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saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
September 13 2019 14:32 GMT
#7041
This kinda hurts, both in terms of seeing such a great TI team go, but also for the level of competitiveness in dota. I can't quite watch dota 2 the same knowing these guys don't exist. Dota is going to be soo one sided now that a dominant team such as TL doesn't exist.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
September 13 2019 14:48 GMT
#7042
RIP
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 13 2019 14:49 GMT
#7043
;_;
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
September 13 2019 15:23 GMT
#7044
On September 13 2019 23:32 saocyn wrote:
This kinda hurts, both in terms of seeing such a great TI team go, but also for the level of competitiveness in dota. I can't quite watch dota 2 the same knowing these guys don't exist. Dota is going to be soo one sided now that a dominant team such as TL doesn't exist.


I don't think they said the players are separating from each other, just the organization.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
September 13 2019 15:24 GMT
#7045
I wonder what is the incentive here if they keep as 5 (leaving one of the best esport orgs) , as in anything in modern life i guess its about money one way or the other.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
September 13 2019 15:48 GMT
#7046
It could be money, but also they might be unhappy with some of the surrounding stuff. Or Kuro just want to be owner and think of other job when not being a top player any more.
GO OG
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
September 13 2019 18:54 GMT
#7047
damn this is though. i will continue to support the boys, wherever they go, hope these 5 stay together. of course i will also support any new liquid team, but my heart is with kuro and the boys
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-13 19:04:07
September 13 2019 18:56 GMT
#7048
I doubt it's because of money. Kuro alone has made just north of $5 million. He's set for life, basically. The rest of the team isn't far behind. Before my next statement I'll go ahead and say that even though I work for Liquid I don't know numbers. I don't know the cut the org takes or what the players earned per month, I don't ask and they probably wouldn't tell me even if I did. But the impression I get is that Liquid doesn't take a big cut.

I think, and I can't remember if Kuro said this in the video or not so not gonna make claims, it's about legacy more than anything. One person I know in the scene, who frequently hangs around investors and other very rich people, said that the one thing they care about is their legacy and reputation. Money has almost lost meaning to these people. Not saying Kuro is there but I honestly think this is all about legacy. Because that's not something that Liquid can really offer. Liquid is Victor and Steve's child. They can't help Kuro build a legacy beyond Dota 2.

What I AM worried about is how the team will do with sponsorship, sales, merch, social media, and media commitments. They haven't always been the easiest team to work with, which is a shame cause they're all really good people and I think that if they opened up to content a lot of people would see that. Hopefully they'll be more invested now when they have to run their own org.

I'm still gonna be rooting for them... well when they don't play us!
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
noh2o
Profile Joined August 2017
China71 Posts
September 13 2019 22:35 GMT
#7049
@NInoff @hunter_x @juuto
continue to support the boys
my twitter is noh2o971
see u in twitter
w33 is the best mid player
derElbe
Profile Joined February 2009
Germany571 Posts
September 14 2019 05:26 GMT
#7050
I will keep supporting the Jungz as well!

but this is a TL thread:

so did the discussion who would fit liquid already start?
let's thorugh some names:
ppd? Ramzes?`Abed?
Hoejja - Bisu - Leenock - TLO
Qualitaetsgarant
Profile Joined April 2018
124 Posts
September 15 2019 08:36 GMT
#7051
On September 14 2019 14:26 derElbe wrote:
I will keep supporting the Jungz as well!

but this is a TL thread:

so did the discussion who would fit liquid already start?


Agreed, time to remove the picture of the team from the starting page of this thread.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 15 2019 17:20 GMT
#7052
Damn.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
September 15 2019 18:05 GMT
#7053
On September 15 2019 17:36 Qualitaetsgarant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2019 14:26 derElbe wrote:
I will keep supporting the Jungz as well!

but this is a TL thread:

so did the discussion who would fit liquid already start?


Agreed, time to remove the picture of the team from the starting page of this thread.


Why u want update on photo and not line up, think it's pretty out of data with Bulbs and Ixmike
GO OG
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-16 07:16:05
September 16 2019 07:13 GMT
#7054
On September 14 2019 03:56 Julmust wrote:
I doubt it's because of money. Kuro alone has made just north of $5 million. He's set for life, basically. The rest of the team isn't far behind. Before my next statement I'll go ahead and say that even though I work for Liquid I don't know numbers. I don't know the cut the org takes or what the players earned per month, I don't ask and they probably wouldn't tell me even if I did. But the impression I get is that Liquid doesn't take a big cut.

I think, and I can't remember if Kuro said this in the video or not so not gonna make claims, it's about legacy more than anything. One person I know in the scene, who frequently hangs around investors and other very rich people, said that the one thing they care about is their legacy and reputation. Money has almost lost meaning to these people. Not saying Kuro is there but I honestly think this is all about legacy. Because that's not something that Liquid can really offer. Liquid is Victor and Steve's child. They can't help Kuro build a legacy beyond Dota 2.

What I AM worried about is how the team will do with sponsorship, sales, merch, social media, and media commitments. They haven't always been the easiest team to work with, which is a shame cause they're all really good people and I think that if they opened up to content a lot of people would see that. Hopefully they'll be more invested now when they have to run their own org.

I'm still gonna be rooting for them... well when they don't play us!


When you talk about Business in two of your three interviews it is always about money. And if it is about money, its bad for the game, its bad for the fans. It really is.
If you talk about Fun, passion and family thats how you build your legacy, and thats how you win Tournaments whenever you want, if you don't believe me check last two TIs.

I love the boys, but now i need some days to think...
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
September 17 2019 00:09 GMT
#7055
if they decide to part with w33, i think it would be interesting if they get sumail.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Julmust
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Sweden4867 Posts
September 18 2019 12:39 GMT
#7056
first page image updated in a homage to the greatest liquid player of all time!
AdministratorI'm dancing in the moonlight
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
September 18 2019 16:58 GMT
#7057
...
Moderator
RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
September 19 2019 00:19 GMT
#7058
the world is not ready for this lineup.
How do u doto?
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
September 19 2019 05:02 GMT
#7059
OMG! That is so stupid! ... I like it!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
the3rdiii
Profile Joined August 2019
8 Posts
September 19 2019 07:34 GMT
#7060
On September 18 2019 21:39 Julmust wrote:
first page image updated in a homage to the greatest liquid player of all time!


Oh, come on man the salty is real huh? At least give them some respect.
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