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YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
December 15 2014 20:06 GMT
#721
...
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1754 Posts
December 15 2014 20:08 GMT
#722
Replacing one talented played doesn't suddenly make the team good... whodathunk.
AdministratorTeam Liquid VP of Esports
Hoenicker
Profile Joined February 2012
243 Posts
December 15 2014 20:20 GMT
#723
ಠ益ಠ༽୨ NOW WE RIOT୧༼ಠ益ಠ༽୨

User was warned for this post
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 15 2014 20:25 GMT
#724
I think Pajkatt quit. Unless they are actually super stupid there's no way they thought this was the roster change that would fix everything.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Drearcerberus
Profile Joined August 2014
United States21 Posts
December 15 2014 20:35 GMT
#725
It almost feels like they take turns throwing. They are almost always outdrafted. Bulba and EGM both have their games, but they feel few and far in between.I feel Bulba plays his heroes a bit better, but his ward sense and game sense of what a support should be doing are off (plus he played like ass at the Summit). EGM feeds too much and doesn't seem to have the impact a greedy support player should. Between the rest they all had games where they underperformed/fed, generally, on the heroes that could least afford it. Even with all of that, the biggest problem seems to be drafting/captaining. Empire outpicked them and then exploit their drafts so bad that it didn't matter that they were playing down people and with stand-ins. I don't know if there's a player available that can fill the needs this team has.
drusalnik
Profile Joined July 2014
Bulgaria133 Posts
December 15 2014 22:06 GMT
#726
The need this team has is to disband it is that simple.

I dunnot understand how can people support such clowny game-play and personalitys but each on its own.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
December 15 2014 22:33 GMT
#727
On December 16 2014 07:06 drusalnik wrote:
The need this team has is to disband it is that simple.

I dunnot understand how can people support such clowny game-play and personalitys but each on its own.


you clearly dont understand what it means to be a fan. its the same in every sport. you should support or cheer for the team you like, it has nothing to do with success...
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
December 15 2014 22:36 GMT
#728
On December 16 2014 07:06 drusalnik wrote:
The need this team has is to disband it is that simple.

I dunnot understand how can people support such clowny game-play and personalitys but each on its own.

You must be the biggest badwagoner ever

And im pretty sure you dont like sports or at least you dont put your heart in it
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
December 16 2014 00:59 GMT
#729
I'll say it

Singsing is overhyped and nowhere nearly as good as people think he is

don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 16 2014 01:08 GMT
#730
On December 16 2014 09:59 Shaella wrote:
I'll say it

Singsing is overhyped and nowhere nearly as good as people think he is


I love how people come out of the woodwork every couple of days to take this super-brave stance like they are the first. "Well if no one will say it. I will. I think SingSing is bad at dota! I said it. Finally, someone did."
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
drusalnik
Profile Joined July 2014
Bulgaria133 Posts
December 16 2014 01:46 GMT
#731
On December 16 2014 07:36 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:06 drusalnik wrote:
The need this team has is to disband it is that simple.

I dunnot understand how can people support such clowny game-play and personalitys but each on its own.

You must be the biggest badwagoner ever

And im pretty sure you dont like sports or at least you dont put your heart in it



Yeah cuz i don't like TT as they are at the moment i am a bandwagoner.

I like VG even before they were remade to what they are now.
I like DK well the team that was DK before they disbanded.

I do not like teams that cannot evolve just to spell it for you.
This team could of been very good but the players proved what i long tough they are nothing more then glorified wanna be pro player semi-core players.
They do not want to evolve that is why i do not like the team and the fact that they have the guy that constantly screams on hes stream "F*CK THEM IN THE P*SSY".

Maybe you lost some braincells along the road you call life but i sure haven't to cheer for people like those.
This game needs maturity something i am afraid it will never reach while people like Singsing/egm/Bulba are still considered top-tier caliber players and something to look up to.

Is that enough for you ? Or do you wan't me to go back to the discussion of how XBOCT needs to retire to make a way for new and upcoming promising talented players like Resolution and actually stop been a burden for Na'Vi?
Since i do believe our last conversation was around those lines.

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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 16 2014 03:27 GMT
#732
Aw, someone doesn't like Sing. Everyone pay attention to him.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
December 16 2014 03:53 GMT
#733
please do. I love attention.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Murkinlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States366 Posts
December 16 2014 04:29 GMT
#734
Why are people acting like a few games with a standin is what the team's goal was when replacing Pajkatt?
Ratchets, designer jackets
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 16 2014 05:47 GMT
#735
On December 16 2014 13:29 Murkinlol wrote:
Why are people acting like a few games with a standin is what the team's goal was when replacing Pajkatt?

More opportunities to flame Sing.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 16 2014 05:58 GMT
#736
Removing pj and putting sing mid is the first step. But the more important step is to get a real #5 and either put bulba in offlane or kick him. I think the latter is the better option because bulba isn't good enough and there is "you're so good ar1se".
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 16 2014 07:14 GMT
#737
On December 16 2014 13:29 Murkinlol wrote:
Why are people acting like a few games with a standin is what the team's goal was when replacing Pajkatt?

I think the reactions are more about getting curbstomped in the early game when Empire had a player dc'ed, and also had a stand-in.

I mean, there's bad, and then there's 5v4 and losing by a mile bad.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
December 16 2014 07:34 GMT
#738
Everyone knows they are underperforming, but I fail to see what yelling about it in here will do.
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
Hoenicker
Profile Joined February 2012
243 Posts
December 16 2014 10:17 GMT
#739
We all hope to be the ones that supply tinker with the exact comment that will turn around their game play. There. I said it. That's why we are all yelling in this thread.

I think they are lacking confidence above all else, they have no trust in their picks. I think sing is a player that performs really well when he is playing with someone who is naturally confident/big personality, like loda, I really think that was the reason he played so well in bts (anyone who says he played like shit during bts - go watch the replays).

The games they played against denial (day before the games vs empire) they drafted almost the same heroes (same cores) and totally destroyed them, so its weird why they sucked so much against empire. It could also have to do with empires pausing, etc which seemed to tilt them all a bit as well.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 10:53:12
December 16 2014 10:52 GMT
#740
On December 16 2014 10:46 drusalnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2014 07:36 Faruko wrote:
On December 16 2014 07:06 drusalnik wrote:
The need this team has is to disband it is that simple.

I dunnot understand how can people support such clowny game-play and personalitys but each on its own.

You must be the biggest badwagoner ever

And im pretty sure you dont like sports or at least you dont put your heart in it



Yeah cuz i don't like TT as they are at the moment i am a bandwagoner.

I like VG even before they were remade to what they are now.
I like DK well the team that was DK before they disbanded.

I do not like teams that cannot evolve just to spell it for you.
This team could of been very good but the players proved what i long tough they are nothing more then glorified wanna be pro player semi-core players.
They do not want to evolve that is why i do not like the team and the fact that they have the guy that constantly screams on hes stream "F*CK THEM IN THE P*SSY".

Maybe you lost some braincells along the road you call life but i sure haven't to cheer for people like those.
This game needs maturity something i am afraid it will never reach while people like Singsing/egm/Bulba are still considered top-tier caliber players and something to look up to.

Is that enough for you ? Or do you wan't me to go back to the discussion of how XBOCT needs to retire to make a way for new and upcoming promising talented players like Resolution and actually stop been a burden for Na'Vi?
Since i do believe our last conversation was around those lines.

User was warned for this post


Kinda funny but i agree with all your points, problem is that you didnt get what u was trying to say...

Which was, if you dont get why peoplw like/support tinker then you dont get why people like teams in general, its not a matter of being the best, its based on something whitin you just cant understand, you dont like teams for being good or bad, you like then for what they represent for you or maybe you do like them because they won a TI, and thats ok too but not everyone

Maybe SingSing with his stream was your first approach to Dota 2, maybe Bulba personality or maybe you like them because you and do and thats it !

Its just like in soccer/football where your dad took you to the city team games even though they were awful and in the third division

You are trying to find a reason where theres no reason at all, try to understand why people like things and you will lose your head

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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