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Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
November 05 2016 18:41 GMT
#3081
That was amazing haha. Elimination Mode Liquid vs Escape game 1. Go watch it.
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
November 05 2016 19:00 GMT
#3082
On November 06 2016 03:41 Forgottenfrog wrote:
That was amazing haha. Elimination Mode Liquid vs Escape game 1. Go watch it.

If you're referring to the stupidest game of 2016, that's game 2.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
November 05 2016 19:27 GMT
#3083
On November 06 2016 04:00 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 03:41 Forgottenfrog wrote:
That was amazing haha. Elimination Mode Liquid vs Escape game 1. Go watch it.

If you're referring to the stupidest game of 2016, that's game 2.

It was entertaining, but Liquid tried pretty hard to throw there.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Flacracker
Profile Joined February 2014
1116 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 20:34:53
November 05 2016 20:31 GMT
#3084
So is Bulba back on TL? What is going on? I haven't been following too well.

Edit: Nevermind. Joindota just listed him as playing
Papercappu
Profile Joined July 2015
Canada2210 Posts
November 05 2016 20:35 GMT
#3085
heen is playing in game 2 right now. not sure who was that ragnar dude on game 1
GGman
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic143 Posts
November 06 2016 09:09 GMT
#3086
Well, is it just me, or are we currently out of every LAN except for Dreamleague, where we might get tru depending on other teams games (and possible tiebreakers)?
“Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
November 06 2016 09:44 GMT
#3087
Yep we are out of every lan. And we are in the Dreamleage, because instead of getting 2:0 by NP, we got a free win. Otherwise we were going to be 6:8 and gg.
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
November 06 2016 10:41 GMT
#3088
On November 06 2016 18:44 NInoff wrote:
Yep we are out of every lan. And we are in the Dreamleage, because instead of getting 2:0 by NP, we got a free win. Otherwise we were going to be 6:8 and gg.


wonder how NP would 2:0 us when we played them already before them dropping out 1:1...
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
November 06 2016 10:43 GMT
#3089
On November 06 2016 18:44 NInoff wrote:
Yep we are out of every lan. And we are in the Dreamleage, because instead of getting 2:0 by NP, we got a free win. Otherwise we were going to be 6:8 and gg.

Liquid went 1-1 against NP though, not 0-2. And so did Vega and Imperial, the 2 other teams of the potential tiebreaker. So NP's forfeit doesn't really have that much of an impact on the final results.
GGman
Profile Joined July 2010
Czech Republic143 Posts
November 06 2016 11:32 GMT
#3090
Well, Dreamleague is the LAN to win then!
“Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 06 2016 12:32 GMT
#3091
We're not in Dreamleague yet, might still have to do playoffs vs Vega
TriCkster135
Profile Joined June 2016
Germany80 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-06 16:37:30
November 06 2016 12:41 GMT
#3092
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And then there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
November 06 2016 16:12 GMT
#3093
On November 06 2016 21:41 TriCkster135 wrote:
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And than there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.


IMO it's way too early in that dota year to call any of these teams T1/T2.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
November 06 2016 19:43 GMT
#3094
On November 06 2016 21:41 TriCkster135 wrote:
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And then there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.

I'd say EG and OG are on another level in the West at least for now. The rest keep trading wins, AF certainly haven't proven themselves yet. Winning the qualifiers to the actual tournament doesn't make you a top contender there yet.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
TriCkster135
Profile Joined June 2016
Germany80 Posts
November 06 2016 20:55 GMT
#3095
I didn't say that ad finem is a top contender in TI. Just that OG, VP and AdFinem are the strongest teamy in Europe (at least for now).
That OG and EG are the best Western teams probably true.
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 00:06:52
November 06 2016 21:40 GMT
#3096
On November 07 2016 05:55 TriCkster135 wrote:
I didn't say that ad finem is a top contender in TI. Just that OG, VP and AdFinem are the strongest teamy in Europe (at least for now).
That OG and EG are the best Western teams probably true.


On November 07 2016 04:43 5-s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 21:41 TriCkster135 wrote:
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And then there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.

I'd say EG and OG are on another level in the West at least for now. The rest keep trading wins, AF certainly haven't proven themselves yet. Winning the qualifiers to the actual tournament doesn't make you a top contender there yet.



I just can't understand how you can confortably call EG and OG the best teams in the west when both teams barely played any games. I mean, lets look at OG results:

marstv -> 1 position above secret, who couldn't even qualify to the major

faceit invitational -> lose to empire

esl -> win against prodota (not even AM qualifiers playoffs) and F5 (worst team in the EU qualifiers), lose to VP (good team)

elimination mode -> win against kaipi (after the shuffle) and escape (won 2 of their last 20 maps played)

EG played even less games.

They might be the best teams in west, but you just CAN'T say that right now.
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 00:07:04
November 07 2016 00:06 GMT
#3097
wanted to edit and quoted, sorry
Anamorph
Profile Joined September 2015
236 Posts
November 07 2016 08:42 GMT
#3098
On November 07 2016 04:43 5-s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2016 21:41 TriCkster135 wrote:
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And then there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.

I'd say EG and OG are on another level in the West at least for now. The rest keep trading wins, AF certainly haven't proven themselves yet. Winning the qualifiers to the actual tournament doesn't make you a top contender there yet.


OG looks as weak as liquid does. I dont see a difference, they just got more direct invites and had easier teams to play against. They still lose against the same stacks liquid does.

EG looks strong, Newbee looks strong, Faceless, AF and VP.
I have no picture about DC yet.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
November 07 2016 10:17 GMT
#3099
On November 07 2016 17:42 Anamorph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2016 04:43 5-s wrote:
On November 06 2016 21:41 TriCkster135 wrote:
Liquid just isn't an T1 EU team anymore.
There are OG, VP and Adfinem.
And then there are a lot of T2 teams like Secret, Liquid, Vega, Escape that are on the same level. And with most tournaments only having one or two spots for EU it is hard to qualify.

I'd say EG and OG are on another level in the West at least for now. The rest keep trading wins, AF certainly haven't proven themselves yet. Winning the qualifiers to the actual tournament doesn't make you a top contender there yet.


OG looks as weak as liquid does. I dont see a difference, they just got more direct invites and had easier teams to play against. They still lose against the same stacks liquid does.

EG looks strong, Newbee looks strong, Faceless, AF and VP.
I have no picture about DC yet.

OG had some mixed results this weekend (after I posted), but let's not forget that liquid recently lost to Kaipi in a best of 3, a squad which has as many achievements as a local community college dota club, and has never qualified for a major. You don't expect even bad professional sports clubs to lose to amateurs, and you don't expect a premier team like liquid to lose to nobodies, yet right now they do.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
November 07 2016 10:43 GMT
#3100
And let's not forget it was in a fun elimination tourney nobody takes seriously
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
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