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TheSmokeyy90
Profile Joined February 2012
United States108 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-10 13:47:37
March 10 2015 13:47 GMT
#81
It's cool man. Trash talk to me is both private and public. I watch a lot of NFL Football and some NBA Basketball as well, and I know there is a ton of trash talked out on the field and court, a lot of that isn't meant for the public or general viewing audience, but is still trash talk.

I just think this whole particular thing is one giant non-issue that is being argued about for the sake of arguing lol
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 10 2015 18:14 GMT
#82
On March 10 2015 21:33 Racket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 21:02 Spicy_Curry wrote:
You are deluded if you think trash talk is only public. Do you think we even know 1% of the crap professional athletes spew at each other? These are players who spend every second of every waking hour thinking that they are the best in the world. The egos are massive at the competitive level because you simply cannot be the best if you think that you are not the best. Keyboard warriors probably dont want to hear it but the vast majority of the people complaining have not spent very much time watching sports to make an accurate comparison between the two. Unfortunately for you, we need these players because exciting games dont make sports popular, in fact most games are dreadfully boring, the storylines make the game and we should relish this.


I get you, my point is:
- Trash talk is public.
- Harassing/disrespecting people may be public and/or private.

While both categories are able to use the same words and expressions, one is made exclusively public for the sake of fame/rating/publicity/ego-centrism/etc, and the other is just one person being a dick to another whatever the reasons (ego-centrism for instance).

The public one is usually mutual and "accepted" or tolerated. On the other hand the private one is usually condemned because ethics and moral are in the way.

Trash talk isn't public. Hell the worst of it is never public because the shit athletes say on the field or court is stuff sponsors don't like to hear. Michael Jordan is probably the greatest trash talker of all time. He would mentally destroy people on the court. And we never hear what he actually said. Only players memories of it. None of it was public. But it was still trash talk.
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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
March 10 2015 18:42 GMT
#83
On March 10 2015 01:37 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2015 21:47 Racket wrote:
Come on, it is called human interaction, in real life, when you meet someone like PPD and experience his behavior first hand, it is a common reaction to hit him hard, just to try and put some sense into him.


I don't know where in the real world you live, but it must be very violent if getting punched is a common reaction to something like that.

From my experience, a common reaction would be casually trash talking back, or laughing it off if you have a more passive personality.


Most people who say "all trash talk gets you punched" gets most of their social interaction by watching movies or TV and has no idea how actual conflict is resolved between adults.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
March 10 2015 20:40 GMT
#84
On March 11 2015 03:14 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 21:33 Racket wrote:
On March 10 2015 21:02 Spicy_Curry wrote:
You are deluded if you think trash talk is only public. Do you think we even know 1% of the crap professional athletes spew at each other? These are players who spend every second of every waking hour thinking that they are the best in the world. The egos are massive at the competitive level because you simply cannot be the best if you think that you are not the best. Keyboard warriors probably dont want to hear it but the vast majority of the people complaining have not spent very much time watching sports to make an accurate comparison between the two. Unfortunately for you, we need these players because exciting games dont make sports popular, in fact most games are dreadfully boring, the storylines make the game and we should relish this.


I get you, my point is:
- Trash talk is public.
- Harassing/disrespecting people may be public and/or private.

While both categories are able to use the same words and expressions, one is made exclusively public for the sake of fame/rating/publicity/ego-centrism/etc, and the other is just one person being a dick to another whatever the reasons (ego-centrism for instance).

The public one is usually mutual and "accepted" or tolerated. On the other hand the private one is usually condemned because ethics and moral are in the way.

Trash talk isn't public. Hell the worst of it is never public because the shit athletes say on the field or court is stuff sponsors don't like to hear. Michael Jordan is probably the greatest trash talker of all time. He would mentally destroy people on the court. And we never hear what he actually said. Only players memories of it. None of it was public. But it was still trash talk.

On March 11 2015 03:42 lolnoty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2015 01:37 Talin wrote:
On March 09 2015 21:47 Racket wrote:
Come on, it is called human interaction, in real life, when you meet someone like PPD and experience his behavior first hand, it is a common reaction to hit him hard, just to try and put some sense into him.


I don't know where in the real world you live, but it must be very violent if getting punched is a common reaction to something like that.

From my experience, a common reaction would be casually trash talking back, or laughing it off if you have a more passive personality.


Most people who say "all trash talk gets you punched" gets most of their social interaction by watching movies or TV and has no idea how actual conflict is resolved between adults.


Nevermind x 2. I am done. Thanks for the conversation though.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
March 11 2015 05:05 GMT
#85
EG somehow finds a way to get the most talkative players on their teams
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
August 27 2015 19:42 GMT
#86
Been watching ppd's stream recently. I've noticed that he hates it, and I mean really hates it, when people are constantly talking over the mic. Even if they're explaining things game related. Seems he preferred communication via typing.

I can really see why he didn't want to play with Aui anymore, their styles were just too different. He'd probably hate playing with me lol.
Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 20:33:55
August 27 2015 20:33 GMT
#87
On August 28 2015 04:42 Supamang wrote:
Been watching ppd's stream recently. I've noticed that he hates it, and I mean really hates it, when people are constantly talking over the mic. Even if they're explaining things game related. Seems he preferred communication via typing.

I can really see why he didn't want to play with Aui anymore, their styles were just too different. He'd probably hate playing with me lol.


Probably just hates pub players pretending like they know what they should be doing lol. I don't think you should draw too many conclusions from his livestream pubs.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
August 27 2015 22:44 GMT
#88
On August 28 2015 05:33 Beirut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 04:42 Supamang wrote:
Been watching ppd's stream recently. I've noticed that he hates it, and I mean really hates it, when people are constantly talking over the mic. Even if they're explaining things game related. Seems he preferred communication via typing.

I can really see why he didn't want to play with Aui anymore, their styles were just too different. He'd probably hate playing with me lol.


Probably just hates pub players pretending like they know what they should be doing lol. I don't think you should draw too many conclusions from his livestream pubs.

That could be it. One of his games, there was an AM, even after realizing that it was ppd playing and after they'd already won, who was telling him to not leave the carry as a support. It was pretty ridiculous.

He still in general seemed annoyed at people using the mic every 5 seconds though.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
August 28 2015 11:47 GMT
#89
On August 28 2015 07:44 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 05:33 Beirut wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:42 Supamang wrote:
Been watching ppd's stream recently. I've noticed that he hates it, and I mean really hates it, when people are constantly talking over the mic. Even if they're explaining things game related. Seems he preferred communication via typing.

I can really see why he didn't want to play with Aui anymore, their styles were just too different. He'd probably hate playing with me lol.


Probably just hates pub players pretending like they know what they should be doing lol. I don't think you should draw too many conclusions from his livestream pubs.

That could be it. One of his games, there was an AM, even after realizing that it was ppd playing and after they'd already won, who was telling him to not leave the carry as a support. It was pretty ridiculous.

He still in general seemed annoyed at people using the mic every 5 seconds though.

I dont think it bothered him that much, if it actually did he would have just muted them...
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-28 13:03:04
August 28 2015 13:02 GMT
#90
On August 28 2015 20:47 Atoissen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 07:44 Supamang wrote:
On August 28 2015 05:33 Beirut wrote:
On August 28 2015 04:42 Supamang wrote:
Been watching ppd's stream recently. I've noticed that he hates it, and I mean really hates it, when people are constantly talking over the mic. Even if they're explaining things game related. Seems he preferred communication via typing.

I can really see why he didn't want to play with Aui anymore, their styles were just too different. He'd probably hate playing with me lol.


Probably just hates pub players pretending like they know what they should be doing lol. I don't think you should draw too many conclusions from his livestream pubs.

That could be it. One of his games, there was an AM, even after realizing that it was ppd playing and after they'd already won, who was telling him to not leave the carry as a support. It was pretty ridiculous.

He still in general seemed annoyed at people using the mic every 5 seconds though.

I dont think it bothered him that much, if it actually did he would have just muted them...

which he did.
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