• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:44
CEST 00:44
KST 07:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview Updates to The Core/Core Lite for v5.0.16? RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 2026 Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested
Tourneys
GSL CK #4 20-21th June Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Where is EffOrt? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason ZeroSpace Megathread Total War: Warhammer 40K Path of Exile
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9787 users

Team Liquid Discussion - Page 155

Forum Index > Dota 2 Player & Team Discussion
Post a Reply
Prev 1 153 154 155 156 157 361 Next
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
November 05 2016 18:41 GMT
#3081
That was amazing haha. Elimination Mode Liquid vs Escape game 1. Go watch it.
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
November 05 2016 19:00 GMT
#3082
On November 06 2016 03:41 Forgottenfrog wrote:
That was amazing haha. Elimination Mode Liquid vs Escape game 1. Go watch it.

If you're referring to the stupidest game of 2016, that's game 2.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
November 05 2016 19:27 GMT
#3083
On November 06 2016 04:00 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 03:41 Forgottenfrog wrote:
That was amazing haha. Elimination Mode Liquid vs Escape game 1. Go watch it.

If you're referring to the stupidest game of 2016, that's game 2.

It was entertaining, but Liquid tried pretty hard to throw there.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Flacracker
Profile Joined February 2014
1116 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 20:34:53
November 05 2016 20:31 GMT
#3084
So is Bulba back on TL? What is going on? I haven't been following too well.

Edit: Nevermind. Joindota just listed him as playing
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
November 05 2016 20:35 GMT
#3085
heen is playing in game 2 right now. not sure who was that ragnar dude on game 1
GGman
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic143 Posts
November 06 2016 09:09 GMT
#3086
Well, is it just me, or are we currently out of every LAN except for Dreamleague, where we might get tru depending on other teams games (and possible tiebreakers)?
“Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
November 06 2016 09:44 GMT
#3087
Yep we are out of every lan. And we are in the Dreamleage, because instead of getting 2:0 by NP, we got a free win. Otherwise we were going to be 6:8 and gg.
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
November 06 2016 10:41 GMT
#3088
On November 06 2016 18:44 NInoff wrote:
Yep we are out of every lan. And we are in the Dreamleage, because instead of getting 2:0 by NP, we got a free win. Otherwise we were going to be 6:8 and gg.


wonder how NP would 2:0 us when we played them already before them dropping out 1:1...
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
November 06 2016 10:43 GMT
#3089
On November 06 2016 18:44 NInoff wrote:
Yep we are out of every lan. And we are in the Dreamleage, because instead of getting 2:0 by NP, we got a free win. Otherwise we were going to be 6:8 and gg.

Liquid went 1-1 against NP though, not 0-2. And so did Vega and Imperial, the 2 other teams of the potential tiebreaker. So NP's forfeit doesn't really have that much of an impact on the final results.
GGman
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic143 Posts
November 06 2016 11:32 GMT
#3090
Well, Dreamleague is the LAN to win then!
“Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 06 2016 12:32 GMT
#3091
We're not in Dreamleague yet, might still have to do playoffs vs Vega
TriCkster135
Profile Joined June 2016
Germany80 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-06 16:37:30
November 06 2016 12:41 GMT
#3092
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And then there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
November 06 2016 16:12 GMT
#3093
On November 06 2016 21:41 TriCkster135 wrote:
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And than there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.


IMO it's way too early in that dota year to call any of these teams T1/T2.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
November 06 2016 19:43 GMT
#3094
On November 06 2016 21:41 TriCkster135 wrote:
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And then there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.

I'd say EG and OG are on another level in the West at least for now. The rest keep trading wins, AF certainly haven't proven themselves yet. Winning the qualifiers to the actual tournament doesn't make you a top contender there yet.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
TriCkster135
Profile Joined June 2016
Germany80 Posts
November 06 2016 20:55 GMT
#3095
I didn't say that ad finem is a top contender in TI. Just that OG, VP and AdFinem are the strongest teamy in Europe (at least for now).
That OG and EG are the best Western teams probably true.
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 00:06:52
November 06 2016 21:40 GMT
#3096
On November 07 2016 05:55 TriCkster135 wrote:
I didn't say that ad finem is a top contender in TI. Just that OG, VP and AdFinem are the strongest teamy in Europe (at least for now).
That OG and EG are the best Western teams probably true.


On November 07 2016 04:43 5-s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 21:41 TriCkster135 wrote:
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And then there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.

I'd say EG and OG are on another level in the West at least for now. The rest keep trading wins, AF certainly haven't proven themselves yet. Winning the qualifiers to the actual tournament doesn't make you a top contender there yet.



I just can't understand how you can confortably call EG and OG the best teams in the west when both teams barely played any games. I mean, lets look at OG results:

marstv -> 1 position above secret, who couldn't even qualify to the major

faceit invitational -> lose to empire

esl -> win against prodota (not even AM qualifiers playoffs) and F5 (worst team in the EU qualifiers), lose to VP (good team)

elimination mode -> win against kaipi (after the shuffle) and escape (won 2 of their last 20 maps played)

EG played even less games.

They might be the best teams in west, but you just CAN'T say that right now.
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 00:07:04
November 07 2016 00:06 GMT
#3097
wanted to edit and quoted, sorry
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
November 07 2016 08:42 GMT
#3098
On November 07 2016 04:43 5-s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 21:41 TriCkster135 wrote:
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And then there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.

I'd say EG and OG are on another level in the West at least for now. The rest keep trading wins, AF certainly haven't proven themselves yet. Winning the qualifiers to the actual tournament doesn't make you a top contender there yet.


OG looks as weak as liquid does. I dont see a difference, they just got more direct invites and had easier teams to play against. They still lose against the same stacks liquid does.

EG looks strong, Newbee looks strong, Faceless, AF and VP.
I have no picture about DC yet.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
November 07 2016 10:17 GMT
#3099
On November 07 2016 17:42 Anamorph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 04:43 5-s wrote:
On November 06 2016 21:41 TriCkster135 wrote:
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And then there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.

I'd say EG and OG are on another level in the West at least for now. The rest keep trading wins, AF certainly haven't proven themselves yet. Winning the qualifiers to the actual tournament doesn't make you a top contender there yet.


OG looks as weak as liquid does. I dont see a difference, they just got more direct invites and had easier teams to play against. They still lose against the same stacks liquid does.

EG looks strong, Newbee looks strong, Faceless, AF and VP.
I have no picture about DC yet.

OG had some mixed results this weekend (after I posted), but let's not forget that liquid recently lost to Kaipi in a best of 3, a squad which has as many achievements as a local community college dota club, and has never qualified for a major. You don't expect even bad professional sports clubs to lose to amateurs, and you don't expect a premier team like liquid to lose to nobodies, yet right now they do.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 07 2016 10:43 GMT
#3100
And let's not forget it was in a fun elimination tourney nobody takes seriously
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Prev 1 153 154 155 156 157 361 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 72
CosmosSc2 38
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 506
Sea 389
Dota 2
monkeys_forever375
canceldota85
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox453
AZ_Axe64
Other Games
Grubby3934
shahzam628
FrodaN356
C9.Mang0344
mouzStarbuck194
ROOTCatZ140
ViBE88
Trikslyr34
PPMD13
OptimusSC26
minikerr1
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream3362
Other Games
BasetradeTV254
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 83
• musti20045 40
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 28
• FirePhoenix4
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21008
Other Games
• imaqtpie982
• Shiphtur296
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 16m
Replay Cast
10h 16m
The PondCast
1d 11h
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
3 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-15
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.