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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
December 19 2014 22:40 GMT
#20101
how many games to get to ranked play/lv13? i think 150?? (so many.....)
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
December 19 2014 23:02 GMT
#20102
Why does valve decide that when I get a triple kill and force a buyback at 4 minutes that it's appropriate timing to drop the game... 4 game drops tonight
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 19 2014 23:05 GMT
#20103
Please keep that kind of comment in the QQ thread. This thread is for simple questions about mechanics and basic strategy.
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BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 18:39:21
December 21 2014 18:33 GMT
#20104
Did anyone catch Kuro's 1-1-1-1 with all other points in stats (through level 9 I think?) on Jugger in the XMG Captains Draft tourny? Is that legit or just niche?
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 21 2014 18:47 GMT
#20105
i think he just wanted max attack speed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 19:28:03
December 21 2014 19:27 GMT
#20106
On December 22 2014 03:33 BoZiffer wrote:
Did anyone catch Kuro's 1-1-1-1 with all other points in stats (through level 9 I think?) on Jugger in the XMG Captains Draft tourny? Is that legit or just niche?

Given his item and skill progression he was going for hard carry with emphasis on ult for fighting (MoM good for farm + Omni, stats good for farm + omni, crit [first maxed skill after Omni] with MoM good for farm + omni). It's a little more extreme than the way I've run Jugg recently but yeah the basic idea is that you farm fast and Omni hard.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 19:58:14
December 21 2014 19:58 GMT
#20107
GD did it sometimes with mom+molnjir+aghs+refresher i think, he said something like that on stream. Be sure to pop it in combination with the omnislashes.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 21 2014 20:13 GMT
#20108
By the way there is a huge discussion about this in the Jugg thread.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
BoZiffer
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1841 Posts
December 21 2014 20:28 GMT
#20109
On December 22 2014 05:13 FHDH wrote:
By the way there is a huge discussion about this in the Jugg thread.


Oh, my apologies. I figured this was a more recent thing due to the agi buff he got.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 21:27:33
December 21 2014 21:27 GMT
#20110
On December 22 2014 05:28 BoZiffer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2014 05:13 FHDH wrote:
By the way there is a huge discussion about this in the Jugg thread.


Oh, my apologies. I figured this was a more recent thing due to the agi buff he got.

Well one, as has come up in here before, it's fine to ask a hero-specific question in this thread (until mods decide otherwise) so don't feel bad and b) it pre-dates the patch and that game so it's more about the *type* of build he was doing (among others) but not that specific build. Which was pretty XTREME.

So no apologies needed, just letting you know there's a lot more discussion over there.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3807 Posts
December 22 2014 05:11 GMT
#20111
When a skill provides shared vision does that also mean I can see invisible enemies even though I don't have true sight?
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 06:18:43
December 22 2014 06:18 GMT
#20112
no skill but track/amplify does that sorry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 22 2014 06:32 GMT
#20113
To clarify, you can't see OTHER invisible enemies, but the two skills that provide shared vision do reveal the target if they are invisible.

Interestingly though, given differences in how shared vision works in DotA 1 and DotA 2, Track/Amp Damage on Aghanim's Night Stalker or KotL gives flying vision over them as per their Aghanim's upgrades (DotA 1 Track/Amp Damage don't get this benefit).
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mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3807 Posts
December 22 2014 12:45 GMT
#20114
Ok, thanks for the insight guys.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
December 22 2014 12:59 GMT
#20115
On December 20 2014 08:02 TyrionSC2 wrote:
Why does valve decide that when I get a triple kill and force a buyback at 4 minutes that it's appropriate timing to drop the game... 4 game drops tonight


how do you force a buyback at 4 minutes?
Recoil
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States276 Posts
December 22 2014 18:53 GMT
#20116
I'm only 2.5k MMR still have a lot to learn about executing optimally in engagements. I play a bit of Lion and this question always comes to mind with him and any other heros with a big Nuke.

Is it better to use Finger (or other big nuke) on a hero who is clearly about to about to be killed or should it be used on a tankier hero to get them down quicker? Or is it purely a decision of the value of the hero: use on a carry before a support.


FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 19:05:13
December 22 2014 19:03 GMT
#20117
On December 23 2014 03:53 Recoil wrote:
I'm only 2.5k MMR still have a lot to learn about executing optimally in engagements. I play a bit of Lion and this question always comes to mind with him and any other heros with a big Nuke.

Is it better to use Finger (or other big nuke) on a hero who is clearly about to about to be killed or should it be used on a tankier hero to get them down quicker? Or is it purely a decision of the value of the hero: use on a carry before a support.



Sometimes taking out a support early in an engagement is the best thing you can do. Or it could be securing the death of the carry. It totally depends on team composition and situation, what cooldowns are up and what is down. For example if you were facing a Lion instead of playing him, if you can secure a kill on him before he gets off finger that is a valuable kill.

Psychology is also a factor. Even though people know that certain cooldowns exist, it is often highly effective to draw them into a situation where they - as individuals and sometimes consequently as a team - overextend so the spell has the maximum effect. As such, depending on the tactical situation (your ability to survive or get into position to finger an enemy at the optimal time may be in question), it is nearly always better to save finger until it is either lethal or close to it. Finger should generally secure a kill. It can also be used to repel aggression if you don't think you can actually kill that enemy but believe you can scare them off at a vital time (protecting your carry or your rax, etc).

These, and many more things are all are factors you will want to take into consideration. However, quick synthesis of the tactical and strategic situation only comes with experience. Lion was my first favorite hero and he is pretty strong in the right hands, and part of that is definitely knowing when to use Finger, so it's good you're thinking about it, but there is definitely no simple answer.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
December 22 2014 19:39 GMT
#20118
Is the dark blot on the ground from Shadow Amulet visible to both teams?
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
December 22 2014 20:21 GMT
#20119
I tried selling cheese yesterday and the game kept on telling me that the item cannot be sold

something to note is that my ursa picked it up and dropped it before I got it

Is this just bug or what?
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 20:23:50
December 22 2014 20:23 GMT
#20120
you can't sell his cheese
only the person who picks it up first can sell it
its always been that way
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