015 16:29 GMT
#21255
What heroes were in the first dota 2 pool? I've tried to find out but I'm having troubs
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
March 20 2015 16:45 GMT
#21256
On March 20 2015 20:45 Quochobao wrote:
Does anyone have the sound of maim? I keep hearing people making reference to it (either love or hate) but never hear it myself in game.

its like bones crushing
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 20 2015 16:49 GMT
#21257
On March 20 2015 20:45 Quochobao wrote:
Does anyone have the sound of maim? I keep hearing people making reference to it (either love or hate) but never hear it myself in game.

http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/1/1b/Maim.mp3
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
March 20 2015 16:54 GMT
#21258
On March 21 2015 01:29 Rodrak wrote:
What heroes were in the first dota 2 pool? I've tried to find out but I'm having troubs


http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/15n74f/dota_2_hero_release_timeline/

Will that do?
Rodrak
Profile Joined October 2013
United States165 Posts
March 20 2015 17:17 GMT
#21259
On March 21 2015 01:54 Vaelone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 01:29 Rodrak wrote:
What heroes were in the first dota 2 pool? I've tried to find out but I'm having troubs


http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/15n74f/dota_2_hero_release_timeline/

Will that do?

Oh yes, thank you for some reason I was having troubles finding it.
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
March 20 2015 19:36 GMT
#21260
Question regarding playing as Slark vs a high-evasion carry like PA - when would you go after MKB, post-SB pre-Skadi?
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