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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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Gear 3rd
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On November 04 2016 06:43 Sn0_Man wrote: thats the reason they gave Northern Arena yes Yea recalled out of my head was the wrong tournament :/ | ||
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Gear 3rd
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
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hunter_x
Germany2762 Posts
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Kuro finally stopped the Oracle/Ogre Magi obsession And instead of trying to protect the cores defensively they just wreak havoc all over the map and in effect protect them more than the defensive supports ever did. Like this game - AF focus so much on shutting down Miracle, Liquid let him die instead murder the other two lanes in the meantime where before Bulba would be there babysitting him letting the other team's cores easy time in lane. You'd never see Miracle getting SUUUUPER LOOONG initiation by OD mid, 3 heroes obviously closing in on him there was like 15seconds left to TP for Liquid's supports. They left him to die and instead kill Bat, get tower, matumba keeps pressuring PA and Miracle comes back later anyways with the space created | ||
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Nikto
Slovakia410 Posts
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Anamorph
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If they are able to perform well now, I really would love to see the explanations of the bulba crowd. For sure in the end its kuros new drafting - : P | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On November 04 2016 07:20 Nikto wrote: must play more than a rubick... until then, well nice games, but nothing more it's not about how one player plays, it's about how the team plays these players can play pretty much any hero anyway On November 04 2016 07:23 Anamorph wrote: For sure in the end its kuros new drafting - : P We don't know how much Bulba and his preferences affected the drafting I'm definitely a little suspicious of Kuro still though, I think he has a bit of an aversion to the 5 role even though he should probably have been the 5 pos player since the start. I just hope GH doesn't end up being drafted Dazzles and Warlocks like Jerax was.  | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On November 04 2016 07:20 Nikto wrote: must play more than a rubick... until then, well nice games, but nothing more IO, Lina, SK, Shaker, Lion Bane, Nyx all around 56-60+ winrate in pubs. So yeah not sure why Kuro didn't think of this earlier, Bulba is an offlane player for gods sake, his Nyx, Rubick were very good but he'd literally never draft aggressive duo like WD+Rubick or Bounty+Rubick now. With GH's primary hero pool that won't be an issue. Only defensive hero he plays a lot is Io | ||
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Asjo
Denmark664 Posts
On November 04 2016 07:20 LemOn wrote: Yeah okay Kuro finally stopped the Oracle/Ogre Magi obsession And instead of trying to protect the cores defensively they just wreak havoc all over the map and in effect protect them more than the defensive supports ever did. Like this game - AF focus so much on shutting down Miracle, Liquid let him die instead murder the other two lanes in the meantime where before Bulba would be there babysitting him letting the other team's cores easy time in lane. You'd never see Miracle getting SUUUUPER LOOONG initiation by OD mid, 3 heroes obviously closing in on him there was like 15seconds left to TP for Liquid's supports. They left him to die and instead kill Bat, get tower, matumba keeps pressuring PA and Miracle comes back later anyways with the space created I think it goes beyond just going offensive. It's about positioning and coordination. So many times, you would see GH draw attention to himself to get a good fighting position for his team. Other times he would scout out the enemies before they made their move and stop them in their tracks with a good lift (for instance, stopping batrider from countering void, or preventing OD from getting in position to right-click). By putting himself into the fray, he made it possible for KuroKy to take part in the fights very aggressively and do a decent amount of damage, without feeding a lot. Of course, the astral helped a lot with that  | ||
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Nikto
Slovakia410 Posts
On November 04 2016 07:24 Talin wrote: it's not about how one player plays, it's about how the team plays these players can play pretty much any hero anyway they NEED to prove it first, since they clearly can't based on the interview, yea... | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Also he's glad he has a position4 specialist so he can focus on playing 5 and leading the team (again, never even gave Bulba a chance with the Ogre/Oracle picks for him constantly. But with GH he doesn't have to - he only plays 4 heroes) | ||
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
On November 04 2016 07:30 LemOn wrote: Kuro spoken, says he doesn't want to go on carry but Matumba just sucked on drow, luna in scrims and wants to avoid it from now on. Also he's glad he has a position4 specialist so he can focus on playing 5 and leading the team (again, never even gave Bulba a chance with the Ogre/Oracle picks for him constantly. But with GH he doesn't have to - he only plays 4 heroes) literally bulba the scapegoat amazing. | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On November 04 2016 07:26 LemOn wrote: IO, Lina, SK, Shaker, Lion Bane, Nyx all around 56-60+ winrate in pubs. So yeah not sure why Kuro didn't think of this earlier, Bulba is an offlane player for gods sake, his Nyx, Rubick were very good but he'd literally never draft aggressive duo like WD+Rubick or Bounty+Rubick now. With GH's primary hero pool that won't be an issue. Only defensive hero he plays a lot is Io They probably tried in scrims and did not repeat in official matches for a reason. | ||
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
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Oukka
Finland1683 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Well the possibility is that it didn't work in scrims, effectively limiting their drafting is reasonable actually As scrims were the same reason why they didnt play Matu drow/luna which was also baffling to us | ||
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