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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
February 06 2015 15:12 GMT
#20581
if you call "pause", "time out", we can all move along.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
February 06 2015 15:35 GMT
#20582
On February 07 2015 00:00 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 23:33 FFGenerations wrote:
so yesterday? i saw Super pause a game for like 3 seconds to co-ordinate his team into immediately performing a gank. the pause was 100% responsible for giving them the time they needed to communicate the engagement and succeed the gank.

today i see Chuan pause a game for 3 seconds in order to allow his SF to think about how to escape. the pause was like 100% responsible for giving the SF the time he needed to decide how to escape.

IS IT JUST ME OR IS THIS COMPLETE BULLSHIT AND THE TEAMS SHOULD BE DISQUALIFIED?

THIS HAPPENS TOURNEY AFTER TOURNEY AND HONESTLY I CAN'T TELL IF ITS JUST ME BEING "ANAL" OR IS THIS ACTUALLY BLATENT CHEATING INFRONT OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND JUST NO1 HAS THE BALLS TO CALL THEM OUT???

huh did this actually happen the way you described? cuz i'm pretty sure reddit will have raised it if it were true


of course they happened.
lgd vs ig played like 1 hour ago,
the shadowfiend is running for his life from 4 heroes, we are all waiting for him to die,
suddenly chaun pause the game and say LAG in capital letters (they are on a LAN??),
the commentator says "oh, theres the tactical pause"
3 second later they unpause, the shadowfiend jukes up and around some tree and tps out


i was in shock just because i was disgusted by the pause i saw yesterday and was thinking "chaun played amazing with windrunner he is awesome" and then suddenly he literally does the same disqualifiable behaviour


but you can see from the responses that dota community is a bit shit (compared to sc), 4 people reply and 3 of them are trolling/talking shit/saying "if u dont like it then gtfo"
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 06 2015 15:37 GMT
#20583
spams capslock in SQSA
get's told to gtfo to a better thread
"it's the community's fault"
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 06 2015 15:38 GMT
#20584
they can definitely still lag cuz they aren't on a real LAN they are just all in the same place playing on regular chinese dota servers. I don't think PW set up a proper LAN (which is ungodly expensive for dota because you have to duplicate essentially the entire dota2 network), that literally only occurs at the Internationals.

If you want to discuss it, which is absolutely fine, find a thread where it belongs or make one. Preferably include clips of it happening etc.

Please don't bring it up in this thread again though. It doesn't belong here at all.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 15:58:14
February 06 2015 15:56 GMT
#20585
On February 07 2015 00:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
they can definitely still lag cuz they aren't on a real LAN they are just all in the same place playing on regular chinese dota servers. I don't think PW set up a proper LAN (which is ungodly expensive for dota because you have to duplicate essentially the entire dota2 network), that literally only occurs at the Internationals.

The problem isn't that LAN is expensive to set up, it's that any LAN other than Valve's TI setup doesn't support DotATV.

Actually hosting a LAN game isn't that absurd, it's basically just hosting a local lobby, which you can already do.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 06 2015 16:03 GMT
#20586
well thats basically what I was trying to say. For dota LAN matches to hit DotaTV you need to duplicate the entire Dota2 network on a slightly smaller scale which is unreasonable generally.

I get that you can do local lobbies and simple LAN already no problem.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
February 06 2015 16:24 GMT
#20587
There have been "ka le" pauses throughout the tournament
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
February 06 2015 17:02 GMT
#20588
On February 07 2015 01:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
For dota LAN matches to hit DotaTV you need to duplicate the entire Dota2 network on a slightly smaller scale which is unreasonable generally.

I get that you can do local lobbies and simple LAN already no problem.

DotaTV is basically a hidden spectator proxy connected to the game server, also being the source of replays from games. There's surely a reason for which you can't host your own proxy and make it connect to the Game Coordinator or whatever master server is there, but I don't see it yet.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
February 06 2015 17:09 GMT
#20589
On February 07 2015 02:02 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 01:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
For dota LAN matches to hit DotaTV you need to duplicate the entire Dota2 network on a slightly smaller scale which is unreasonable generally.

I get that you can do local lobbies and simple LAN already no problem.

DotaTV is basically a hidden spectator proxy connected to the game server, also being the source of replays from games. There's surely a reason for which you can't host your own proxy and make it connect to the Game Coordinator or whatever master server is there, but I don't see it yet.

I mean this is probably something only valve can set up, and probably what they do for the International only
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 17:12:40
February 06 2015 17:11 GMT
#20590
I talked to a valve employee about it ages ago and he basically said "yeah we could do it but we'd have to rewrite dotatv from the ground up and since ppl at valve do whatever the fuck they want nobody's wokring on it atm"

got a similar response for "making dotatv not suck ass from china"

There's like some possibility that with the Source 2 engine overhaul things happen? If nothing else u can be sure that they won't actually do anything till they are done Source 2 porting I think.
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ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
February 06 2015 17:22 GMT
#20591
the stuff on venge. trying to make sure your carry always has vengence aura in fights to an absurd extent is the easiest way to lose on venge.

unless you know you are going to offensively swap, you need to make sure you get your swap off to break chain stun combos, then you can risk dying by getting close to carry.

and the offensive vs defensive is totally situational, usually you need level 3 swap for offensive to be really effective, also need them to have no big counter-initiators. for example if they have a tidehunter and you swap someone, tide will just immediately blink ravage your team saving them.
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Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
February 06 2015 18:02 GMT
#20592
Do Split Shot and Flak Cannon hits on heroes carry Quelling Blade bonus damage when the original attack hit a creep?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 06 2015 18:10 GMT
#20593
No.
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Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
February 06 2015 20:56 GMT
#20594
Is their any hero that counters Jugg. I use Nyx but he is a soft counter at best since while Jugg does get MoM he has better strength gain than Void making him harder to kill and then their is bladefury magic immunity
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 06 2015 21:42 GMT
#20595
Axe and Chen are both strong picks against Jugg that are also strong currently in their own right.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 21:54:42
February 06 2015 21:48 GMT
#20596
bane even if you cant grip him, you can still lower his damage output or put him to sleep. Against riki its the same, if you Q riki the damage even at high levels will be close to 0. Bane is a cancerous hero, bkbs dont work, linkens sphere less usefull, their items+skills are useless when asleep, ulti also suckisucki mana, cant stop him being an asshole & the the aghs septer change is descent. If you want to counter an overpowered hero, bane support is good imo.
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
February 06 2015 22:38 GMT
#20597
On February 07 2015 05:56 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
Is their any hero that counters Jugg. I use Nyx but he is a soft counter at best since while Jugg does get MoM he has better strength gain than Void making him harder to kill and then their is bladefury magic immunity
pick storm, rush orchid, abuse his pre-manta timing. very important to initiate from a decent distance for the extra burst damage, just make sure you have enough mana to get out if you have to.
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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-07 02:43:03
February 07 2015 02:41 GMT
#20598
On February 07 2015 05:56 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
Is their any hero that counters Jugg. I use Nyx but he is a soft counter at best since while Jugg does get MoM he has better strength gain than Void making him harder to kill and then their is bladefury magic immunity


Pugna is a pretty decent counter since you can Decrepify yourself and low-HP teammates who are currently being or are at risk of being Omnislashed. Omniknight is okay as well but GA has a very long cooldown. Puck isn't really a "counter" but she can at least phase/orb to safety (Storm would be in the same class, good call there). And then there's Axe who has a high chance of surviving and can Call through spin.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
February 07 2015 02:49 GMT
#20599
For pros who played Dota1, have the majority stuck with Dota 1 hot keys or have many went to QWER? Or some other custom hotkey setup?
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 07 2015 02:51 GMT
#20600
On February 07 2015 11:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
For pros who played Dota1, have the majority stuck with Dota 1 hot keys or have many went to QWER? Or some other custom hotkey setup?

It's a mix. I believe that the majority of pros use QWER instead of legacy at this point but I don't have data to back that up. Some pros use a custom setup; I know for example that H4nn1 uses ASDF instead.
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