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Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
March 07 2015 03:52 GMT
#41
People are so sensitive these days, can't even call a team bad anymore. I find it especially amusing coming from brazilians, as from my experience with brazilian in-house leagues I assumed calling people bad, belittling and flaming was pretty much the norm. I guess it hurts more when it's accurate.
ToastedBagel
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada91 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 06:35:35
March 07 2015 05:07 GMT
#42
Checked his twitter but didnt see anything. What did he say specifically? Just that Not Today are bad? ( they played them recently i think).

nvm found, i dont normally go on reddit so i didnt think to look there right away.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
March 07 2015 07:15 GMT
#43
this brings me back to the good ole days of idra
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 07 2015 07:20 GMT
#44
On March 07 2015 07:24 Jinxed wrote:\
As it is though everyone but secret (mb C9 on good days) is a joke to them and they barely have to work to stay on top of NA let alone the west.

you've got the construction backwards, it should be "on top of the west let alone NA"

you let alone the one that's more obvious / granted e.g., "We have no room for another house guest, let alone an entire family."
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gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
March 07 2015 12:44 GMT
#45
this guy is a fucking legend and should be respected as one of the greatest leaders in esports since carn and markeloff

anybody crying about his jokes and troll racist comments is wasting their time. nobody cares anymore, it's 2015
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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 07 2015 13:13 GMT
#46
respected? say that kind of shit in another other professional environment and i bet "respect" is the last thing he'll be getting
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
shad2810
Profile Joined August 2013
Malaysia2682 Posts
March 07 2015 14:11 GMT
#47
On March 07 2015 21:44 gulati wrote:
this guy is a fucking legend and should be respected as one of the greatest leaders in esports since carn and markeloff

anybody crying about his jokes and troll racist comments is wasting their time. nobody cares anymore, it's 2015


Say that in football, and you see people throwing stuff at him.
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OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
March 07 2015 15:27 GMT
#48
I don't think he said anything even close to any line, he certainly didn't cross one. Apparently people are under the impression that players don't talk the absolute MADDEST of shit during actual sports games. Say the most fucked up, offensive, over the line, crazy things that make the most "BM" of esports personalities look like a saint. You never hear about it because the players don't talk about it. Telling someone their team is garbage doesn't even register on the scale, no one should give any of this a second thought.
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Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1966 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 15:37:59
March 07 2015 15:36 GMT
#49
I think the thing that bothers me is he started saying this stuff while the two teams and the admin were trying to figure out a solution to the server issue. Yes, there is shit talking in sports but when the ref is trying to explain a call to the captains they're not going to be shit talking each other, though they might other reasonable objections. Also, esports is not sports.

PPD on the other hand offers nothing constructive to resolving the issue, which frankly is an embarrassment, especially because he is their captain.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 15:51:00
March 07 2015 15:49 GMT
#50
On March 07 2015 22:13 Doraemon wrote:
respected? say that kind of shit in another other professional environment and i bet "respect" is the last thing he'll be getting


This is actually the most incorrect thing I see about this entire thing. Do you really think in american football, football, basketball, rugby, hockey etc players aren't constantly talking mad shit to each other's faces to get reactions? Come on man. If anything esports is legitimizing itself by not being so PC that it removes human elements from it. Athletes don't complain, fans love the "behind the scenes" drama of hearing about it between athletes, and athletes are adult enough to brush it off.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 16:12:49
March 07 2015 16:11 GMT
#51
On March 07 2015 22:13 Doraemon wrote:
respected? say that kind of shit in another other professional environment and i bet "respect" is the last thing he'll be getting

In a professional competitive environment what he said is incredibly tame compared to usual shit talk. People are such babies.
cheese sandwich
Profile Joined July 2014
Russian Federation194 Posts
March 07 2015 19:42 GMT
#52
All the Brazilian fans or redditors crying about what he said need to get off their social justice politically correct train. Pain is the only Brazilian team in every NA qualifier, why do they feel the need to get the rules give them a favorable chance over every other team that pings to US east better. Peruvian teams and NA teams use US east, only Pain uses Brazil server, seems stupid to give ONE TEAM server advantage over every other. Same thing in Europe with EU west always used since every team gets a favorable ping towards it and the majority of teams are in Europe.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
March 07 2015 23:45 GMT
#53
Lets be real, far worse things than this have been said in lobbies, but Pain decided to try to whip up a shit storm in their favor. It doesn't make what ppd said right, but pretending its something rare and out side of the norm just is bring a sore loser.
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erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
March 08 2015 00:34 GMT
#54
I just hate when /r/dota2 looks like the front page of a cheap tabloid magazine. PPD can be a jerk, who gives a fuck? We already knew that. He's here to play Dota and I'm here to watch. I have no interest in digging behind the scenes to get these personal looks at pro players just so I can compare them with my own arbitrary sense of how someone should behave.

Most of the people complaining likely turn up their noses at shit like Keeping up with the Kardashians, but eat this dota drama up. I don't know, it just seems petty to me.
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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
March 08 2015 02:24 GMT
#55
PPD is right about one thing though: every tier 2 and lower team should play with a ping dissadvantage to EG because EG is the better team so they deserve more the win anyway.

Heck, EG is the best team in the world so actually every team should play with a ping dissadvantage to them.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-09 12:51:39
March 09 2015 12:47 GMT
#56
On March 08 2015 11:24 Sbrubbles wrote:
PPD is right about one thing though: every tier 2 and lower team should play with a ping dissadvantage to EG because EG is the better team so they deserve more the win anyway.

Heck, EG is the best team in the world so actually every team should play with a ping dissadvantage to them.

Pfffft. In fact there is a thing in some sports where matches are played twice, once on each stadium, to "equilibrate" locally advantage.

------

Anyway, the real problem with PPD is not his attitude/personality but instead how people get excited over his salt+flame+disrespect, which at the same time encourages him.
Same with Sumail, he can be a beast but that doesn't mean he has to be a shitty person, which later on will be someone kids will look up to and will always try to copy or at least justify such hateful behavior.

In football, for instance, you have people like Cristiano Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic who are really good players, but instead of being a good example they prefer to be as crappy as possible. Of course, they are not forced and shouldn't be, it is just a personal choice.

If every time they do something like that, people reprove them, they may stop.

If this would lead to a fist fight on the scene, I am sure that people will just cheer, that's how dumb people are.

Note: What everyone backing up / not minding this behavior is possibly missing or avoiding is how that the same thing hits them when they play. Usually people playing on the same level doesn't see things in the same way.
Even when Barcelona plays against a team from a lower league, the lower team's players are usually happy to play against them even if the get rekt, could be because of admiration or whatever you wanna call it. And there were times when Barcelona lost against way worse teams, so you never know.

Even if Pain sucks, they may dream to win against EG and could be happy to play against them, and that crap PPD gave them: "what’s the point, you’re not qualifying for this event so just get this shit over with" is a direct insult+disrespect, in fact I would punch him in the face if I could, because as much as many don't care I do.

Taking into account that previous statement from PPD and combining it with the twitter about direct invites, I feel like he doesn't want to play any qualifier at all, with that kind of thinking just give them an invite direct to TI5 finals and "get that shit over with".

Lastly, guys how do you feel at work when your boss or anyone with a better position than yours treat you like shit? Is he really better in a way that he can just treat you that way? Do you accept it like it is the way it should be?

Come on, it is called human interaction, in real life, when you meet someone like PPD and experience his behavior first hand, it is a common reaction to hit him hard, just to try and put some sense into him.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
March 09 2015 12:52 GMT
#57
I dont think you quite understand that these players are entertainers first and human beings second. That is why this works.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 09 2015 12:56 GMT
#58
On March 09 2015 21:52 Spicy_Curry wrote:
I dont think you quite understand that these players are entertainers first and human beings second. That is why this works.

A dark, but honest way to look at it. What PPD said was rude, but nothing that we wouldn't see before a hyped boxing match. People calling for super polite, SC2 level dota are asking for boring dota. I enjoy me a little flame.
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Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
March 09 2015 13:44 GMT
#59
Don't worry guys I just booked my flight to MLG Columbus LAN finals so I will be confronting PPD about his unsportsmanlike behavior! I will get to the bottom of this and make sure Peter knows his actions are wrong and hurtful to others!
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
March 09 2015 13:51 GMT
#60
On March 09 2015 22:44 Beirut wrote:
Don't worry guys I just booked my flight to MLG Columbus LAN finals so I will be confronting PPD about his unsportsmanlike behavior! I will get to the bottom of this and make sure Peter knows his actions are wrong and hurtful to others!


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