• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:49
CET 15:49
KST 23:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win02026 KungFu Cup Announcement5BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains16Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains GSL CK - New online series BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] #2: Team Classic vs. Team Solar [GSL CK] #1: Team Maru vs. Team herO RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion Gypsy to Korea BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread Formula 1 Discussion General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1854 users

Team Liquid Discussion - Page 152

Forum Index > Dota 2 Player & Team Discussion
Post a Reply
Prev 1 150 151 152 153 154 361 Next
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 22:38:56
November 03 2016 22:38 GMT
#3021
I feel like if Matu doesn't like certain heroes in his role they should have come up with a playstyle based on different drafts instead of forcing it.

There definitely seems to have been a bit of a conflict about how the team should be playing, but at least going by today's drafts they seem to be over it now. Hopefully they're still ok internally and there's no lingering resentment or anything.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 03 2016 22:42 GMT
#3022
Yeah but it's really tough to avoid Luna/Drow strats these days, they are just really strong
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 03 2016 22:46 GMT
#3023
On November 04 2016 07:33 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 07:30 LemOn wrote:
Kuro spoken, says he doesn't want to go on carry but Matumba just sucked on drow, luna in scrims and wants to avoid it from now on.
Also he's glad he has a position4 specialist so he can focus on playing 5 and leading the team (again, never even gave Bulba a chance with the Ogre/Oracle picks for him constantly. But with GH he doesn't have to - he only plays 4 heroes)

literally bulba the scapegoat

amazing.

Dude we all get it, you defend bulba even if u dont know anything. Maybe bulba as in game leader together with kuro just didnt work out? Some players dont have good chemistry together, look at secret with universe. If kicking bulba helps the team, how can you seriously blame them? They want to win, you know?
Jinkku
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland36 Posts
November 03 2016 22:49 GMT
#3024
I dont get why some of you keep this narrative up that it somehow isn't Bulbas fault at all. Like he didnt get chances or whatever..

this is exactly what most people predicted, they sucked with Bulba. for whatever reason he isn't a winner. That cycle has repeated itself so many times now that it should be obvious even to the biggest Bulba fan.
Liquid did give him a chance, they picked him up, when no one thought they should..made him play plenty of different heroes. Nit picking drafts and assignments doesnt change that.

Although it's just a couple of games you can instantly see the effect in having a true playmaker on support, everyone was playing better.

Im sure some bulbaknight is just gonna dig up a bunch of reasons, why Bulba has been wronged here once again so whatever. Was nice to see Liquid ballin, GH guy seems to be legit and have nice instincts and mechanics.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 03 2016 22:57 GMT
#3025
Does anybody know how old gh god ist? Didnt find much info on him.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
November 03 2016 23:01 GMT
#3026
i wouldn't read too much into 2 wins over a team who has sick and exhausted players who partied too hard is all i'm gonna say.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-03 23:21:21
November 03 2016 23:16 GMT
#3027
On November 04 2016 08:01 Shaella wrote:
i wouldn't read too much into 2 wins over a team who has sick and exhausted players who partied too hard is all i'm gonna say.

Well whatever, this sounds like excuses. Liquid hasnt looked like this since bulba joined, thats a fact. And like i said, im not a bulba hater or something, but he just doesnt fit in most teams it seems. Whatever he is supposed to bring to the team doesnt work. I heard people say, bulba brings teams a stable early game. Liquid never had a worse early game then with bulba. He failed with 4 diffrent big teams he joined since last year. Its time to accept the fact, that bulba is not a winner, at least not as a player. He should just go coach, many teams would want him.
Asjo
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Denmark664 Posts
November 03 2016 23:19 GMT
#3028
On November 04 2016 07:57 hunter_x wrote:
Does anybody know how old gh god ist? Didnt find much info on him.


Yeah, that's a good question. None of the gaming sites have his age, and he hasn't even shown it on his Facebook profile. A mystery 8)
I am not sure what to say
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 04 2016 00:11 GMT
#3029

haha Miracle accepted his Faith xD
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Dysisa
Profile Joined July 2014
Sweden2376 Posts
November 04 2016 01:19 GMT
#3030
I'm sure that even when this new roster eventually drops games, people in here will still find a way to say Bulba is the cause of it.
fuck dota 2 | "i don't like ppd, and i really look forward to one day beating that motherfucker" -Swindlemelonzz, my personal hero
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 04 2016 03:49 GMT
#3031
Kuro is drafting heroes that his carry can't play, but I'm sure Bulba was the problem
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 04:09:19
November 04 2016 03:52 GMT
#3032
On November 04 2016 08:16 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 08:01 Shaella wrote:
i wouldn't read too much into 2 wins over a team who has sick and exhausted players who partied too hard is all i'm gonna say.

Liquid hasnt looked like this since bulba joined, thats a fact.


Liquid smashed VP in the first round of the playoffs of Boston quals in a convincing fashion and everyone was pleased here.

I didn't even see their games yesterday so I don't really have an opinion on how they looked but I don't think it's true that they haven't had a good looking series after Bulba joined.
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
November 04 2016 05:03 GMT
#3033
On November 04 2016 12:52 spudde123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 08:16 hunter_x wrote:
On November 04 2016 08:01 Shaella wrote:
i wouldn't read too much into 2 wins over a team who has sick and exhausted players who partied too hard is all i'm gonna say.

Liquid hasnt looked like this since bulba joined, thats a fact.


Liquid smashed VP in the first round of the playoffs of Boston quals in a convincing fashion and everyone was pleased here.

I didn't even see their games yesterday so I don't really have an opinion on how they looked but I don't think it's true that they haven't had a good looking series after Bulba joined.



Liquid were 8-12 at ti6 w/ 0 games versus EG/Wings, and went to the LB. The problems with this team anti-date bulba.

They have not looked great in any tournament since 6.88b came out July 12th.

Without Bulba, they have now lost to Kaipi and beat AF convincingly. We shall see.
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
TurboNash
Profile Joined August 2015
36 Posts
November 04 2016 06:39 GMT
#3034
There's rumor that they gonna shuffle roster now that they don't have to abide the shuffle rules for this season Major.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 04 2016 07:13 GMT
#3035
On November 04 2016 15:39 TurboNash wrote:
There's rumor that they gonna shuffle roster now that they don't have to abide the shuffle rules for this season Major.

Thats not a rumour, thats more or less confirmed. Yesterday kuro said in the dreamleague interview, that he cant talk about anything yet. Also bulba removed his liquid tag at twitter.
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
November 04 2016 08:00 GMT
#3036
GH rubick made me very happy!
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 04 2016 10:35 GMT
#3037
On November 04 2016 14:03 common_cider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2016 12:52 spudde123 wrote:
On November 04 2016 08:16 hunter_x wrote:
On November 04 2016 08:01 Shaella wrote:
i wouldn't read too much into 2 wins over a team who has sick and exhausted players who partied too hard is all i'm gonna say.

Liquid hasnt looked like this since bulba joined, thats a fact.


Liquid smashed VP in the first round of the playoffs of Boston quals in a convincing fashion and everyone was pleased here.

I didn't even see their games yesterday so I don't really have an opinion on how they looked but I don't think it's true that they haven't had a good looking series after Bulba joined.



Liquid were 8-12 at ti6 w/ 0 games versus EG/Wings, and went to the LB. The problems with this team anti-date bulba.

They have not looked great in any tournament since 6.88b came out July 12th.

Without Bulba, they have now lost to Kaipi and beat AF convincingly. We shall see.

There were different issues back then, notably them being one dimensional and relying on the often triple strength core they got figured out basically.

Kuro obviously went out of his way to not let that happen again, there were so many drafts and styles. And I hope he continues with that trend of Wings Dota.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 04 2016 10:38 GMT
#3038
On November 04 2016 12:49 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Kuro is drafting heroes that his carry can't play, but I'm sure Bulba was the problem

Again this is why they bombed after successfull run - other teams figured them out, I for one am glad they push outside of their comfort zone, if we go down then be it like this, nothing was so frustrating as to see last Alliance go down the drain on their comfort heroes
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
November 04 2016 17:28 GMT
#3039
Alright boys time to destroy imperial today
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 04 2016 18:41 GMT
#3040
I'm cautiously optimistic
Prev 1 150 151 152 153 154 361 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#78
WardiTV1037
Rex122
IntoTheiNu 12
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Rex 114
RushiSC 43
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 8813
Sea 2693
Soma 1107
Mini 663
Light 544
ZerO 543
EffOrt 502
Stork 424
Snow 415
Rush 256
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 240
hero 201
Killer 154
sorry 90
Mind 81
PianO 62
Sea.KH 58
Aegong 55
NotJumperer 44
sSak 43
Barracks 40
[sc1f]eonzerg 36
Shinee 33
GoRush 18
IntoTheRainbow 18
scan(afreeca) 17
soO 12
SilentControl 10
Noble 9
Terrorterran 7
ivOry 6
Britney 1
Dota 2
qojqva3359
League of Legends
JimRising 297
Counter-Strike
fl0m736
markeloff163
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King83
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes317
Other Games
singsing2650
B2W.Neo1121
hiko753
Lowko391
Hui .231
Pyrionflax209
Fuzer 196
XaKoH 143
QueenE68
ArmadaUGS47
ZerO(Twitch)17
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream582
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift2495
• Jankos1651
• TFBlade457
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
2h 11m
WardiTV Team League
21h 11m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 9h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 20h
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maru vs Zoun
Cure vs ByuN
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
BSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-15
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.