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Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 13:53:04
November 05 2016 11:08 GMT
#3061
On November 05 2016 17:26 5-s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 12:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On November 05 2016 12:12 hakka wrote:
| if one accepted the fact that Bulba was picked up by pros for a legitimate reason, then he/she should also accept the fact the Bulba was removed from teams by pros for legit reasons as well.

If one assums that Bulba was the problem with the team, it would also be assumed that the team would perform better after removing him.

I follow people's logic so far, but this is faulty. This is basically saying that all roster changes lead for the better (because there's a "legitimate" reason for making them.) That's demonstrably false. Lots of teams have gone from bad to worse after making changes.

Furthermore, it assumes that roster changes lead to immediately better performance if they are going to lead to better performance at all, which seems very unlikely to be necessarily true.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 05 2016 14:16 GMT
#3062
I think it's all but confirmed. Bulba left liquid because they were dragging him down.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
TriCkster135
Profile Joined June 2016
Germany80 Posts
November 05 2016 14:23 GMT
#3063
I still think liquid should pick stronger offlane heros. Dark seer, Tide, maybe batrider. MC seems kind of lost, which is partly because of the heros he has to play.

Give him a strong solo laner and help miracle mid instead.
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
November 05 2016 14:27 GMT
#3064
I really am unsure about MC right now. He ALWAYS seems to fall behind in farm. Even after having a great lane. Yes he obviously has to step down for Miracle and Matu but it still is very surprising that he often times gets surpassed by the enemy's and the own 4...
HappyTuna
Profile Joined November 2016
United Kingdom117 Posts
November 05 2016 14:37 GMT
#3065
Damn it Bulba!
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 05 2016 14:48 GMT
#3066
Man ad finem denying us another tournament? I begin to hate those greeks
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 14:50:53
November 05 2016 14:50 GMT
#3067
What has ad finem to do with this? Liquid are denying themselves by playing like shit.
HappyTuna
Profile Joined November 2016
United Kingdom117 Posts
November 05 2016 14:51 GMT
#3068
The Escape-Liquid series should be fun, both teams are playing awfully and on the verge of disbanding.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 05 2016 14:53 GMT
#3069
On November 05 2016 23:50 Furikawari wrote:
What has ad finem to do with this? Liquid are denying themselves by playing like shit.

Dont take everyone serious dude, of course i know that.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
November 05 2016 15:12 GMT
#3070
Annnnnd another tournament denied. Sad times
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 15:24:07
November 05 2016 15:12 GMT
#3071
Just the Bulba aftershock guys

Really hope that if we make further roster changes MC gets cut. I think that if MC wasn't Kuro's "project" he would've been replaced prior to Bulba. This guy just always seems so lost and fails to deliver when the hero he plays requires delicacy. The only games he has impact is when he plays strongarm heroes like Axe and Timber on a free lane where he can just yolo or heroes like Void where he can hit huge ults and doesn't need to contribute anything else. Feels like he hasn't evolved from just being a good pub player in the last year.
I think esports is pretty nice.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
November 05 2016 15:15 GMT
#3072
When was the last time we won with Omni in our team?
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 15:17:38
November 05 2016 15:15 GMT
#3073
they lose the vision game every time against AF (and to other teams tbh too) and they know that they like to pick the bounty and if banned the riki...


but nvm that, they fucking lost game 2 at the enemy tier 2 and I dare say they suck at positioning big time
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
November 05 2016 15:47 GMT
#3074
TL should sue Bulba.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 05 2016 17:49 GMT
#3075
We need to keep GH and kick the other guys
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 05 2016 17:57 GMT
#3076
On November 06 2016 00:15 NInoff wrote:
When was the last time we won with Omni in our team?

Last time we played it no? :D
We raped VP and their clock pick
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 05 2016 18:02 GMT
#3077
On November 06 2016 02:57 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 00:15 NInoff wrote:
When was the last time we won with Omni in our team?

Last time we played it no? :D
We raped VP and their clock pick


Last time was the offlane Omni against Imperial iirc but yeah
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
November 05 2016 18:02 GMT
#3078
On November 06 2016 00:47 Racket wrote:
TL should sue Bulba.

Honestly, if "pro dota player" was a real job and TL Dota 2 a real employer than Bulba should probably sue TL for wrongful termination.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 05 2016 18:23 GMT
#3079
MC is the same type of offlaner as Universe. His teammates need to play around his playstyle and compensate for his greed.

Personally, I don't have a high opinion for these type of players. It is like playing the traditional carry but in the offlane, waiting for teammates to create space for you. It doesn't really take much skill or game sense to play like that. Universe is just very lucky to have perfect teammates around him.

Yea to say it nicely, it is indeed a team chemistry problem.

Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 05 2016 18:38 GMT
#3080
we won boys
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