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On March 07 2015 11:02 ahswtini wrote:
yes but i think if you shift blink crush it takes longer as you need to release the shift key, which adds an extra 0.2-ish seconds imo
is this a subtle quickcast joke oh god they're everwhere
yes, my understanding from reading Valve's statement and watching the video is that shift queuing would have prevented the bug for Loda.
You can see the bug cause him to turn in a strange way unnecessarily if you watch the video. He is already turning back to straighten himself out (presumably for the blink) when he casts crush. If crush had been shift queued then he would have correctly blinked first, although the blink would be slower than it should be because it would have to wait for Loda to turn back.
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all i got out of that video is that loda has been playing dota forever and still forgets to tread swap.
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On March 08 2015 05:03 l3loodraven wrote:
all i got out of that video is that loda has been playing dota forever and still forgets to tread swap.
this actually makes me wonder: when did people start tread swapping?
afaik 6.52 was the first competitive patch that had the new treads, which was all the way back in 2008.
the first references to tread swapping I can find on google are from 2010. Specifically it's mentioned in this guide from March 2010: http://www.playdota.com/guides/more-bang-for-your-buck
and here's a guide from lumi in late 2011 about it lol:
+ Show Spoiler +
I stopped playing around 6.52 and didn't come back till after TI2, so I really have no idea when it caught on as something you needed to do. I do know that by the time I came back it was a relatively popular technique. The first time I remember it getting huge attention was when Korok abused tread switching with armlet to regen HP as CK, which was nerfed shortly afterwards. However obviously it was around for a while before that :p
I know this isn't a particularly well defined question, but do any of you know when tread swapping was adopted by the pro scene at large?
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On March 08 2015 15:53 eieio wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2015 05:03 l3loodraven wrote:
all i got out of that video is that loda has been playing dota forever and still forgets to tread swap. this actually makes me wonder: when did people start tread swapping? afaik 6.52 was the first competitive patch that had the new treads, which was all the way back in 2008. the first references to tread swapping I can find on google are from 2010. Specifically it's mentioned in this guide from March 2010: http://www.playdota.com/guides/more-bang-for-your-buckand here's a guide from lumi in late 2011 about it lol: + Show Spoiler +I stopped playing around 6.52 and didn't come back till after TI2, so I really have no idea when it caught on as something you needed to do. I do know that by the time I came back it was a relatively popular technique. The first time I remember it getting huge attention was when Korok abused tread switching with armlet to regen HP as CK, which was nerfed shortly afterwards. However obviously it was around for a while before that :p I know this isn't a particularly well defined question, but do any of you know when tread swapping was adopted by the pro scene at large?
idk but i used to drop hp items for salving and such , figured it out on my own. thats way before +stats treads existed.
im also sure pros in wc3 dropped +hp items when salving in ladder wc3
i guess it was always a known thing
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On March 08 2015 15:59 ChunderBoy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2015 15:53 eieio wrote:On March 08 2015 05:03 l3loodraven wrote:
all i got out of that video is that loda has been playing dota forever and still forgets to tread swap. this actually makes me wonder: when did people start tread swapping? afaik 6.52 was the first competitive patch that had the new treads, which was all the way back in 2008. the first references to tread swapping I can find on google are from 2010. Specifically it's mentioned in this guide from March 2010: http://www.playdota.com/guides/more-bang-for-your-buckand here's a guide from lumi in late 2011 about it lol: + Show Spoiler +I stopped playing around 6.52 and didn't come back till after TI2, so I really have no idea when it caught on as something you needed to do. I do know that by the time I came back it was a relatively popular technique. The first time I remember it getting huge attention was when Korok abused tread switching with armlet to regen HP as CK, which was nerfed shortly afterwards. However obviously it was around for a while before that :p I know this isn't a particularly well defined question, but do any of you know when tread swapping was adopted by the pro scene at large? idk but i used to drop hp items for salving and such , figured it out on my own. thats way before +stats treads existed. im also sure pros in wc3 dropped +hp items when salving in ladder wc3
ya definitely dropping items was a thing, idk why I focused on tread switching tbh
I guess because it's more feasible to do in combat and stuff?
I dunno just curious~
edit: tbh I guess I kinda answered my own question lol, clearly people figured it out over time and it seems to have become relatively general knowledge by the end of 2011.
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On March 08 2015 15:53 eieio wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2015 05:03 l3loodraven wrote:
all i got out of that video is that loda has been playing dota forever and still forgets to tread swap. this actually makes me wonder: when did people start tread swapping? afaik 6.52 was the first competitive patch that had the new treads, which was all the way back in 2008. the first references to tread swapping I can find on google are from 2010. Specifically it's mentioned in this guide from March 2010: http://www.playdota.com/guides/more-bang-for-your-buckand here's a guide from lumi in late 2011 about it lol: + Show Spoiler +I stopped playing around 6.52 and didn't come back till after TI2, so I really have no idea when it caught on as something you needed to do. I do know that by the time I came back it was a relatively popular technique. The first time I remember it getting huge attention was when Korok abused tread switching with armlet to regen HP as CK, which was nerfed shortly afterwards. However obviously it was around for a while before that :p I know this isn't a particularly well defined question, but do any of you know when tread swapping was adopted by the pro scene at large?
it was super common knowledge in hon's closed beta era. I just don't remember what year that was. it had more of an effect in hon because treads gave +10 to the stat
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On March 08 2015 16:52 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2015 15:53 eieio wrote:On March 08 2015 05:03 l3loodraven wrote:
all i got out of that video is that loda has been playing dota forever and still forgets to tread swap. this actually makes me wonder: when did people start tread swapping? afaik 6.52 was the first competitive patch that had the new treads, which was all the way back in 2008. the first references to tread swapping I can find on google are from 2010. Specifically it's mentioned in this guide from March 2010: http://www.playdota.com/guides/more-bang-for-your-buckand here's a guide from lumi in late 2011 about it lol: + Show Spoiler +I stopped playing around 6.52 and didn't come back till after TI2, so I really have no idea when it caught on as something you needed to do. I do know that by the time I came back it was a relatively popular technique. The first time I remember it getting huge attention was when Korok abused tread switching with armlet to regen HP as CK, which was nerfed shortly afterwards. However obviously it was around for a while before that :p I know this isn't a particularly well defined question, but do any of you know when tread swapping was adopted by the pro scene at large? it was super common knowledge in hon's closed beta era. I just don't remember what year that was. it had more of an effect in hon because treads gave +10 to the stat
Treads gave +10 in dota until patch 6.70, which was right around the end of 2010, I am pretty sure that was just after Hon started making their own changes instead of just copying Dota. I remember before that patch treads were mandatory on basically every hero, even supports would find the +10 strength too valuable to pass over.
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This is not much strategy related, but still SQSA, so:
Where can I find the low-res league logos from Liquipedia? Couldn't figure it out on my own since links are convoluted.
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I feel so noob for asking but what does hero position mean? For example when people describe picking "X as a 4 pos hero"? Like the 4th pick?
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it means their position how high their farming priority is, usually safelane carry is 1, mid 2, offlane 3, farm dependent support 4 and farm independent support 5.
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The number system is farm priority. Lower number = gets more farm.
So usually:
#1 safelane carry
#2 mid
#3 offlaner
#4 greedy support
#5 hard support
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On March 08 2015 19:38 Clarty wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2015 16:52 Nevuk wrote:On March 08 2015 15:53 eieio wrote:On March 08 2015 05:03 l3loodraven wrote:
all i got out of that video is that loda has been playing dota forever and still forgets to tread swap. this actually makes me wonder: when did people start tread swapping? afaik 6.52 was the first competitive patch that had the new treads, which was all the way back in 2008. the first references to tread swapping I can find on google are from 2010. Specifically it's mentioned in this guide from March 2010: http://www.playdota.com/guides/more-bang-for-your-buckand here's a guide from lumi in late 2011 about it lol: + Show Spoiler +I stopped playing around 6.52 and didn't come back till after TI2, so I really have no idea when it caught on as something you needed to do. I do know that by the time I came back it was a relatively popular technique. The first time I remember it getting huge attention was when Korok abused tread switching with armlet to regen HP as CK, which was nerfed shortly afterwards. However obviously it was around for a while before that :p I know this isn't a particularly well defined question, but do any of you know when tread swapping was adopted by the pro scene at large? it was super common knowledge in hon's closed beta era. I just don't remember what year that was. it had more of an effect in hon because treads gave +10 to the stat Treads gave +10 in dota until patch 6.70, which was right around the end of 2010, I am pretty sure that was just after Hon started making their own changes instead of just copying Dota. I remember before that patch treads were mandatory on basically every hero, even supports would find the +10 strength too valuable to pass over.
Well that was also before Tranquil Boots existed so as a support you didn't really have any other reasonable option if you didn't want arcanes.
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On March 09 2015 06:31 Belisarius wrote:
The number system is farm priority. Lower number = gets more farm.
So usually:
#1 safelane carry
#2 mid
#3 offlaner
#4 greedy support
#5 hard support
To elaborate a bit this is USUALLY the case with 90% of teams but sometimes it gets switched up. As mentioned it's farm priority and sometimes (especially recent times) the mid laner is the one who gets the most farm priority and is thus "#1" despite not being the safelaner. This usually happens when your mid is something like a Morphling, Shadow Fiend, Tiny etc.
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In pubs it sometimes runs like this:
#1 Mid
#2 Jungler
#3 Safe lane farmer
#4 Offlaner
#5 Solo support
Although many players even think of it like this:
#1 Me
#2-4 I don't care
#5 The random agi hero soaking up my XP.
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yeah in most pubs its more like:
#1 farms
#2 farms
#3 farms
#4 farms
#5 buys first wards and courier, farms, flames cores for not carrying them
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On March 09 2015 10:08 l3loodraven wrote:
#5 buys most/all wards, courier, upgrade, dewards, buys/drops dust, flames cores for not being fundamentally competent at Dota 2
Edited to reflect my average game supporting.
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I was just wondering how to practice best with invoker, or any hero really?
Wasn't there a sort of test functionality with gaining max lvls and such, refresh at will etc. Anyone?
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On March 09 2015 17:33 sch0n wrote:
I was just wondering how to practice best with invoker, or any hero really?
Wasn't there a sort of test functionality with gaining max lvls and such, refresh at will etc. Anyone?
host a lobby, check the box that says enable cheats
list of commands here: http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Cheats
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How does Tinker handle Zeus at mid? Who wins this on paper?
The issue I was having was that his burst damage outranged my laser so he was able to keep me back from the keep wave but I couldn't do the same to him. I bought a magic stick but he doesn't spam his spells quite enough to make it worth it, I realized.
Never died, just kind of went underfarmed for a while.
Enchantress in the jungle wasn't really helping w/ healing or tangos but whatever.
EDIT - opened with null talisman and 2 branches to help w last hits a bit and bought bottle then BoT directly. Crowing bottle for health/mana but Zeus kept zapping me (that shit hurts).
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