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Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
January 14 2016 16:51 GMT
#681
On January 15 2016 00:30 Talin wrote:
Welp, we might get to play Alliance anyway :D

Now that would be one hell of a match these days.
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
January 14 2016 23:31 GMT
#682
So proud of my boy Kuroky and the team!

Amazing performance so far. Hopefully they can stay on their level!
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
January 15 2016 02:39 GMT
#683
On January 14 2016 09:16 ptbl wrote:
Hey guys, I've been making an effort to stop being so negative, so I stayed away from posting for the past couple of weeks. I was so happy when Liquid qualified for the Major. I'm hoping for a championship at Starladder. Let's go Liquid!

Always a silver lining baby
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
January 16 2016 14:31 GMT
#684
nice matumba interview from starladder
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
January 16 2016 16:10 GMT
#685
Boys nerves getting to them, regroup and comeback strong!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
January 16 2016 16:12 GMT
#686
I don't think we're going to get Earth Spirit again so it's going to be even harder :/
f0xteam
Profile Joined December 2015
79 Posts
January 16 2016 17:05 GMT
#687
rekt
kek
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 16 2016 17:07 GMT
#688
the only positive thing is that a choke on that level should not repeat itself at Shanghai :/
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
fajo
Profile Joined January 2016
18 Posts
January 16 2016 17:08 GMT
#689
So what's the take on Alliance's direct invite now?
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
January 16 2016 17:09 GMT
#690
On January 17 2016 02:08 fajo wrote:
So what's the take on Alliance's direct invite now?

can you plz get out?
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
January 16 2016 17:12 GMT
#691
well looked liked nerves got to them. mind control in particular played really bad. looked like a whole diffrent team. just sad to see them lose like this, after a great group stage...
f0xteam
Profile Joined December 2015
79 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-16 17:14:36
January 16 2016 17:13 GMT
#692
On January 17 2016 02:08 fajo wrote:
So what's the take on Alliance's direct invite now?


now it seems more correctly but the thing is invs were sent before todays game where liquid had a score like 5 or 6-0 against alliance so the take is the same. if the invs were now it would be right to inv both liquid and alliance i think
kek
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-16 17:15:55
January 16 2016 17:14 GMT
#693
creates account to troll fan forum...

Liquid got baited into drafting dp and no stuns, she's so mediocre without lockdown to help her out. Kinda feels like kky got mind gamed. Oh, and MC still needs to learn how to pro dota under pressure, been a while since he looked that bad on dark seer

Fair point. Alliance>Liquid>VP? if re-inviting?
fajo
Profile Joined January 2016
18 Posts
January 16 2016 17:16 GMT
#694
On January 17 2016 02:13 f0xteam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2016 02:08 fajo wrote:
So what's the take on Alliance's direct invite now?


now it seems more correctly but the thing is invs were sent before todays game where liquid had a score like 5 or 6-0 against alliance so the take is the same. if the invs were now it would be right to inv both liquid and alliance i think


I always thought the WCA win was undervalued too much. But anyways good games!
xyzz
Profile Joined January 2012
567 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-16 17:31:42
January 16 2016 17:20 GMT
#695
Mind_Control is going to get kicked after the Shanghai Major when the transfer window opens up again. And I don't think anyone's ever going to give FATA a Death Prophet again. His play on that hero was embarassingly bad, but on top of it all Death Prophet's win rate in pro games is about 25%, so the fact the hero was even picked is on kuroky's shoulders.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
January 16 2016 17:21 GMT
#696
I'm a bit sad it ended like this, it feels like nerves played a big role in those games. In general I feel Mind_control is underwhelming and limited. Most of the games Liquid stomped in the group stage where were he was just staying in his lane. His Dark Seer is good but at the same time never feels like it wins games and Liquid highly prioritize it.
I think esports is pretty nice.
f0xteam
Profile Joined December 2015
79 Posts
January 16 2016 17:36 GMT
#697
On January 17 2016 02:21 Saechiis wrote:
I'm a bit sad it ended like this, it feels like nerves played a big role in those games. In general I feel Mind_control is underwhelming and limited. Most of the games Liquid stomped in the group stage where were he was just staying in his lane. His Dark Seer is good but at the same time never feels like it wins games and Liquid highly prioritize it.



today everyone played bad i dont think kuro is thinking about kicking players. its still 3th-4th at starladder. its alliance's patch but liquid looks good at it too.
kek
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-16 17:45:10
January 16 2016 17:36 GMT
#698
Let's not be too hasty, good offlaners aren't that easy to come by. MC's vacuum-walls have won more fights than I can count in the past.

There were some apparent issues in communication though, such as making Jerax go back and forth in game 2, or the fight call in game 1 where Jerax just saved Matumbaman but then they turned and fought for no reason.

Strategy-wise I feel like going dual-core with proper scaling cores with reliable damage output is the way to go this patch (so far at least), all the Death Prophets and Zeuses and QoPs failed flat on their face. It just seems too easy to shut down the 1 position hero or isolate him in fights and then the team is left without any damage output that doesn't revolve around cooldowns and/or just magic damage.

Edit: also I had a gut feeling that Alliance was going to win this tournament since like day 2. We'll see what happens, EG might have just enough raw quality to stop their momentum.
viermalvier
Profile Joined December 2009
Austria115 Posts
January 16 2016 17:39 GMT
#699
On January 17 2016 02:21 Saechiis wrote:
In general I feel Mind_control is underwhelming and limited.


just look at bulldong, he came into the scene as a one hero player - it just needs time.
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
January 16 2016 17:58 GMT
#700
Fault lies with kuro drafting only earth spirit as their disable for 2 games.
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