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Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
December 18 2014 14:37 GMT
#20081
Just get wand w/ your likely null talisman, bottle and phase if you're worried about HP/MP reserves.
Erase and improve
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
December 18 2014 15:07 GMT
#20082
Blink-> Euls is like 5k to land LSA. Eugh.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 18 2014 15:25 GMT
#20083
I think carry lina is about procs, so maybe blink+euls+ptreads+molnjir+mkb+aghs-->sheep+bots for euls+pt's lategame might work, but if you get that far in the game you allready lost i think. Maybe a midas could be nice tho, more procs too.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 17:03:21
December 18 2014 17:02 GMT
#20084
I have a friend who frequently plays carry lina very well.

phase/treads eul's aghs then right click situational items is his typical item build. the transition into right clicks usually after the mid game when her nuke is the most potent thing in her arsenal.

if you go phase euls, you don't really need the blink to land your LSA. completely situational, for instance, if there is a faceless void or some initiator you want to avoid.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 18 2014 17:26 GMT
#20085
On December 19 2014 00:07 hariooo wrote:
Blink-> Euls is like 5k to land LSA. Eugh.

Or you do it for 3k with Lothar's which also gives you autoattack stats.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 17:46:47
December 18 2014 17:46 GMT
#20086
why bother, you need euls for survivability and enough mana to keep up 3 stacks. But then you should be building damage and bkb on carry lina instead of cute tricks
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#20087
On December 19 2014 02:46 Kupon3ss wrote:
why bother, you need euls for survivability and enough mana to keep up 3 stacks. But then you should be building damage and bkb on carry lina instead of cute tricks

I wasn't being completely serious. Though really I don't think there's anything wrong with getting Arcanes for the mana issue.
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
December 18 2014 18:10 GMT
#20088
Lothars is 2.8k now anyways
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
December 18 2014 19:20 GMT
#20089
Eul's is enough guys.

Or waitwaitwait Atos. Walk up while they're struggling to run and be like whatupigotabigstun.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
December 18 2014 22:37 GMT
#20090
Alright, I got raped in the laning stage. It was Spectre(me) and Shadow Shaman (dire safelane) vs QoP/WD. The SS started pulling from the start and WD/QOP just harassed the fuck out of me. Not looking to QQ, what could I have done better? because my game was just utter shit.

In hindsight I either should have tped to another lane or...I don't know.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 18 2014 23:06 GMT
#20091
Get xp, sneak lasthits, don't die, use ulti to piggyback off someone else's tempo and farm in the midgame.

You're Spectre, you don't need to do *that* well early game (and if they pick good lanes against you, you're not a strong enough laner anyway). Just don't let the disadvantage snowball and get what you can. As long as you do that and manage your midgame tempo well, "losing" the lane doesn't really matter.

Most important thing to do in those kinds of lanes is remember to fuck with creep aggro to get creeps near you to lasthit (A-click an enemy hero in creep aggro range then immediately back off so some of the creeps come toward you, allowing you to lasthit them from a safer position).
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-18 23:18:33
December 18 2014 23:17 GMT
#20092
What items you go for yango? (important part i think) I'd say try to get some components of a vangaurd until the rotation or no?
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Varth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States426 Posts
December 18 2014 23:21 GMT
#20093
The general consensus is get a stout/pms then a roh if you are under a lot of harass but not so much that they can burst you down and allows you to jungle. You then make your radiance and later turn the roh into a refresher orb
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 18 2014 23:21 GMT
#20094
bracer yasha then if you can radi or complete the manta into diffu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
December 19 2014 07:26 GMT
#20095
casual roh is rly gold inefficieny, u can buy 8 min worth of tangoes for the same money
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 07:41:01
December 19 2014 07:40 GMT
#20096
On December 19 2014 08:17 govie wrote:
What items you go for yango? (important part i think) I'd say try to get some components of a vangaurd until the rotation or no?

Depends on game and how "bad" it is. Urn, Bracer, Stick/Wand, Phase Boots upgrade all reasonable depending on how much you're getting in the bad lane.

On December 19 2014 08:21 Varth wrote:
The general consensus is get a stout/pms then a roh if you are under a lot of harass but not so much that they can burst you down and allows you to jungle. You then make your radiance and later turn the roh into a refresher orb

If you're in a really suppressive 2v2/etc. it's hard to save for the RoH and it isn't that impactful when you get it.
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aboxcar
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States447 Posts
December 19 2014 07:47 GMT
#20097
On December 19 2014 07:37 hooahah wrote:
Alright, I got raped in the laning stage. It was Spectre(me) and Shadow Shaman (dire safelane) vs QoP/WD. The SS started pulling from the start and WD/QOP just harassed the fuck out of me. Not looking to QQ, what could I have done better? because my game was just utter shit.

In hindsight I either should have tped to another lane or...I don't know.

this scenario is probably negative value no matter who is playing it or how well it's played tbh..
everything that rises must converge
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
December 19 2014 18:20 GMT
#20098
Does diffusal not get rid of refraction? Played ursa against ta right now and it looked like it didnt.
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 19 2014 18:21 GMT
#20099
It does not
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-19 19:04:30
December 19 2014 19:03 GMT
#20100
On December 19 2014 16:47 aboxcar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2014 07:37 hooahah wrote:
Alright, I got raped in the laning stage. It was Spectre(me) and Shadow Shaman (dire safelane) vs QoP/WD. The SS started pulling from the start and WD/QOP just harassed the fuck out of me. Not looking to QQ, what could I have done better? because my game was just utter shit.

In hindsight I either should have tped to another lane or...I don't know.

this scenario is probably negative value no matter who is playing it or how well it's played tbh..


I wouldn't necessarily say that. They're running a level dependent QoP and a WD who wants level 6 badly in a lane without much pulling opportunity. So long as your support can still find XP and you can not die you should be in pretty reasonable shape. You're taking away some of QoP's momentum by having her in a dual lane and as spectre especially you can find the farm later if your team can create space since you don't need to follow them around for teamfights.
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